Watched fights and scorecards
A place 4 posting scorecards and impressions about fights so they will not b lost 2 time .
Michael Carbajal vs Humberto Gonzalez #1
Gonzalez : 1,2 (10-8) ,3,4,5 (10-8)
i scored d 6th even which could possibly b given 2 Gonzalez as well .
Carbajal KOd him in d 7th after managing a technical KD (punched Gonzalez back 2d ropes which held him up) in d 7th that was not scored as such , it also deprived Gonzalez from a standing 8 count that might have bought him some time and allowed him 2 recuperate .
overall a KO7 win 4 Carbajal scored 60-53 in favor of Gonzalez not including d 7th rd which was not completed .
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A place 4 posting scorecards and impressions about fights so they will not b lost 2 time .
Michael Carbajal vs Humberto Gonzalez #1
Gonzalez : 1,2 (10-8) ,3,4,5 (10-8)
i scored d 6th even which could possibly b given 2 Gonzalez as well .
Carbajal KOd him in d 7th after managing a technical KD (punched Gonzalez back 2d ropes which held him up) in d 7th that was not scored as such , it also deprived Gonzalez from a standing 8 count that might have bought him some time and allowed him 2 recuperate .
overall a KO7 win 4 Carbajal scored 60-52 in favor of Gonzalez not including d 7th rd which was not completed .
Carbajal won the 2nd, he controlled the first 2 minutes bloodying up Gonzalez and swelling his eye and then Gonzalez came on the last minute of the round, only being effective in the last 30 seconds
so it was
Gonzalez - 1 (plus KD), 3, 4 (plus KD), 5, 6
Carbajal - 2
Gonzalez controlled him with his range, his straight punches and shots to the body, left himself open in the 7th and got hit with what I feel was a flash KD at first (cause he came back to defend himself effectively) until being banged with the huge left to the jaw that sparked him clean
in short, scores don't matter shit here cause Carbajal ended up getting a clean KO, which in retrospect should put your KD logic to shit cause he got off the floor twice to pull off the W :-X
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frankenfrank
A place 4 posting scorecards and impressions about fights so they will not b lost 2 time .
Michael Carbajal vs Humberto Gonzalez #1
Gonzalez : 1,2 (10-8) ,3,4,5 (10-8)
i scored d 6th even which could possibly b given 2 Gonzalez as well .
Carbajal KOd him in d 7th after managing a technical KD (punched Gonzalez back 2d ropes which held him up) in d 7th that was not scored as such , it also deprived Gonzalez from a standing 8 count that might have bought him some time and allowed him 2 recuperate .
overall a KO7 win 4 Carbajal scored 60-53 in favor of Gonzalez not including d 7th rd which was not completed .
Carbajal won the 2nd, he controlled the first 2 minutes bloodying up Gonzalez and swelling his eye and then Gonzalez came on the last minute of the round, only being effective in the last 30 seconds
so it was
Gonzalez - 1 (plus KD), 3, 4 (plus KD), 5, 6
Carbajal - 2
Gonzalez controlled him with his range, his straight punches and shots to the body, left himself open in the 7th and got hit with what I feel was a flash KD at first (cause he came back to defend himself effectively) until being banged with the huge left to the jaw that sparked him clean
in short, scores don't matter shit here cause Carbajal ended up getting a clean KO, which in retrospect should put your KD logic to shit cause he got off the floor twice to pull off the W :-X
I apply my KD logic in cases when d fights go d distance which , as u stated was not d case here .
I think what happened near/above Gonzalez' eye could b a result of a headbutt/elbow but i don't claim that it was , it just that it still needs verification .
I added d scores wrong , 60-53 in favor of Gonzalez is what i meant , i think i just meant 2 type 3 but somehow pressed on d 2 .
I think scoring by KDs is still more reliable than scoring by cuts&puffiness which is what u did here in rd 2 , and already explained Y .
BTW , my KD logic still means something in this case as well , because had it been 4eal , Gonzalez would have jumped on Carbajal and finished him right after d 1st KD .
Also , under Jack Dempsey's era rules , d same applies .
Being d 1st 2 score a KD means a lot in real life .
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frankenfrank
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ElTerribleMorales
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frankenfrank
A place 4 posting scorecards and impressions about fights so they will not b lost 2 time .
Michael Carbajal vs Humberto Gonzalez #1
Gonzalez : 1,2 (10-8) ,3,4,5 (10-8)
i scored d 6th even which could possibly b given 2 Gonzalez as well .
