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I still can't help but think that both these guys are ducking Tavoris Cloud.
I think Dawson will win a split decision, but either way Cloud would crush either of them.
Tavoris has grown on me and prefer him over either one of these but hop might be to crafty, see him beating dawson if its the same old "lazy" dawson that just does enough shows up.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I don't think they're ducking Cloud, he's still relatively unknown to casual fans, but I don't think either guy is in a hurry to get in the ring with him. It's too much risk for too little reward at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Think Pascal beats Cloud.
Hopkins wins an easy match against dawson then takes on bute and embarrasses him before he retires!
That wold be an ideal scenario, knowing him he may want to fight Froch/Ward winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrhydro
Thats true but I think ward would give BHop too much movement and maybe too much speed these days. Froch would get taken to school and sent home.
soooooo..........what were the weights?
don't think either guy is ducking Cloud, much less B-Hop, IMO Cloud is a bit overrated IMO Dawson did a better job against Johnson even the first time around
Hopkins ducking Cloud. Comic gold ;D Saw some pics, Dawson is giving Matt vanda a run for his money with all that ink.
I'd bet money this won't be a bore. Have an odd feeling we get some sharp hitting and fireworks before it's over. This is the ultimate crossroads match and make or break for Dawson. No more going sideways and maybes...piss or get off the pot!
No way, Pascal just isn't strong enough to fend off Cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Cloud is good but its too early to label him as an avoided fighter or boxing's most feared fighter or whatever. How the hell can he claim to be ducked when hes still an unknown commodity? Nobody knows this dude outside of the hardcore boxing circle. Just because he holds a paper title dont make himm special. Hes beaten mack annd? Hes still a contender as far as im concerened and he needs to earn his shot at the big names.
You guys are all pricks for making me go to boxrec.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Hopkins 173.5 lbs - Dawson 174.25 lbs
Garcia 139.5 lbs - Holt 139.5 lbs
DeMarco 134.5 lbs - Linares 134.75 lbs
Malignaggi 147.5 lbs - Lora 147.5 lbs
Pascal is faster than Cloud, he's explosive and hits hard enough to give Cloud probs, only thing is Cloud has a better work rate but neither has good stamina, so IMO the fight is pretty much a toss upQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongNo way, Pascal just isn't strong enough to fend off Cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master