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Right so I'm watching Ringside Rivalries on ESPN and just watched the fight where Dempsey loses to Tunney (spoilers ?!?!? :confused:) for first time.
It says Dempsey hadn't fought for 3 years before the fight. I'm like wtf ?!?!? Lazy get. This guy makes David Haye look over bastard active !!
I know quite a bit about the past era in boxing eg who beat who etc.. kind of records people had BUT I never knew this before tonight.
Lazy arse get :rolleyes:
you do know he had exhibitions, made movies, and traveling all over the place in those 3 years right? and at least when he finally came to defend his title he did it against a great fighter in Tunney not like Haye who's only defenses have been an old used up Ruiz and a never was Harrison :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Also they actually had a hard time getting anyone to fight Jack....I mean this guy really scared the shit out of peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyou do know he had exhibitions, made movies, and traveling all over the place in those 3 years right? and at least when he finally came to defend his title he did it against a great fighter in Tunney not like Haye who's only defenses have been an old used up Ruiz and a never was Harrison :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
read that he used to chew on leather to strengthen up his jaw lol, crazy shit, and i wouldn't doubt people were scared of him after the way he ko'd WillardQuote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnAlso they actually had a hard time getting anyone to fight Jack....I mean this guy really scared the shit out of peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyou do know he had exhibitions, made movies, and traveling all over the place in those 3 years right? and at least when he finally came to defend his title he did it against a great fighter in Tunney not like Haye who's only defenses have been an old used up Ruiz and a never was Harrison :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Dempsey was also a draft dodger (it was a big scandal at the time)..... I wonder what would have happened if Harry Greb lived to maybe fight as a heavyweight. Dempsey-Greb would have been a brawl.
Dempsey was not a draft dodger. He was acquitted in court when it came to light that his first wife had made the accusations when he refused to give her more money after their divorce. Dempsey was originally given anexemption from the draft as he was the sole provider for his wife, his parents, and his sisters. After their divorce his wife claimed he had never supported her, which was disproved. Also, it was shown that he had, in fact, volunteered to enlist in the navy (i believe it was) but that the war ended before his application was processed.
But he did serve in World War II and after a stint as a phys ed instructor he actually saw combat at almost 50 years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Also there is no doubt in my mind Dempsey used illegal wraps/horse shoe/something illegal in his fight with Willard. He did a lot of permanent facial damage to Willard in that fight. Absolutely disgusting.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
AND before he became famous Dempsey used to pimp out his wife to other men to have sex with for money. Desperate times call for desperate measures but still thats pretty screwed up.
Dempsey was an animal and quite a fighter, but he was not the best person. Far from it. Kind of a scum bag.
yes i know about the movies exhibitions and travelling.
was a bit tipsy last night when i wrote this. Wasnt really having a go at Dempsey directly just amazed that the set up at the time meant he didn't have to defend for 3 years.
Different times I know but come on 3 years !
There's a lot of thing you can read up on Dempsey's career which make you wonder exactly why he was rated so highly. I gotta be honest, I never ever consider him when I think of Great Heavyweight Fighters, Boxers or even Champions.
yeah know what you mean I don't either - but recognize that foe his era he was a monsterQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
No he was not a dodger but there was that scandal where he was supposed to be working with the common man donned a pair pf over alls grabbed a sledgehamme etc...then people realized the shiny top class dress shoes he was wearing in the picture!!Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Also the fact that he would not face any black boxer did not help.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnAlso they actually had a hard time getting anyone to fight Jack....I mean this guy really scared the shit out of peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyou do know he had exhibitions, made movies, and traveling all over the place in those 3 years right? and at least when he finally came to defend his title he did it against a great fighter in Tunney not like Haye who's only defenses have been an old used up Ruiz and a never was Harrison :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Willard who held the title before jack was very inactive as well.
Very true...Quote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaAlso the fact that he would not face any black boxer did not help.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnAlso they actually had a hard time getting anyone to fight Jack....I mean this guy really scared the shit out of peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyou do know he had exhibitions, made movies, and traveling all over the place in those 3 years right? and at least when he finally came to defend his title he did it against a great fighter in Tunney not like Haye who's only defenses have been an old used up Ruiz and a never was Harrison :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Willard who held the title before jack was very inactive as well.
He also only fought 10 round heavyweight championship bouts, scandalous.