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Why is it that there are all these articles about some boxers using PEDS? And nothing is being said about Hopkins. How is it that a 44 Year old Hopkins has no stamina against and Old Jones and Has the stamina of a 25 Year old against a 29 year old Pascal and still looked fresh at the end of the fight?
Hopkins has never refused testing maybe? Its not like he is a high volume boxer. He fought at his pace that whole fight. Quit hating basically.
No hating here, just he didn't have that kind of stamina against Jones and at the end of the fight he was exhausted. Jones thew nothing at Hopkins to slow him down. Yet against Pascual he is vibrant at the end of the fight. Explain it!
He also looked sluggish against Calzaghe, towards the end of the fight. Calzaghe did bodywork, Pascal did very little. The RJJ fight he pretty much was in control throughout, how do you know he was exhausted? He didnt exactly collapse after the fight. That fight was really kind of slow action wise, maybe he was just playing up like he tried harder than he actually did.
Did you get this idea from the Michael Marley article?
Double Standard? Hopkins Praised, Pacquiao Smeared - Boxing News
He did train with Roach. Maybe Roach gave him some special stuff. BTW, FLoyd Sr. and the Mayweather clan are now saying Amir Khan is on something too, because he took Maidana's power.
I am not suggesting he is juiced, but I have to say that I find it really odd how in some fights he seems like and old man who has nothing left and then suddenly in his next fight he is like a 22 year old again
Hopkins is experienced and slows the pace down to his level. Also he has kept in good condition so that should explain it. Also he should retire on a high.
B-Hop's workrate wasn't that good, he was still only throwing one punch at a time mostly. And he actually threw less in the Jean Pascal fight, than he did in 2nd RJJ fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Compare that to the young B-Hop who was an animal, often throwing alot of punches and KO'ing opponents brutally.
And it's clear as day he's just one of those dedicated guys, who keeps himself in shape all year round. I've seen most of B-Hop's fights and i can't remember him ever being out of shape.
Can speculate all day but Hopkins has preserved himself like no other fighter in history. Defines the term "keep your powder dry". Against Pascal he was fighting vs a real viable threat who dumped him on his azz for title and history.....vs Jones he was fighting the ghost of a great for money. His intro music spoke volumes last month, singing I did it my way in his own words.
i've never seen Hopkins out of shape period, the dude is a gym rat, and he's FULLY dedicated to boxing, meaning he's not juggling like 5 professions at a time and then performing the way he does like PacquiaoQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBB-Hop's workrate wasn't that good, he was still only throwing one punch at a time mostly. And he actually threw less in the Jean Pascal fight, than he did in 2nd RJJ fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Compare that to the young B-Hop who was an animal, often throwing alot of punches and KO'ing opponents brutally.
And it's clear as day he's just one of those dedicated guys, who keeps himself in shape all year round. I've seen most of B-Hop's fights and i can't remember him ever being out of shape.
You know, on this one, I thought Pascals output got that low that at arond 5 or 6 I was thinking that there must be something wrong with him or his shoulder or somethin and i was surprised that wasn't mentioned by the fight commentators. For someone on top of his game and relatively young like Pascal, his output was unbelieveably low. That definitely helped Hopkins appear to have a decent output, when really he didn't.
I read the Marley article a few days ago and thought it was complete rubbish. Hopkins takes great care of himself, he walks around close to his fighting weight and always turns up in great condition. The reason he didn't look sluggish or tire against Pascal is because almost nothing was coming back at him - Pascal's work rate was awful and Hopkins controlled the fight and was allowed to fight at his own pace.
Hopkins just knows ring smarts and how to frustrate guys into fighting at his pace his style...He has short burst during the rounds that in truth any pro fighter retired or not who has kept up with their physical health shoulb be able to....When was the last time you seen Hopkins go to war?....
Hopkins in truth is a big part of what is bad about boxing....He uses his position with promoters to gain fights he really does not deserve and when things don't go his way during fights he causes havoc with tantrums excuses then fouls the shit out of guys...
People credit him for still being active and fighting the guys he is at his age but Archie Moore did it til around then Foreman did it til around then and they eithere won or lost with dignity Hopkins just acts like trash and acts as if the whole world is against him.....At one time Hopkins was a great fighter who only hurt himself with the way he negotiated now he is just an outright joke...
45 years old Daxx. Come on. With no long pause of retirement and certainly not the string of grocery clerks and part time stunt men a Foreman faced early comeback. To be linked with a Foreman and Moore really ain't a bad when you look at it?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Fact is Hopkins has always been his own worst enemy with promotions and as stubborn as they come in early career. Think the problem is him actually being a business partner in promotions just as I hated it when Oscar was playing duel roles. None the less his mouth and tactics aside...the man fought a very savvy and top notch fight all things considered. People cant act as if Pascal was just a no-show and 'choose' to lay low and hold back. Hopkins very much had a say in the matter, broke him down and decided terms. Give the devil his due...he put on a superb fight.
Dont get me wrong jst the fact he is able to at his age is something special but my point really was that unless Hopkins is getting his way he acts disgraceful....Suck it up man this is boxing you have been a MW champion for 11 yrs abt and you held a LHW title, fought top names and beat them but now a days he just acts dispicable....He is a man who the more time goes by he loses moral in the sport....My thing and mentioning Foreman was that George did not cry and complain when he lost in his comeback....All he kept saying after the Pascal fight was abt his age OK we GET IT BERNARD!!!! but no he kept going on and on...Yet in fights where things are nbot going his way he uses antics during the fight that is reserved for 2 bit club fighters....At least he used to keep his stupidness for comments after, before or during negotiations.....And like y I brought up Moore....because Hopkins acts like he was the ONLY person to have ever been in big fights past his 40th....Did he forget those guys?...Then again Hopkins thinks all that matters is himself....In truth without GBP he would not be in these big fights........I just in truth do not like him anymore if you want to act like an ass then that is your issue but don't act like an ass crying abt spilled milk always....Hopkins has gotten some of his own breaks over the years judging wise but you never hear him talk about those.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli45 years old Daxx. Come on. With no long pause of retirement and certainly not the string of grocery clerks and part time stunt men a Foreman faced early comeback. To be linked with a Foreman and Moore really ain't a bad when you look at it?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Fact is Hopkins has always been his own worst enemy with promotions and as stubborn as they come in early career. Think the problem is him actually being a business partner in promotions just as I hated it when Oscar was playing duel roles. None the less his mouth and tactics aside...the man fought a very savvy and top notch fight all things considered. People cant act as if Pascal was just a no-show and 'choose' to lay low and hold back. Hopkins very much had a say in the matter, broke him down and decided terms. Give the devil his due...he put on a superb fight.
He is not the first to act this way and he will not be the last but he just happens to be one of the ones active at the moment.....