Re: Manny Steward Interview
Thanks for the video my friend. I'll watch it after FNF. Manny definitely is an accessible trainer.
More importantly, Manny's yelling OH MY GOD during Berto/Ortiz was the best moment of pure love for boxing that I've ever heard by anyone involved with boxing in a long time.
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Ok, I'll bite. (That, and I'm too lazy to look back through past posts). WHY exactly do you call Haye "13"?
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marbleheadmaui
Ok, I'll bite. (That, and I'm too lazy to look back through past posts). WHY exactly do you call Haye "13"?
Sorry. Number of punches he THREW (didn't land but THREW) in his fight with Valuev. I'd never seen a number that low from a guy who lost a fight let alone a guy pursuing some kind of title. I was, and remain aghast! :)
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captainanddew
Thanks for the video my friend. I'll watch it after FNF. Manny definitely is an accessible trainer.
More importantly, Manny's yelling OH MY GOD during Berto/Ortiz was the best moment of pure love for boxing that I've ever heard by anyone involved with boxing in a long time.
Now he needs to write a technical boxing manual like the ones I have by Goldman and Gibbon and Leonard and Tunney and Demspey.
He's near 70 IIRC and he won't be around forever. PLEASE Manny! Don't let the craft die with you!
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marbleheadmaui
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TitoFan
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marbleheadmaui
Ok, I'll bite. (That, and I'm too lazy to look back through past posts). WHY exactly do you call Haye "13"?
Sorry. Number of punches he THREW (didn't land but THREW) in his fight with Valuev. I'd never seen a number that low from a guy who lost a fight let alone a guy pursuing some kind of title. I was, and remain aghast! :)
per round of course ;)
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hitmanhatton
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marbleheadmaui
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TitoFan
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marbleheadmaui
Ok, I'll bite. (That, and I'm too lazy to look back through past posts). WHY exactly do you call Haye "13"?
Sorry. Number of punches he THREW (didn't land but THREW) in his fight with Valuev. I'd never seen a number that low from a guy who lost a fight let alone a guy pursuing some kind of title. I was, and remain aghast! :)
per round of course ;)
doesn't help his case in the slightest :-\, hell the guy he called boring throws more than that in a round
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ElTerribleMorales
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hitmanhatton
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marbleheadmaui
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
Ok, I'll bite. (That, and I'm too lazy to look back through past posts). WHY exactly do you call Haye "13"?
Sorry. Number of punches he THREW (didn't land but THREW) in his fight with Valuev. I'd never seen a number that low from a guy who lost a fight let alone a guy pursuing some kind of title. I was, and remain aghast! :)
per round of course ;)
doesn't help his case in the slightest :-\, hell the guy he called boring throws more than that in a round
it was a tongue in cheek comment, chill out
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Bernard Hopkins, the universally recognised great fighter, threw just 326 total punches against Taylor first time around. That's an average of 27 punches per round. He landed just 96. That's about 3 punches per round.
Many believe he was robbed.
To hang a fighter on punchstats is ridiculous. Especially when that fighter believes ONE shot will end the fight.
Re: Manny Steward Interview
also to name the fighter after the amount of punches he throws in a round is gay
its like naming a footballer after the amount of times he kicks a ball in a match, that would be just as gay
or sucking a willy, that would gay also
im not sure which of the three is the gayest tho, probly the first
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Fenster
Bernard Hopkins, the universally recognised great fighter, threw just 326 total punches against Taylor first time around. That's an average of 27 punches per round. He landed just 96. That's about 3 punches per round.
Many believe he was robbed.
To hang a fighter on punchstats is ridiculous. Especially when that fighter believes ONE shot will end the fight.
I'm going to call 'Nard '27' from now on. That won't get old & really irritating quick.
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Fenster
Bernard Hopkins, the universally recognised great fighter, threw just 326 total punches against Taylor first time around. That's an average of 27 punches per round. He landed just 96. That's about 3 punches per round.
Many believe he was robbed.
To hang a fighter on punchstats is ridiculous. Especially when that fighter believes ONE shot will end the fight.
In other words the LOWEST number you could find is MORE THAN TWICE what 13 threw!
And BHOP LOST!
