More and more people are beginning to suppor the Olympic Style Random Blood Test Campaign (no days cut off bullshit). Sounds like good news for the sport :)
FIGHTHYPE \\ SERGIO MARTINEZ ON BOARD WITH THE "TAKE THE TESTS" CAMPAIGN
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More and more people are beginning to suppor the Olympic Style Random Blood Test Campaign (no days cut off bullshit). Sounds like good news for the sport :)
FIGHTHYPE \\ SERGIO MARTINEZ ON BOARD WITH THE "TAKE THE TESTS" CAMPAIGN
the problem though is that it is expensive. so, only boxers making purses large enough that they can afford to pay for it will ever do it. the commissions won't force it because they don't have the money themselves or don't want to spend the money. in my opinon, sergio is just doing it because he wants a fight with Floyd, which he'll never get because Floyd will fight another junior welterweight on the come up, which also makes sense because why take a bigger risk to fight a bigger guy when he could get paid more to fight a smaller guy.Quote:
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the problem though is that it is expensive. so, only boxers making purses large enough that they can afford to pay for it will ever do it. the commissions won't force it because they don't have the money themselves or don't want to spend the money. in my opinion, Sergio is just doing it because he wants a fight with Floyd
Makes sense.
But to say boxing doesn't have money sounds a bit silly considering the millions of money in the sport. If this ever becomes the norm, I wonder if Pac will retire early before someone randomly tests his blood.
i hear ya. but, think about it. have you heard of anyone, be it Malignaggi, Ward, Martinez etc., requesting random drug testing? i mean they might be in favor of the sport and the commissions requiring it, but has anyone other than Mayweather actually required it for a fight? i can't think of one person. why is that? moreover, mayweather and his father/uncle have investments in a few young fighters, do they require random drug testing for those boxers when they fight?Quote:
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Makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatratthe problem though is that it is expensive. so, only boxers making purses large enough that they can afford to pay for it will ever do it. the commissions won't force it because they don't have the money themselves or don't want to spend the money. in my opinion, Sergio is just doing it because he wants a fight with FloydQuote:
Originally Posted by Chino
But to say boxing doesn't have money sounds a bit silly considering the millions of money in the sport. If this ever becomes the norm, I wonder if Pac will retire early before someone randomly tests his blood.
W:oW!!! Never thought of that!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrati hear ya. but, think about it. have you heard of anyone, be it Malignaggi, Ward, Martinez etc., requesting random drug testing? i mean they might be in favor of the sport and the commissions requiring it, but has anyone other than Mayweather actually required it for a fight? i can't think of one person. why is that? moreover, mayweather and his father/uncle have investments in a few young fighters, do they require random drug testing for those boxers when they fight?Quote:
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Originally Posted by Chino
Makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatratthe problem though is that it is expensive. so, only boxers making purses large enough that they can afford to pay for it will ever do it. the commissions won't force it because they don't have the money themselves or don't want to spend the money. in my opinion, Sergio is just doing it because he wants a fight with FloydQuote:
Originally Posted by Chino
But to say boxing doesn't have money sounds a bit silly considering the millions of money in the sport. If this ever becomes the norm, I wonder if Pac will retire early before someone randomly tests his blood.
Sarcasm? I'm not sure.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Rantcatrati hear ya. but, think about it. have you heard of anyone, be it Malignaggi, Ward, Martinez etc., requesting random drug testing? i mean they might be in favor of the sport and the commissions requiring it, but has anyone other than Mayweather actually required it for a fight? i can't think of one person. why is that? moreover, mayweather and his father/uncle have investments in a few young fighters, do they require random drug testing for those boxers when they fight?Quote:
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Makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatratthe problem though is that it is expensive. so, only boxers making purses large enough that they can afford to pay for it will ever do it. the commissions won't force it because they don't have the money themselves or don't want to spend the money. in my opinion, Sergio is just doing it because he wants a fight with FloydQuote:
Originally Posted by Chino
But to say boxing doesn't have money sounds a bit silly considering the millions of money in the sport. If this ever becomes the norm, I wonder if Pac will retire early before someone randomly tests his blood.
Right? I mean Ward and Martinez have come out with statements saying they support testing, but is Ward requiring it for the Froch fight? Martinez in the Barker fight? Paulie basically insinuated Pacquiao took drugs, and said he was 100% for Olympic testing, but why hasn't be required it for his fights?
It's consistent with the fact that Mayweather hasn't petitioned for change in the sport or even his own state's commission. It would lend credibility to his cause if he petitioned the Nevada commission to require it.
The Olympics have the funding to require the testing, but boxing commissions at least for the most part, don't.
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If i am a fighter. and i see many other fighters doing peds or even a rival of mine. then this is what i will do.
Petion the boxing commision to do better testing. I would ask other fighters to sign the petition. or they can simply require it for my fight againts my rival.
BUT if i am jealous or afraid of a rival. I will directly ask him to do a better test during negotiation to rattle him and piss him off. I will also do this to my succeeding fights so that it wont be obvious that i am just targeting/slandering my rival.
These guys have nowhere near the leverage Floyd does. That's why. A Mayweather fight is a golden ticket. Being the b-side of a Paulie Malinaggi fight? Not so much. Paulie Malinaggi "requiring" that his opponents test just means fewer opponents/less money for Paulie Malinaggi (and much scorn at his sense of self-importance). With one notable exception, it means no such thing for Floyd.Quote:
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And we all know that the reason Floyd has required it for Mosley and Ortiz has nothing to do with being concerned that those guys are using PEDs; it's just so he can lay the precedent/present himself as consistent when he makes the same demand on Pacquiao (whom I think Floyd honestly believes takes PEDs).
What Floyd did with Mosley is not OLYMPIC STYLE.
Please be informed :(
THe Testing that FLoyd wants is Random within the fight contract and that is not OLYMPIC STYLE. OLYMPIC STYLE is year round.
Floyd can simply roid today and stop before the duration of the contract and then roid again after the fight.
HTH
Agreed. That was a bullshit test.Quote:
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NO ONE has been tested with zero cut off date yet.
Why the hell is it so expensive to take blood and piss in a bottle..and test it?!
It's a boring topic now.. But I will forever side with Mayweather on the testing issue as much as I find him insufferable. When you're a pro athlete and you squander the chance at mega millions due to a fear of needles? That stinks imo. And I know you can spin it off as Manny not willing to succumb to the demands in principal or out of pride, but it's still bogus when you're talking the amount of money these guys stand to make.
I'm not sure I understand the question.Quote:
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It's not the sample collection or testing that is so expensive it's the administration that manages the testing that bills a bunch of manpower hours though out the organization that makes it expensive.
The difference maybe because Urine is sterile and blood is not if you are comparing the two.
Thanks for the answer. It still seems so very expensiveQuote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyI'm not sure I understand the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's not the sample collection or testing that is so expensive it's the
administration that manages the
testing that bills a bunch of
manpower hours though out the
organization that makes it
expensive
The difference maybe because Urine is sterile and blood is not if
you are comparing the two.
You inadvertently interchanged the two: blood is sterile and urine is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyI'm not sure I understand the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
It's not the sample collection or testing that is so expensive it's the administration that manages the testing that bills a bunch of manpower hours though out the organization that makes it expensive.
The difference maybe because Urine is sterile and blood is not if you are comparing the two.
But you gave a good explanation.