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In a time when we question everyone about PED's, Pacqauio, Mosley, Hopkins, we don't think about past fighters having freakish physiques.
Personally, I think Bruno had a tremendous natural build and did not need to take steroids.
Still, when he fought Tyson the second time, he was 6'3" 247 lbs of muscle. :o
Thoughts ?
I think that it´s impossible to compeat at such level and not taking some PED´s. It is not all about muscle size or strenght, but recovery! How do you think it´s possible to train 4 times per day for so long and not overtraining?
Bruno is a gym rat. He is still in the gym at 06:30 every morning even now at 49 years old and is absolutely ripped. I'd be hugely surprised if he ever took anything.
This. It's like asking questions over how 5'10 Mike Tyson could be 225lbs of pure muscle. Bruno had good power, but his shocking stamina indicates he could've done with some extra helpQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Gym rats make up the majority of steroid users FACT. Not saying he was but if hes 49 and still pretty muscular than there is a big chance hes on the gear. Once you get that old your test levels start to drop and it makes keeping muscle and building muslce extremely hard. I know some guys who are 55 and still quite muscular...and they are on the gear and quite knowledgeable when it comes to bodybuilding so I would think if they could do it without the gear they would.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
His stamina wouldnt of been helped by the muscle. When you have that much muscle on you it takes a whole lot more oxygen to keep you going. Its why you see guys like Todd Duffee, Shane Carwin, Bobby Lashley having trouble lasting a couple of round in the UFC coz they have so much muscle and its hard for them to keep the oxygen flowing. I know myself (im 96kilos and 13% bodyfat) that my cardio went down when I put on more muscle, one would be coz i stopped doing cardio so often but also coz I am much bigger than I was. These days I have picked cardio back up again but even with the same amount of training that I used to do, I still struggle with what I used to do easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinThis. It's like asking questions over how 5'10 Mike Tyson could be 225lbs of pure muscle. Bruno had good power, but his shocking stamina indicates he could've done with some extra helpQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Some great posts there Snakey !
Bruno's physique was so over the top that it makes you wonder if he took anything. And if he still looks like close to that today then it really makes you wonder.
Which if he is taking it today and NOT competing anymore then that is his business and I have no problem with it.
Found some pics from the Haye-Harrison fight
http://thesun.mobi/;m=is;f=jpg;h=191...caJUotDL4w.jpg
You can't tell much from that, but I fail to see anything in his fighting history that suggests he was on steroids. His entire amateur & pro career he was a massive puncher with serious stamina & chin issues. He happened to have a great physique, but aside from that & the power what else is there to suggest he was on anything?
I mean where do we go from this? Was Mike Tyson on the gear? Was Ken Norton? Let's face it one of the most notable steroid users of recent times was James Toney & he looked like Jabba The Hutt.
Bruno LOOKED great, but his performances were not exceptional or out of the ordinary. I see no reason to suspect him, nothing in his history suggests PED cheat.
Thats very true recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
But, have you ever seen the Toney vs. Washington fight ?
Toney looked like a body builder ! :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So6YG8SA0DA
Steroids dont turn you into pac, mayweather, ali,tyson etc It all depends on the kind of training you use them with. If your using steroids and just pumping the weights then your going to end up quite muscular but thats about it. If your doing explosive exercises and lots of cardio then youll find you will run faster and get stronger which would be more appropriate for a boxer. Bruno could of been on the gear but may of done the wrong training with it. Or maybe he was on roids just for the physique or maybe he wasnt on roids at all and had good genetics. BUT if he stills looks good and big then I would still be quite surprised if he wasnt using something like HGH or steroids.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
Bruno was just a fighter who trained too much with weights which led to his lack of stamina. Other fighters have good physiques such as Seldon, who was the black Hercules Weaver? Norton, Holyfield does not mean they took steroids.
He never had to pass a random blood test so who knows.....
Steroids were more detactable and less advanced back then than they are now.
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Originally Posted by erics44