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Yep he is as much about building history (his story) as about the sport.
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He is a quality fighter, no doubt. Still hate the wanker but he is brilliant. He is so well conditioned, superb boxing skills and has confidence in the ring like no other fighter today. Only fighter at middleweight and age can beat him.
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He is a quality fighter, no doubt. Still hate the wanker but he is brilliant. He is so well conditioned, superb boxing skills and has confidence in the ring like no other fighter today. Only fighter at middleweight and age can beat him.
I can go with your views, to some people he's like Marmite covered sprouts.;D
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Agreed, he put on a hell of a performance in there, I really do hope he carrys on his career. I had such a good night with all of my mates that night , i finally ordered boxnation and had all my mates over watching the FA cup final and then the Mayweather fight was such a good day.
I hope he keeps fighting, I would love to see him fight either Pacquiao (bullshit aside, it's the fight we need to see) , Martinez at 154 or as a British fight fan in not too far future maybe Khan at 147? I feel bad for Khan after what has happened with Peterson, shocked is the only word that comes to mind really. What is Khan going to do now stay at 140 for one more fight and then move up to 147? Who is Khan going to fight in June? Interesting times really, I would be so pissed if i was Khan, I bet he worked hard for this rematch and has been completley shit on. Maybe Mayweather-Khan should maybe one day happen. I wouldnt mind Khan - Alexander at 147 either.
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In the ring he's a genius and there is no argument is possible there. Problem is his politics his arrogance and his personality. It's great that he's FINALLY fought Cotto but due to politics (and the ego's of himself and Arum) that fight is arguably 4 years too late (despite Cotto probably being a better fighter now than he was circa 2008).
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Nothing but respect for Mayweathers boxing ability, will go down as an ATG. Will be interesting to see where he is ranked in 20 years time.
Great chin, great footwork, great offence, great boxing brain. He knows the perfect strategy for each opponent. He has shown in tough fights if he has to dig deep then he will. He has been hit hard, took it well and come back and closed the show.
I can't think of anything missing from his repertoire.
I thought Cotto had a chance of winning but he was clearly beaten although he fought hard and well.I have picked against Mayweather a few times - not because I'm not a fan or even that I want him to lose it's sort of like a morbid curiosity wondering what it will take to beat him.
I agree with what's been said the only thing that beats Mayweather is complacency, father time or going one step too far and fighting someone who has a ridiculous size/weight advantage.
Skill wise no one can touch Mayweather. I think he will turn Pac on his head and stop him if he fights offensively and attacks mercilessly with bad intentions. That would put him top 3 GOAT.
Just my opinion. Good opening post.
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I agree with the beans. While he is a dirtbag outside of the ring, he is also a good clean fighter in the ring.
I'm one of those guys that despises Floyd Mayweather Jr. As a fighter, he is good, although he's been taking a few breaks and, in my opinion, shouldn't have even fought Ortiz. But as a person, Mayweather is trash. The guy has no respect at all. Burning money, flashing money all over the place, acting like he's better than everybody else, like he's God's gift to the world.
Why does Floyd need to act like that to be a star? Joe Louis was the perfect gentleman, and nothing Mayweather can ever do will ever amount to Louis's accomplishments and popularity in his day.
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I agree with the beans. While he is a dirtbag outside of the ring, he is also a good clean fighter in the ring.
I'm one of those guys that despises Floyd Mayweather Jr. As a fighter, he is good, although he's been taking a few breaks and, in my opinion, shouldn't have even fought Ortiz. But as a person, Mayweather is trash. The guy has no respect at all. Burning money, flashing money all over the place, acting like he's better than everybody else, like he's God's gift to the world.
Why does Floyd need to act like that to be a star? Joe Louis was the perfect gentleman, and nothing Mayweather can ever do will ever amount to Louis's accomplishments and popularity in his day.
Have to agree, he is an arsehole outside of the ring. Too much money and too many people kissing his arse have a lot to do with it. I reckon a lot of it is for show but still....
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He's neither all good nor all bad. I hate the attitude he feels he has to portray, but this is a guy who paid for Joe Frazier's funeral and he gave Miguel Cotto nothing but high praise. His idea of being "the bad guy" hasn't hurt PPV sales or ticket sales and it has made him plenty of cash. He's been a great champion, he's supremely talented, I'm not nor have I ever been a fan of his, but I can honestly say I appreciate what he's done in the sport more now than at any other point in his career.
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Nothing but respect for Mayweathers boxing ability, will go down as an ATG. Will be interesting to see where he is ranked in 20 years time.
Great chin, great footwork, great offence, great boxing brain. He knows the perfect strategy for each opponent. He has shown in tough fights if he has to dig deep then he will. He has been hit hard, took it well and come back and closed the show.
I can't think of anything missing from his repertoire.
I thought Cotto had a chance of winning but he was clearly beaten although he fought hard and well.I have picked against Mayweather a few times - not because I'm not a fan or even that I want him to lose it's sort of like a morbid curiosity wondering what it will take to beat him.
I agree with what's been said the only thing that beats Mayweather is complacency, father time or going one step too far and fighting someone who has a ridiculous size/weight advantage.
Skill wise no one can touch Mayweather. I think he will turn Pac on his head and stop him if he fights offensively and attacks mercilessly with bad intentions. That would put him top 3 GOAT.
Just my opinion. Good opening post.
Well, if the guy never fights Pac, it will hurt his P4P standings in the future, probably. I think, seeing the way Miguel Cotto was able to give Floyd trouble, that Pac has as good a chance as anybody of giving Floyd hell.
But the fight will likely never happen. We could dream.
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Said it before, Floyd's one of the greatest fighters to have ever laced up, we're lucky to have been able to watch him. Bit of a cock, sure, we've all got regrets and it doesn't stop us holding others in high regard.
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Slim the BoxingManiac
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armyash
Nothing but respect for Mayweathers boxing ability, will go down as an ATG. Will be interesting to see where he is ranked in 20 years time.
Great chin, great footwork, great offence, great boxing brain. He knows the perfect strategy for each opponent. He has shown in tough fights if he has to dig deep then he will. He has been hit hard, took it well and come back and closed the show.
I can't think of anything missing from his repertoire.
I thought Cotto had a chance of winning but he was clearly beaten although he fought hard and well.I have picked against Mayweather a few times - not because I'm not a fan or even that I want him to lose it's sort of like a morbid curiosity wondering what it will take to beat him.
I agree with what's been said the only thing that beats Mayweather is complacency, father time or going one step too far and fighting someone who has a ridiculous size/weight advantage.
Skill wise no one can touch Mayweather. I think he will turn Pac on his head and stop him if he fights offensively and attacks mercilessly with bad intentions. That would put him top 3 GOAT.
Just my opinion. Good opening post.
Well, if the guy never fights Pac, it will hurt his P4P standings in the future, probably. I think, seeing the way Miguel Cotto was able to give Floyd trouble, that Pac has as good a chance as anybody of giving Floyd hell.
But the fight will likely never happen. We could dream.
Agree, I don't see it happening anytime soon. In another 12 months time (18 max) it will be another fight that happened too late. Some reports are already saying that they are both starting to enter a decline (speed, reflexes) whether or not that is true, it will be a valid point if they don't get it on sooner rather than later.
