Floyd was the Professional last night
Floyd is programmed to fight and programmed to WIN, like any great fighter should be. If you're Victor Ortiz going into the biggest fight of your life with Mayweather, you need to be 100% focused to go to war, not to play grab ass in the middle of the ring after a foul. The referee clearly waved the action on, and Victor is trying to hug and kiss Floyd like he was Grandmother Mayweather. Same shit with Gatti years back: if you stop fighting before the referee calls for a break in the action, you'll get popped.
I was really disappointed in Ortiz, as even though I didn't think he was winning the fight by any stretch, he was pressuring Floyd at times and giving a good account of himself. Boxing is a brutal sport that doesn't reward being nice.
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Floyd Mayweather is just too much
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What I think it showed was that Ortiz showed Floyd enough that rather than putting on a 12 round exhibition (ie marquez, whom he could of stopped anytime after 6 tbh) as he is known to do, he decided to take the first opportunity to get him out of there.
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AdamGB
What I think it showed was that Ortiz showed Floyd enough that rather than putting on a 12 round exhibition (ie marquez, whom he could of stopped anytime after 6 tbh) as he is known to do, he decided to take the first opportunity to get him out of there.
That's bullshit and you know it.
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I think AdamGB has got a decent point there. Ortiz was really rough-housing and gettng thru in the 4th round. Floyd may have said "this dude is only 24 and can go all night like this". So he smoked him on the margin of legality, and I mean right on the margin, to put the potential 12 rounds of who knows maybe another 25 headbutts to REST.
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AdamGB
What I think it showed was that Ortiz showed Floyd enough that rather than putting on a 12 round exhibition (ie marquez, whom he could of stopped anytime after 6 tbh) as he is known to do, he decided to take the first opportunity to get him out of there.
yeah i think mixture of that and him being p*ssed about the headbutt
in the marquez fight were i think Marquez threw a flurry of shots were maybe one or two landed and its as if Floyd suddenly moved up a gear and almost instantly dropped him
similar kind of thing were he feels like someone has took a liberty or pushed him a little too much
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Though Mayweather is highclass boxer, i've never seen him an unhuman master. During the last 4½ years he has had only 5 fights. Two (T)KO victories, 2 UD and 1 SD. Pacquaio has had during the same period 11 fights. 4 (T)KO victories, 6 UD an 1SD.
If Shane Mosley and ODLH are good counters it's more likely Pacman really being impressive during those 4½ years. Wladimir Klitschko has defended his tittle 9 times during the same period by winning 7 (T)KO's and 2UD. Nonito Donaire's list is impressive too. 10 fights, all wins, 9 by (T)KO's. 9 of them were tittle fights including him destroying brutally guys like Vic Darchinyan and Fernando Montiel. So who really has been impressive y 2007-2011?
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AdamGB
What I think it showed was that Ortiz showed Floyd enough that rather than putting on a 12 round exhibition (ie marquez, whom he could of stopped anytime after 6 tbh) as he is known to do, he decided to take the first opportunity to get him out of there.
And if Mayweather had put on an exhibition for 12 rounds then you'd be talking about how he was getting old in the ring and how Paquiao would have put Ortiz away in 4. Whatever th eguy does he can't win with some people. You may hate him, but just be hinest about it.
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those previous 2 posts above have perhaps misunderstood AdamGB's point. His point had nothing to do with "Floyd can't win with some people no matter what he does". :confused:
It actually had everything to do with Ortiz having shown Floyd a thing or 2 and Floyd deciding this ain't the night to do 12 rounds with this 24 yr old rough-houser.
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brocktonblockbust
those previous 2 posts above have perhaps misunderstood AdamGB's point. His point had nothing to do with "Floyd can't win with some people no matter what he does". :confused:
It actually had everything to do with Ortiz having shown Floyd a thing or 2 and Floyd deciding this ain't the night to do 12 rounds with this 24 yr old rough-houser.
Except he didn't. Ortiz showed nothing from the off and was losing every round. It was a shut out for Floyd and Victor got so hacked off about not being able to fight his fight that when Floyd gave him some mouth in the corner he headbutted him.
All that BS he came up with about Floyd moving his head forward is nonsese. He deliberately butted Floyd to try and cause damage and by doing so made it a dirty fight so Floyd sparked him.
To me it looked like Floyd was happy to win clean when it was a boxing match but when Ortiz decided to make it a street fight then Floyd proved he could win that too. Not for one second do I think that Floyd was scared of Ortiz's boxing ability - because lets face it, it was not a fair fight. Ortiz was so out of his depth that he had to resort to the street to try and stay in the fight and he only proved that he was out of his depth at that too - his trying to hug and kiss Floyd when he say that he'd pissed him off was just an embarrassment.
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
those previous 2 posts above have perhaps misunderstood AdamGB's point. His point had nothing to do with "Floyd can't win with some people no matter what he does". :confused:
It actually had everything to do with Ortiz having shown Floyd a thing or 2 and Floyd deciding this ain't the night to do 12 rounds with this 24 yr old rough-houser.
I see what Adam is saying, I just completely disagree. Ortiz showed nothing from the off and was losing every round. It was a shut out for Floyd and Victor got so hacked off about not being able to fight his fight that when Floyd gave him some mouth in the corner he head-butted him.
All that BS he came up with about Floyd moving his head forward is nonsense. He deliberately butted Floyd to try and cause damage and by doing so made it a dirty fight so Floyd sparked him.
To me it looked like Floyd was happy to win clean when it was a boxing match but when Ortiz decided to make it a street fight then Floyd proved he could win that too. Not for one second do I think that Floyd was scared of Ortiz's boxing ability - because lets face it, it was not a fair fight. Ortiz was so out of his depth that he had to resort to the street to try and stay in the fight and he only proved that he was out of his depth at that too - his trying to hug and kiss Floyd when he saw that he'd pissed him off was just an embarrassment.
All last night proved is that Flyod and Manny are way above the rest and that the only legitimate fight left for either of them is the other. I won't hold my breath though...
