Still question marks over khans chin????
I say yes there is question marks over his chin he was out on his feet for the last 3 rounds really and there were times had it been over here Khan couldve been stopped by ref Khan showed great heart to get through it. But had Maidana had the skills and energy to get another clean shot through Amir would have been ko'd Amir walked back to his corner for the last 3 rounds like he was drunk and he didn't really spring back in to life till the clapper for last 10 secs of the 12th. Amir ran to survive and Joe Cortez did him some favours putting distance between them on the breaks but as i say Amir did show great heart and the fight was very good from both but Amir still has a very dodgy chin and to be talking Mayweather is crazy and i wouldn't be thinking Alexander vs bradley winner either yet
Re: Still question marks over khans chin????
Well yes and no. It's hardly a question mark, I mean we know his chin ain't great. He showed he could hang with a puncher though and has the heart to survive, but you definitely wouldn't bank on him to make it through every time.
That fight massively enhanced his reputation for toughness though. Most people thought he would win by staying behind his jab and not getting hit. But that's not how it went down. He got tagged over and over and despite looking like about a gazelle in a river with a crocodile towards the end of the fight he managed to somehow hang in there.
It was like watching Frank Bruno's win over Oliver McCall, I was just willing him to stand up.
He has world class skills, I honestly think he outboxes every fighter in the world apart from Floyd, and even Floyd struggles, but he's too defensively vulnerable and would get picked apart by the best boxer punchers in the sport.
I could see him fighting Floyd and amazing everyone by being ahead on the scorecards after 8 rounds or so. I just can't see him standing up until the end.
I love his heart though, the kid gives absolutely everything, and he's British so we us Brits should get 100 percent behind him.
Re: Still question marks over khans chin????
Khan does have skills, his handspeed is great and he puts his combinations together well, but that chin is the big achilles heel. But perhaps it isn't quite as bad as what Prescott made us think. Fair play to him though, he did take a lot of hard flush shots, but I think had Cortez not kept jumping in and had Maidana given himself a little room, then Khan would have been out of there. He saw it through and even cynical old me has to give him credit for hanging in there. He really was all over the place though.
Re: Still question marks over khans chin????
He's always going to be vulnerable. I don't ever see him getting starched like he did against Prescott again, but I do expect him to get KO'd again at some point. He took some good shots from Maidana before he got badly hurt, and then he showed great heart and determination to stay on his feet. Maidana was too sloppy and seemed too tired to be able to land another killer shot when he had him hurt. What would be a concern for me is that he spent best part of the next 2 rounds in survival mode after getting hurt, it didn't show great ability to recover from the big shots.
He's clearly got the ability to hang with any boxer in the world, but he'll always be susceptible to a knockout. His defence is still shaky, he's not the hardest fighter to hit, and I do see him coming unstuck against the Bradley/Alexander winner. He's just fought the hardest puncher at his weight class and came through it with the win, so he deserves huge credit for seeing it through
Re: Still question marks over khans chin????
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0james0
Mayweather got all shook up by one shot from Mosley, one shot that didn't seem as bad as any one of the shots Khan took.
Yet from that fight Mayweather gained a reputation as having an awesome chin.
Not saying Khan would beat PBF, but for chin comparison.
Khan was out of it for 3 rounds mayweather was hurt for seconds lol
Re: Still question marks over khans chin????
Bambi on ice springs to mind.
It's hard to say. Maybe his punch resistance is a little better now he isn't struggling at the weight.
Few things though;
When he was ko'd by Prescott Khan was actually fasting. Bad idea.
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When Khan has been hurt in the past it's pretty much always been with shots which have landed high on the head, and not actually on his chin.
The problem is, everyone knows about his vulnerability, so when he takes a clean shot, the opponent is going to rush him. At the best of times, Khan can look clumsy when going backwards, so when he is doing it when he is tired, after being tagged, he will look all over the place.
The fight proved to me what i already know (and what others disagree with). Marquez at 140 would be a nightmare for Khan at this point in time. Far too accurate.
Re: Still question marks over khans chin????
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Originally Posted by
ono
Bambi on ice springs to mind.
It's hard to say. Maybe his punch resistance is a little better now he isn't struggling at the weight.
Few things though;
When he was ko'd by Prescott Khan was actually fasting. Bad idea.
and
When Khan has been hurt in the past it's pretty much always been with shots which have landed high on the head, and not actually on his chin.
The problem is, everyone knows about his vulnerability, so when he takes a clean shot, the opponent is going to rush him. At the best of times, Khan can look clumsy when going backwards, so when he is doing it when he is tired, after being tagged, he will look all over the place.
The fight proved to me what i already know (and what others disagree with). Marquez at 140 would be a nightmare for Khan at this point in time. Far too accurate.
I think Marquez vs Khan is a great great matchup. I actually think Khan dominates him early, but then struggles late. I'd pick him to beat Marquez at this stage though, I actually think he'd win a lopside decision but with many shaky moments.
Re: Still question marks over khans chin????
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Originally Posted by
ono
Bambi on ice springs to mind.
It's hard to say. Maybe his punch resistance is a little better now he isn't struggling at the weight.
Few things though;
When he was ko'd by Prescott Khan was actually fasting. Bad idea.
and
When Khan has been hurt in the past it's pretty much always been with shots which have landed high on the head, and not actually on his chin.
The problem is, everyone knows about his vulnerability, so when he takes a clean shot, the opponent is going to rush him. At the best of times, Khan can look clumsy when going backwards, so when he is doing it when he is tired, after being tagged, he will look all over the place.
The fight proved to me what i already know (and what others disagree with). Marquez at 140 would be a nightmare for Khan at this point in time. Far too accurate.
I agree with this. I don't think Marquez is as bad above 135 as has been made out and he'd be a tough match for any of the 140 lbers. Khan is very hittable and Marquez would be able to land at will. He might struggle early with Khan's speed and combinations, but he'd soon start to time him and land regularly. I don't think Khan gets stopped in the way he did against Prescott again as he won't make the same mistakes in preparation, but he's always going to be vulnerable. He's got the skills, he just needs to improve his defence a bit more so he doesn't panic when he's hurt.
Re: Still question marks over khans chin????
His chin is still the same. But his defense difinitely improved.
Watching the fight again, it seems to me that there were a lot of opportunities that he could have countered Maidana with bombs. But he was more concentrating of not being hit clean in the chin. It's hard to exchange fires while both guards up with chin tucked real tight, circling the ring, and punching backwards.
He did what he had to do against one of the p4p best puncher in the world. Great strategy I must say.