Carbajal KOd him in d 7th after managing a technical KD (punched Gonzalez back 2d ropes which held him up) in d 7th that was not scored as such , it also deprived Gonzalez from a standing 8 count that might have bought him some time and allowed him 2 recuperate .
overall a KO7 win 4 Carbajal scored 60-53 in favor of Gonzalez not including d 7th rd which was not completed .
Carbajal won the 2nd, he controlled the first 2 minutes bloodying up Gonzalez and swelling his eye and then Gonzalez came on the last minute of the round, only being effective in the last 30 seconds
so it was
Gonzalez - 1 (plus KD), 3, 4 (plus KD), 5, 6
Carbajal - 2
Gonzalez controlled him with his range, his straight punches and shots to the body, left himself open in the 7th and got hit with what I feel was a flash KD at first (cause he came back to defend himself effectively) until being banged with the huge left to the jaw that sparked him clean
in short, scores don't matter shit here cause Carbajal ended up getting a clean KO, which in retrospect should put your KD logic to shit cause he got off the floor twice to pull off the W :-X
I apply my KD logic in cases when d fights go d distance which , as u stated was not d case here .
I think what happened near/above Gonzalez' eye could b a result of a headbutt/elbow but i don't claim that it was , it just that it still needs verification .
I added d scores wrong , 60-53 in favor of Gonzalez is what i meant , i think i just meant 2 type 3 but somehow pressed on d 2 .
I think scoring by KDs is still more reliable than scoring by cuts&puffiness which is what u did here in rd 2 , and already explained Y .
BTW , my KD logic still means something in this case as well , because had it been 4eal , Gonzalez would have jumped on Carbajal and finished him right after d 1st KD .
Also , under Jack Dempsey's era rules , d same applies .
Being d 1st 2 score a KD means a lot in real life .
you talk so much shit dude lol you go ROUND BY ROUND, so no fighter wins just by scoring a KD unless the other fighter doesn't get up, I gave Carbajal the 2nd because he inflicted more damage on Gonzalez, it's pretty fucking simple
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It was an amazing fight and very entertaining.
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you talk so much shit dude lol you go ROUND BY ROUND, so no fighter wins just by scoring a KD unless the other fighter doesn't get up, I gave Carbajal the 2nd because he inflicted more damage on Gonzalez, it's pretty fucking simple
no , it's u that talks shit as usual .
KD count is n alternative 2 scoring RBR , i went RBR here , but anyway Gonzalez was ahead prior 2d stoppage .
Had it been 4eal , he would have been d winner . But then who knows ? so he lost by KO .
What u consider "Carbajal inflicting more damage on Gonzalez" might have been a result of a headbutt/elbow so i don't score by facial damage . But i don't Xpect u 2 understand , because u score headbutts and elbows just like u do legal punches .
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no , it's u that talks shit as usual .
KD count is n alternative 2 scoring RBR , i went RBR here , but anyway Gonzalez was ahead prior 2d stoppage .
Had it been 4eal , he would have been d winner . But then who knows ? so he lost by KO .
What u consider "Carbajal inflicting more damage on Gonzalez" might have been a result of a headbutt/elbow so i don't score by facial damage . But i don't Xpect u 2 understand , because u score headbutts and elbows just like u do legal punches .
no crotch monkey, BOXING is scored on a round by round basis, it's called the 10 point MUST SYSTEM, we're not back in the old days when rounds weren't timed either, and what the hell do you mean had it been for real?!? wtf is that dude they weren't playing patty cake, and you can assume that the damage was by punches because A) Carbajal didn't get marked up and B) because Carbajal was whacking that eye from the get go and continued to do so throughout the fight, I don't expect you to understand because well you're dumb as fuck and don't understand boxing, for fucks sake probably have never stepped into a gym a day in your life
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ElTerribleMorales
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no , it's u that talks shit as usual .
KD count is n alternative 2 scoring RBR , i went RBR here , but anyway Gonzalez was ahead prior 2d stoppage .
Had it been 4eal , he would have been d winner . But then who knows ? so he lost by KO .
