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most of you feel like pac mans performance against shane was better because he scored a knockdown, and maywaether got caught, so were seriously just taking ten seconds out of each fight and coparing them? truth is it was a 12 round fight for both guys, and i feel as though maywaethers performance was much more dominnat, at least it seemed so, but ill agree and say...pacqiou mayweather BETTER happen or both these guys lose me as fan.
It seems to me that outside of the first half of the second round of PBF/Shane. PBF was able to execute his gameplan better than Manny was against Shane. That being said people will remember the KD from Manny more that anything Mayweather did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
Mayweather was much more impressive. I don't understand how anyone can even see it differently.
i agree, although i felt Mayweather seemed more dominant due to the fact that he shook his usual counter punching style and walked Mosley down landing at will, but neither guy really out did the other, and IMO both could have stopped Shane if they would have stepped on the gas, not really due to how good they are more so to how passed it Mosley isQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepIt seems to me that outside of the first half of the second round of PBF/Shane. PBF was able to execute his gameplan better than Manny was against Shane. That being said people will remember the KD from Manny more that anything Mayweather did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
Mayweather-Pacquiao won't happen it's going to be 3 years since the Pac-Oscar fight and we're still talking about them having a potential matchup. That fight has long passed imo. It's time to move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
i think the reason they didnt step on the gas is the fear of his punching powerQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi agree, although i felt Mayweather seemed more dominant due to the fact that he shook his usual counter punching style and walked Mosley down landing at will, but neither guy really out did the other, and IMO both could have stopped Shane if they would have stepped on the gas, not really due to how good they are more so to how passed it Mosley isQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepIt seems to me that outside of the first half of the second round of PBF/Shane. PBF was able to execute his gameplan better than Manny was against Shane. That being said people will remember the KD from Manny more that anything Mayweather did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
You know unfortunately, you maybe right, well get this fight when their both past their primesQuote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogMayweather-Pacquiao won't happen it's going to be 3 years since the Pac-Oscar fight and we're still talking about them having a potential matchup. That fight has long passed imo. It's time to move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
not much to fear when he's not throwing back, or when all he's throwing is telegraphed punches, either way i think everyone can agree that Mosley only made it out of both fights cause his opponent didn't try to get the ko that was there for the takingQuote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4lifei think the reason they didnt step on the gas is the fear of his punching powerQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi agree, although i felt Mayweather seemed more dominant due to the fact that he shook his usual counter punching style and walked Mosley down landing at will, but neither guy really out did the other, and IMO both could have stopped Shane if they would have stepped on the gas, not really due to how good they are more so to how passed it Mosley isQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepIt seems to me that outside of the first half of the second round of PBF/Shane. PBF was able to execute his gameplan better than Manny was against Shane. That being said people will remember the KD from Manny more that anything Mayweather did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
Mayweather will be Manny's toughest fight because he has the hand speed, body speed and foot speed. Mayweather proved in his last few fights that when he actually comes to fight, he is a very dangerous and exciting fighter. The problem is most of the time Mayweather just wants to potshot. If Manny beat Mayweather i would be amazed. I would then be become a pac fanboy and worship him as my boxing god.
I know that its not the be all and end all but Mosley has said Pac is the better fighter of the two.
I think Pac would win a decision v Mayweather this moment in time if the fight was made in the next six months.
I think trying to use third party outcomes as a measure for how two men will do against one another is problematic in several ways
1) Styles make fights
2) A win is a win, a KO isn't really any more valuable than a UD than a SD
3) The fighter who is the third party isn't likely the same guy from fight to fight
I wouldn't go any further than to say Manny and Floyd both had clear victories over a shot Shane Mosely.
Shane had Floyd hurt and Pac had Shane hurt. I think everybody can agree that Pac wasn't 100% against Mosley. If Pac was 100% and he didnt treat Mosley so kindly Pac would k.o Mosley.
That being said, nobody can really say what will happen if Pac vs Floyd happens.
They both have wins over Hatton, Oscar, JMM and now Mosley. Even though Floyd defeated JMM more convincingly Pac has beaten up their common opponents much more. Although if Pac and JMM fought now Pac would likely beat JMM even more convincingly than Floyd did at welterweight.