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What's Next For Manny Pacquiao? - 60 Minutes - CBS News
Nothing new here but with such a main stream news show I have to wonder how much it will affect the PPV numbers. In the interview before Pacquiao with Obama, Obama said he felt 60 minutes was better to reach Americans than calling a press conference.
I am going to make the brazen prediction that it will increase the numbers of people who purchase the PPV.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
But how many PPV's a boxer can sell isn't for me what boxing is all about. That kind of number crunching is more for the accountants of the fighters than fight fans themselves. I find it sad when Floyd fans waffle on about him being the 'PPV man' when all it does is make him more money and give him more excuses not to take on the meaningful fights.
Pac/Margarito might well be a very fun scrap, but Margarito after the hand wraps should not really have been able to jump the queue so quickly. It's all scumbag Arum's doing. The numbers are really irrelevant to me.
Never buy Manny's gentle friendly smile right before the fight.
Well.. I mostly disagree that boxing is not about the PPV numbers. "Prize fighting" or "professional boxing" is about making money. It may not be the only thing that motives a professional fighter, but the ultimate goal for most fighters is to make it "big".Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI am going to make the brazen prediction that it will increase the numbers of people who purchase the PPV.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
But how many PPV's a boxer can sell isn't for me what boxing is all about. That kind of number crunching is more for the accountants of the fighters than fight fans themselves. I find it sad when Floyd fans waffle on about him being the 'PPV man' when all it does is make him more money and give him more excuses not to take on the meaningful fights.
Pac/Margarito might well be a very fun scrap, but Margarito after the hand wraps should not really have been able to jump the queue so quickly. It's all scumbag Arum's doing. The numbers are really irrelevant to me.
I have mentioned it before that having the P4P title may only be hypothetical but it does carry tangible value. The more visible a fight, the bigger the prize. I believe that fighters like Shane Mosley or Hatton would take less money for a chance to have that P4P title. But I don't know if that eagerness they display is really just to have bragging rights, to have the bigger payday or both? At this point in Pacquiao's career, I doubt he'll step in the ring without the money motivation. We all know that Mayweather ain't stepping into the ring without the money being there. If Pacquiao loses to Margarito, I doubt Mayweather will come to the table. (He'll just say, I beat Mosley and Mosley beat Margarito) If Pacquiao beats Margarito and the PPV numbers are really big. Mayweather will let people say he is a genius for allowing the a fight between him and Pacquiao to be hyped even further. It is also the measuring stick being used to deturmine how popular the sport is. Like it or not PPV numbers are a part of the boxing game.
There just is no way to make boxing a sport based purely on the sweet science.
I have no clue how much 60 minutes will affect the numbers. 1 week before the fight? makes it look like it was marketed by Top Rank or Jerry Jones, the same way Pacquiao's appearance on Jimmy Kimmel show or GBP news infomercial on Mayweather. It's a page right out of the movie industry and book peddler's hand books. If the numbers end up being substantially bigger than Pac/Cotto, It's a pretty good bet that the 60 minutes appearance made a big contribution.
I think this fight is going to be a tougher fight for Pacquiao than the betting odds, because he appears to have less motivation than his previous efforts. Couple that with all the conditioning hype said about Margarito, it makes it look like Pacquiao is going to get smashed. I do agree that Margarito should be rewarded for his part in the hand wraps. So I hope the conditioning talk is all part of the hype and Margarito gets knocked out.
If a fan is going to be obsessed with PPV figures, then I think they have their priorities all wrong. Sure it matters to the fighter and their promotion team, but I have never understood your average boxing fan really being concerned with such a thing.
As a boxing fan, I don't think that should be the motivation. I just want to see a good scrap next weekend, I couldn't care less how many are buying it.
I just find it gay the way fanboys of certain fighters will get into ridiculous debates like "my fighter sold X amount of PPV's against Y fighter, whilst your fighter could only get X number of PPV's against Y fighter therefore my fighter should get Z more money!". Those kinds of arguments are incredibly gay and only fanboys could really go deeply into that kind of thing. Why do we care about the fighters potential split in a purse? Do they as fanboys somehow recieve a part of this oh so significant split when all said and done? It makes no sense to me. I for one watch boxing because I want to see great fights. Purses and PPV numbers are just an annoying distraction. For sure boxing is about making money, but you get selfish pricks like Floyd Mayweather as a consequence. Fighters can make money, but there is no need to deprive the public of quality matchups because the numbers have gone to your head. A real fan cares about the fights and a real fighter cares about his legacy (and bank balance). Only fanboys, promoters and egotistical fighters discuss PPV figures and justify avoiding the best fights.
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Originally Posted by miles
I agree with you on that. That's why I'm beginning to love UFC.:cool:
GTFO. :confused: Really? :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
I agree with you on that. That's why I'm beginning to love UFC.:cool:
yup. the past months I was away from Saddo got me addicted to UFC. LOL.:cool:
who would not want UFC? It's bloodier, it's more exciting and people fight anybody. No long negotiations. They fight for the right to be called the best. try to watch it sometime and you'll know what i mean. I've particularly liked GSP.
Ya but anyone can bloody up someone when there wearing 4 ounce gloves on. making someone bleed with 8 or 10 ounce gloves on takes alot more skill. you do make a good point tho. I think alot of boxing promoters can learn a thing or two from UFCQuote:
Originally Posted by brucelee