Doubling up the jab.. Help?
okay ive learned the difference and practiced a stiff jab, so you probably cant do those quickly without a lot of practice, so how do you do 2 regular jabs, fast? like...
would you fully extend the first then on the rebound only go back a little bit and snap it back into their face :confused:
Re: Doubling up the jab.. Help?
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Sandman1995
okay ive learned the difference and practiced a stiff jab, so you probably cant do those quickly without a lot of practice, so how do you do 2 regular jabs, fast? like...
would you fully extend the first then on the rebound only go back a little bit and snap it back into their face :confused:
For me, the double jab is mostly about footwork. If you are moving forward, throw the first jab as you push off with the back foot and step forward with the front foot, as you bring the first jab back, slide the rear foot forward and then use that momentum to propel the second jab (finish by bringing the rear foot up). If you are moving backwards it's the reverse. You can also do it in a circle, with pivots. If you are orthodox and moving left, throw as you move your front foot slightly left, recoil as you swing your rear foot in to place and then repeat it. Keep the movements small. Try to improve your position with your jab.
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Sandman1995
okay ive learned the difference and practiced a stiff jab, so you probably cant do those quickly without a lot of practice, so how do you do 2 regular jabs, fast? like...
would you fully extend the first then on the rebound only go back a little bit and snap it back into their face :confused:
For me, the double jab is mostly about footwork. If you are moving forward, throw the first jab as you push off with the back foot and step forward with the front foot, as you bring the first jab back, slide the rear foot forward and then use that momentum to propel the second jab (finish by bringing the rear foot up). If you are moving backwards it's the reverse. You can also do it in a circle, with pivots. If you are orthodox and moving left, throw as you move your front foot slightly left, recoil as you swing your rear foot in to place and then repeat it. Keep the movements small. Try to improve your position with your jab.
Okay, does that make jabbing twice quicker? cuz im not worrying about the power of my jab right now, just how quickly i can do it
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Sandman1995
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Gocougars3
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Sandman1995
okay ive learned the difference and practiced a stiff jab, so you probably cant do those quickly without a lot of practice, so how do you do 2 regular jabs, fast? like...
would you fully extend the first then on the rebound only go back a little bit and snap it back into their face :confused:
For me, the double jab is mostly about footwork. If you are moving forward, throw the first jab as you push off with the back foot and step forward with the front foot, as you bring the first jab back, slide the rear foot forward and then use that momentum to propel the second jab (finish by bringing the rear foot up). If you are moving backwards it's the reverse. You can also do it in a circle, with pivots. If you are orthodox and moving left, throw as you move your front foot slightly left, recoil as you swing your rear foot in to place and then repeat it. Keep the movements small. Try to improve your position with your jab.
Okay, does that make jabbing twice quicker? cuz im not worrying about the power of my jab right now, just how quickly i can do it
I am not suggesting the footwork for power so much as for effectiveness. You will get what I mean if you do some controlled sparring drill (assuming you are at this stage). Try hitting your partner for 1/2 a round only using single, double or triple jabs. Your partner can move his feet, parry, block, slip, duck, et al, but in the beginning rounds have him only defend, then switch roles. As you advance you can do a round of sparring with jabs in which you can both attack and defend simulataneously (but again only use jabs) I think pretty quickly you will find out that jabbing without proper footwork is a pretty fruitless endeavor.
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Alright cool thanks, cuz i think im going to be an outside fighter by how im doing so far, so i wanna get my jab and right cross to go beautifully.
moving quick on my feet lots of jabs and right crosses seems like what i do right now or just jab until i find an opening
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Yup. Cougar beat me to it. I was going to say something similar. ;)
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what if i wanted to just quickly double jab? would i bring my arm all the way back or just a bit and then push it back out?
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what if i wanted to just quickly double jab? would i bring my arm all the way back or just a bit and then push it back out?
You can do it either way. The best way is to flicker it out and bring it back all the way to it's defensive position, and then fire it straight back out, I think.
It depends. The main objective of the double/flicker jab is to catch them when they're not expecting it as well as to maintain an arms length distance so that your opponent can't hit you that easily.
If you do it the right way, you can even stick your arm straight out in front of them and keep it there. If I were you I'd watch some Tommy Hearns fights and pay attention to his flicker jab.
Another notable thing that Tommy Hearns does is he sticks his glove in front of his opponents eye, and holds his arm straight out when he does so. The purpose of that is to block the opponents view while he's coming behind it with a powerful straight right. If you manage to see that on the video, pay very close attention to how he does it.
Check out Hearns vs. Pipino Cuevas. It's a nice, short fight that ends spectacularly and it's chock full of examples of distance with good jab frequency and power. Check out the link below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4BZ2-hBbsA
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Speaking of Tommy watch this one.
Dude fights Tommy at his own distance, not at Tommys..
Oh well :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlCIaav3wpM&feature=related
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Just starting out, your best bet is to throw your jab properly at all times. When you start worrying doing it fast, flicking it out and bringing it back part way, etc...you are talking about teaching yourself bad habits. I can almost guarantee you that you will, before long, be asking why you keep getting hit with right hands. Keep in mind that doubling up on a jab has a lot more to do with strategy than with hand speed.
Something to keep in mind about Hearns and the way he used his jab. He got away with a lot, some of it due to his height, but most of it due to his right hand. Trying to do what he did, without understanding that, will get you into trouble.
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Alright, thanks for the advice and the videos guys