You can not use Manny/Shane as proof of how Manny/PBF will go
I don't understand how everyone is doing this I mean really? People act as if Manny had al;l he could handle against Mosley yet he won in dominate fashion...We just did not see the all out attacking style we are used to with Manny...
Mosley is a fighter hard to look good against....To say PBF would beat Manny because Manny did not stop Mosley is like saying Manny will for certain KO PBF because Mosley hurt PBF and Manny dropped Mosley....Just makes no sense
Lets see Floyd actually fight ANYONE before his name is even brought into the circle...For right now both men went 12 with Mosley...For as shot as we label Shane truth is in 12 months he went the distance with the 2 fighters the world rates as P4P #1 and #2....
If anything it is a feather in the cap of Shane for doing so rather then detraction from either Floyd or Manny.....
Re: You can not use Manny/Shane as proof of how Manny/PBF will go
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DaxxKahn
I don't understand how everyone is doing this I mean really? People act as if Manny had al;l he could handle against Mosley yet he won in dominate fashion...We just did not see the all out attacking style we are used to with Manny...
Mosley is a fighter hard to look good against....To say PBF would beat Manny because Manny did not stop Mosley is like saying Manny will for certain KO PBF because Mosley hurt PBF and Manny dropped Mosley....Just makes no sense
Lets see Floyd actually fight ANYONE before his name is even brought into the circle...For right now both men went 12 with Mosley...For as shot as we label Shane truth is in 12 months he went the distance with the 2 fighters the world rates as P4P #1 and #2....
If anything it is a feather in the cap of Shane for doing so rather then detraction from either Floyd or Manny.....
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Re: You can not use Manny/Shane as proof of how Manny/PBF will go
I agree with the fact that the 2 fights are completely different and the comparison to a potential PBF fight is pointless, however (and much as I like Manny and dislike Floyd) I still maintain the opionion I have always had that Floyd will beat Manny if they ever fight.
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I agree with the fact that the 2 fights are completely different and the comparison to a potential PBF fight is pointless, however (and much as I like Manny and dislike Floyd) I still maintain the opinion I have always had that Floyd will beat Manny if they ever fight.
In truth I really can not pick a winner...I look at it like this..
Manny has never face a fighter who can counter like Floyd I mean the guy just knows how to read an opponent..on the other hand...
Floyd has never faced a fighter as fast or who hits as hard with the pace Manny can keep up...Plus Manny is getting better defenseively....
I will PROMISE this IF and WHEN the fight does happen it will be a disapointment for us all....There will not be the action we expect or the counter punching we expect to see
There has just been tooo much build up for the fight to ever live up to its hype...I mean it would have to be Ali/Frazier 1, SRR/Hearns 1 and the Gatti/Ward trilogy all wrapped in one just tpo break even on expectations that how hyped up it has been..almost impossible to live up to
Re: You can not use Manny/Shane as proof of how Manny/PBF will go
agreed! as a "pactard" i can't help but be impressed by a naturally smaller man inflicting more damage.
Re: You can not use Manny/Shane as proof of how Manny/PBF will go
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DaxxKahn
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BIG H
I agree with the fact that the 2 fights are completely different and the comparison to a potential PBF fight is pointless, however (and much as I like Manny and dislike Floyd) I still maintain the opinion I have always had that Floyd will beat Manny if they ever fight.
In truth I really can not pick a winner...I look at it like this..
Manny has never face a fighter who can counter like Floyd I mean the guy just knows how to read an opponent..on the other hand...
Floyd has never faced a fighter as fast or who hits as hard with the pace Manny can keep up...Plus Manny is getting better defenseively....
I will PROMISE this IF and WHEN the fight does happen it will be a disapointment for us all....There will not be the action we expect or the counter punching we expect to see
There has just been tooo much build up for the fight to ever live up to its hype...I mean it would have to be Ali/Frazier 1, SRR/Hearns 1 and the Gatti/Ward trilogy all wrapped in one just tpo break even on expectations that how hyped up it has been..almost impossible to live up to
First I'd like to say I completely agree with you. That fight kinda hurt.
Re: You can not use Manny/Shane as proof of how Manny/PBF will go
People say all types of crap. People said animal kingdom couldn't win the Kentucky Derby because he never ran on a dirt track before. Sports are up and down, just because you performed well one time doesn't mean you're going to do it the next time. Mayweather will be Manny's ultimate test.
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Mosley showed absolutely no boxing IQ. Cotto, who is more chinny had more success boxing Manny.
You're exaggerating a bit mate. :)
Re: You can not use Manny/Shane as proof of how Manny/PBF will go
We've been doing this for years, not going to stop now. haha Judging by last nights fight Manny knocks Floyd down a few times, but gets outboxed a little bit making the fight closer, but wins a close decision. Fact!
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You can not use Manny/Shane as proof of how Manny/PBF will go
Who would?
Shane has no jab. Floyd has the best in the business. Shane lost his right hand by moving to his right. Floyd wont do that and has the best short right counter in boxing. A perfect southpaw counter. Shane stands straight up. Floyd fights like a Burley or Langford with that Philly shell. Shane cant fight on the back foot. Floyd if he needs to, is the best fighter on the planet off the back foot.
Floyd does everything great that Manny has issues with.
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Idiots will try and say that because Floyd couldn't knock Shane down... but manny could that this automatically means that manny is better.
That is a lot like saying that because Mosley stopped Margarito and knocked him down several times... whilst Margarito lasted the distance with Manny... that Shane is better than manny... obviously last night showed that this is not the case.
What I think it shows is that Manny is better fighting guys who are there, when they're on their bike he is not at his best. I think Floyd would capitalize on this and soften Manny up with some potshots... it'd be the typical Floyd... spending 3-4 rounds figuring a guy out and then pretty much shutting them out from there, Manny's phenomenal athleticism gives him a decent shout but I think Floyd handles him... too big a boxing brain.
Re: You can not use Manny/Shane as proof of how Manny/PBF will go
I agree Daxx, the fights with Shane only adds to both Pac and Floyds ring reputation. It does not prove what could happen in a Pac vs Floyd fight. Mosley isn't even the only fighter both Pac and Floyd have fought. Oscar, Hatton and JMM are the other three.
Like I said the Shane fight only adds on to Pacs and Floyds ring reputation but we already know Pac and Floyd individually. Pac has speed and power Floyd has great defense and counters.
As for the comment about the fight not living up to the hype. I think the number 1 reason everyone wants to see the fight isn't the fight itself, it is the result that we all want to see. It could be boring but having a result at the end satisfies us.
