LWW division: Strongest in boxing today
I was looking at what a (non)fighter Miguel Cotto has turned into. He is clearly cashing in his last few fights and biding his time. He used to be as fearless a competitor as any trainer could hope for and willing to fight anybody. He did not like long layoffs out of the gym. He had an iron jaw, great left hook to the body and true boxing ability when he need to conserve. He was never bothered by being knocked down, bloodied, bruised or all around battered. He could muster up eye blinking stoppages and spoil light punchers game plans. Miguel Cotto has brought us some of the best fights in the last decade time and again.
How would Cotto fare against the top tier LWWs today? Basically, rewind the clock 7 years:
Bradley
Alexander
Khan
Maidana (I am beginning to drool just thinking of these two guys in the ring)
Kotelnik
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I think he pretty much cruises past all those guys...maybe if Khan or Alexander were able to use solid defense they may bother him, but at 140 Cotto was breaking dudes' faces. He stopped Gianalucca Branco with a punch to the shoulder!!!!
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Cotto only started looking vulnerable at 140 once he started having problems making weight, which was basically around the time of his fight against Corley, if you look at the weigh in pic to that fight he looks borderline dead, IMO he would have still beaten most of the fighters at 140 today, and IMO he would have walked right through Hatton
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i agree. cotto was a beat at jr. welterweight when he was not having weight problems. the only boxer out of this group who i think could give cotto problems early on is timothy bradley. but i think in the middle rounds, cotto would start to impose his strength and have bradley reeling in the later rounds. other than that, i see cotto dominating everybody else.
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
i agree. cotto was a beat at jr. welterweight when he was not having weight problems. the only boxer out of this group who i think could give cotto problems early on is timothy bradley. but i think in the middle rounds, cotto would start to impose his strength and have bradley reeling in the later rounds. other than that, i see cotto dominating everybody else.
if Khan would use his height and reach i could see him controlling the fight early on for the first 3 or 4 rounds, then Cotto would start to come on and wear down the body, and you know damned well Khan wouldn't stand up to Cotto's best shot
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paddy448
I think out of all of them, khan (because of his speed) gives cotto the most trouble , but even then I see cotto adjusting and taking over in the later rounds. Madaina should get outboxed, Not sure on bradley, Ill have to think about that one. I see Alexander being outthought and outfought.
These guys might go on and achieve great things so my opinion may change, but as it stands this is what I think
and even given Khan's speed Cotto's timing especially when he was at 140 was spot on, so like i said Khan probably would have had early success then Cotto would start to time him and break him down to the body, eventually getting the stoppage
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morales,
definitely! i think amir khan is an overrated hype job and cotto would have had him running the whole time and destroyed him in the later rounds. at 140, cotto was an animal with great strength and power. only until he started having trouble making 140 was he getting a little vulnerable but otherwise, no 140er today could have been able to touch him.
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140 is deep, but 154, IMO has the best match up possibilites
1. Miguel Cotto
2. Sergei Dzinziruk
3. Alfredo Angulo
4. Antonio Margarito
5. Kermit Cintron
6. Cornelius Bundradge
7. Yuri Foreman
8. Vanes
9. James Kirkland
10. Paul Williams
11. Martinez
12. Mora
13. Saul Alvarez
14. JCC Jr
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I think Cotto and Hatton beats them at their best but these fighters have not peaked yet.
I also think Hatton could have beaten Cotto just about the time Cotto beat Paulie at LWW.
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154 is the best division today. And Cotto sits on top but IMO, can only beat maybe 2 of the top 14 listed above. Foreman and Margarito. Jcc Jr, I'm not sure of cause I haven't watch any of Jcc Jr's fights.
Right now Alvarez would be a war for Cotto!!!
BTW, who is Cotto going to fight next?
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I think Cotto takes them all. But we don't know how Alexander, Khan and Bradley will develop.
I think Khan takes any version of Hatton. As does Cotto.
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although i believe jr. welterweight is a good division, i think there are much better divisions starting with the:
1. LIGHTWEIGHTS -...............1a. FEATHERWEIGHTS
juan manuel marquez................juanma lopez
robert guerrero.........................hozumi hasegawa
humberto soto...........................yuriorkis gamboa
miguel vazquez..........................rafael marquez
miguel acosta............................daniel ponce de leon
jorge linares............................. elio rojas
brandon rios..............................celestino caballero
michael katsidis.........................jhonny gonzalez
juan diaz...................................chris john
ali funeka..................................miguel angel garcia
antonio de marco.......................jhonny gonzalez
urbano antillon...........................steven luevano
vicente escobedo........................juan carlos burgos
john murray...............................bernabe concepcion
mercito gesta.............................daud cino yordan
lenny zappavigna
3. BANTAMWEIGHTS................4. SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHTS
fernando montiel.........................lucian bute
vic darchinyan.............................andre ward
abner mares...............................carl froch
anselmo moreno.........................mikkel kessler
nonito donaire.............................arthur abraham
yonnhy perez...............................andre dirrell
koki kameda................................librado andrade
eric morel...................................robert stieglitz
jorge arce...................................glenn johnson
william gonzalez..........................kelly pavlik
i think the minimumweights, jr. flyweights, super feathers, welterweights, jr. middleweights, cruiserweights and heavyweights are weak divisions. i based this list on overall debt of divisions.