What u consider "Carbajal inflicting more damage on Gonzalez" might have been a result of a headbutt/elbow so i don't score by facial damage . But i don't Xpect u 2 understand , because u score headbutts and elbows just like u do legal punches .
no crotch monkey, BOXING is scored on a round by round basis, it's called the 10 point MUST SYSTEM, we're not back in the old days when rounds weren't timed either, and what the hell do you mean had it been for real?!? wtf is that dude they weren't playing patty cake, and you can assume that the damage was by punches because A) Carbajal didn't get marked up and B) because Carbajal was whacking that eye from the get go and continued to do so throughout the fight, I don't expect you to understand because well you're dumb as fuck and don't understand boxing, for fucks sake probably have never stepped into a gym a day in your life
I meant if it was a real fight instead of a boxing fight , not that it was a staged boxing fight .
and i suggested n alternative 2d very flawed "10 pts must system" .
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ElTerribleMorales
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no , it's u that talks shit as usual .
KD count is n alternative 2 scoring RBR , i went RBR here , but anyway Gonzalez was ahead prior 2d stoppage .
Had it been 4eal , he would have been d winner . But then who knows ? so he lost by KO .
What u consider "Carbajal inflicting more damage on Gonzalez" might have been a result of a headbutt/elbow so i don't score by facial damage . But i don't Xpect u 2 understand , because u score headbutts and elbows just like u do legal punches .
no crotch monkey, BOXING is scored on a round by round basis, it's called the 10 point MUST SYSTEM, we're not back in the old days when rounds weren't timed either, and what the hell do you mean had it been for real?!? wtf is that dude they weren't playing patty cake, and you can assume that the damage was by punches because A) Carbajal didn't get marked up and B) because Carbajal was whacking that eye from the get go and continued to do so throughout the fight, I don't expect you to understand because well you're dumb as fuck and don't understand boxing, for fucks sake probably have never stepped into a gym a day in your life
I meant if it was a real fight instead of a boxing fight , not that it was a staged boxing fight .
and i suggested n alternative 2d very flawed "10 pts must system" .
well it was a boxing fight so it should be scored as such, it's a REAL fight, and yes the 10 pt must system if flawed but nowhere as flawed as your retarded "logic" where just because a man scores a KD despite being schooled for the rest of the fight he automatically is the winner cause he dropped his opponent, cause that bullshit came out of your mouth, not mine
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David Haye vs Dereck Chisora .
good boxing per4mance by Haye , but d referee was clearly in a hurry 2 count fast when Chisora went down , and when he still got up in time d 2nd time , d referee stopped d fight .
But then Chisora was visibly hurt , so maybe it was fine .
Chisora was just a bit 2 slow , lazy and did not press enough . He did hurt Haye on a few occasions .
Haye also showed that despite Chisora's being fatter and hence heavier , that he (Haye) was d bigger , stronger man by being able 2 push Chisora backwards when he wanted 2 .
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David Haye vs Dereck Chisora .
good boxing per4mance by Haye , but d referee was clearly in a hurry 2 count fast when Chisora went down , and when he still got up in time d 2nd time , d referee stopped d fight .
But then Chisora was visibly hurt , so maybe it was fine .
Chisora was just a bit 2 slow , lazy and did not press enough . He did hurt Haye on a few occasions .
Haye also showed that despite Chisora's being fatter and hence heavier , that he (Haye) was d bigger , stronger man by being able 2 push Chisora backwards when he wanted 2 .
you do know that scorecards pretty much don't mean shit in fights that the loser is well dominated then stopped, right?
if it was a come from behind KO like for instance Chavez/Taylor I, then that would be a different story
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Alimi Goitia TKO Satoshi Iida
In Japan
From my pt of view it seemed a possibly premature stoppage , but in his corner after de stoppage Iida did not luk very well .
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I feel highly intoxicated after reading all of that ;D
from what I remember Gonzalez was left in a heap laying on his face for a dirt nap. Scores really seem pointless though I believe I gave Carbajal one round. That fight was an epic!
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Finished watching "Khaokor Galaxy" vs Sung-Kil Moon #1 & #2
Not very good fights despite that there was action .
It may b bikoz my interest in S-es increased l8ly , so de 2nd 1 woz hard 2 woch 4 me , but it woz not e bed fait , jast e long 1 .
Moon woz onli down 1ce @ their 2nd fait , but received a standing8count et de seim rd .
It woz in Thailand so wu nowz wot woz in Moon's food / woter / ho / hotel rum there .
Moon woz olso stylistically meid 4 "Khaokor" ez hi enabled him 2 counterpunch laik hi laikt .
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Galaxy was a beast of a fighter.