Bwahahahaha
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marbleheadmaui
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Fenster
Bernard Hopkins, the universally recognised great fighter, threw just 326 total punches against Taylor first time around. That's an average of 27 punches per round. He landed just 96. That's about 3 punches per round.
Many believe he was robbed.
To hang a fighter on punchstats is ridiculous. Especially when that fighter believes ONE shot will end the fight.
In other words the LOWEST number you could find is MORE THAN TWICE what 13 threw!
And BHOP LOST!
Bwahahahaha
Hilarious.
Whatever Haye's punch output, he won the Valuev fight by a landslide. However, 13 became "24" when he fought the far superior Wlad Klitschko. Bernard Hopkins, a 100% bonafide GREAT fighter, threw only 3 more punches per round in his effort to defend his long-standing undisputed middleweight crown. THREE punches per round more than Haye. THREE!!!
Haye's loss was without question. Hopkins lost close.
Can you confidently state your figures are 100% correct? Have you actually counted these blows?
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Fenster
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marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Bernard Hopkins, the universally recognised great fighter, threw just 326 total punches against Taylor first time around. That's an average of 27 punches per round. He landed just 96. That's about 3 punches per round.
Many believe he was robbed.
To hang a fighter on punchstats is ridiculous. Especially when that fighter believes ONE shot will end the fight.
In other words the LOWEST number you could find is MORE THAN TWICE what 13 threw!
And BHOP LOST!
Bwahahahaha
Hilarious.
Whatever Haye's punch output, he won the Valuev fight by a landslide. However, 13 became "24" when he fought the far superior Wlad Klitschko. Bernard Hopkins, a 100% bonafide GREAT fighter, threw only 3 more punches per round in his effort to defend his long-standing undisputed middleweight crown. THREE punches per round more than Haye. THREE!!!
Haye's loss was without question. Hopkins lost close.
Can you confidently state your figures are 100% correct? Have you actually counted these blows?
Yes, I counted them myself (stopping and starting to get them all) ona bet after alleging 13 had thrown 20 punches per round, far and away the lowest I'd ever heard of. A Brit 13 fan said I was completely wrong so I did the count myself.
Again the lowest you could find was TWICE as much as 13's! And 13 now has the TWO lowest outputs you've been able to find? Only a maroon doesn't find that staggering.
That kind of output displays an attitude that says "I'll survive and leave this up to the judges." There is no other way to see it. Again the next lowest by another fighter you could find was TWICE as many. TWICE!
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marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Bernard Hopkins, the universally recognised great fighter, threw just 326 total punches against Taylor first time around. That's an average of 27 punches per round. He landed just 96. That's about 3 punches per round.
Many believe he was robbed.
To hang a fighter on punchstats is ridiculous. Especially when that fighter believes ONE shot will end the fight.
In other words the LOWEST number you could find is MORE THAN TWICE what 13 threw!
And BHOP LOST!
Bwahahahaha
Hilarious.
Whatever Haye's punch output, he won the Valuev fight by a landslide. However, 13 became "24" when he fought the far superior Wlad Klitschko. Bernard Hopkins, a 100% bonafide GREAT fighter, threw only 3 more punches per round in his effort to defend his long-standing undisputed middleweight crown. THREE punches per round more than Haye. THREE!!!
Haye's loss was without question. Hopkins lost close.
Can you confidently state your figures are 100% correct? Have you actually counted these blows?
Yes, I counted them myself (stopping and starting to get them all) ona bet after alleging 13 had thrown 20 punches per round, far and away the lowest I'd ever heard of. A Brit 13 fan said I was completely wrong so I did the count myself.
Again the lowest you could find was TWICE as much as 13's! And 13 now has the TWO lowest outputs you've been able to find? Only a maroon doesn't find that staggering.
That kind of output displays an attitude that says "I'll survive and leave this up to the judges." There is no other way to see it. Again the next lowest by another fighter you could find was TWICE as many. TWICE!
I'm a "maroon?" I guess you're calling me a moron. Fair enough.
Haye WON the fight with his 13 (according to you) punches per round. What's the problem? You only have an argument if the fight was close. 95% of people saw Haye win EASY.
I'm showing you low output is NOTHING new in boxing. Great fighters sometimes don't throw much. Make of it what you will. ;)