The two biggest headcases in HW boxing history. Who win's?
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The two biggest headcases in HW boxing history. Who win's?
Both would be DQ'ed resulting in a No Contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER
Ibeabuchi weighed more so Ibeabuchi...I mean OBVIOUSLY.....oooh plus he never lost AND he weighed more and someone on here somewhere this one time said Ibeabuchi hit the hardest ever....sorry I should put that part in quotes "Ibeabuchi hit the hardest ever" - some guy, this one time
Tyson lost to most people who hit him back.
Calm Down Dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
U sound like you're on the edge of having a nervous breakdown!
Ike Ibeabuchi doesn't calm down and neither does Tyson which brings me to the point that Ike Ibeabuchi is like 350 pounds now so he would EASILY punch harder than Tyson these days. By the way, your fat picture of Tyson is a year or two old, he's gotten in better shape recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHERCalm Down Dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
U sound like you're on the edge of having a nervous breakdown!
I pick Tyson. He has pulled off the insane nutter thing for many more years. He also had more than two fighters on his record who the majority of fans have actually heard of. Oh and his neck is thicker.
After he was exposed as hit-able, it was a fast and impressive downward spiral, I almost felt sorry for Tyson at times. I'm glad to see he has made a "comeback" of sorts in a lot of people's eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Mike Tyson has done just about everything the hard way, he has had an interesting life, to say the least.
Would he have won or lost against Ibeabuchi? I don't know, but Tyson was nowhere as durable as Ike in my opinion.
Being serious for a second, the deal with Ike Ibeabuchi is that he's from Nigeria and Nigeria has a storied history of heavyweights (albeit not all positive). Lots of the Nigerian heavyweights showed great promise (Ibeabuchi included) but then failed to impress after great performances. David Izon, Friday Ahunaya, Sam Peter, etc...these guys looked like unstoppable forces but then met resistance and were humbled by better boxers. I will always believe that if given more time in the division than his 20 fights he would have been "found out" and once beaten he would have not looked so great.
Ibeabuchi was diagnosed with bipolar and schizo-effective disorders which over time would have hindered his effectiveness in the ring either because he would have HAD to use drugs to make sure his head was right (those drugs have huge side effects) or he would have just gone bonkers in training or in a fight.
Mike Tyson is bipolar too but the schizo part of Ike's diagnosis is what worries me.
Ibeabuchi vs Holyfield would have been a barn burner
That reminds me a guy David Izeqwire who looked gangbusters at cruiserweight destroying Bobby czyz, lost his next and won everything else after and dropped off the map. Little more direction and molding who knows.
Top notch match yeh! I go Holyfield over Ike too. For all the reasons above and two guys with totally night and day mentality. Unlike Tua Holyfield would be hitting him with twos and threes. Ike just imploded once he 'made it'. Overwhelmed and mentally not prepared under the spotlight.
I agree with Spicoli the thicker neck wins it for me. Tyson must have the thickest neck in history which means “he could take a hell of a punch and possibly the greatest heavyweight as a result” end quote from Ross.
Would have been a great fight, but Tyson would've landed combinations on him and probably have been to mobile at his best. I think Ibeabuchi is quite overrated on behalf of the Tua fight myself, that was an epic battle but against a guy who really couldn't move or land more than one at a time. David Tua is severely overrated by some people imo, Tyson was a way different type of dangerous.
Ike never fought someone that hand defense & could make him pay. He fought Chris Byrd who had good defense but feather fists and he fought Tua who could bang but not dodge much at all....I think if he fought Holyfield or Lewis and perhaps even Tyson he would have had a difficult time because he put everything behind his punches and if you miss and get caught by one of those guys then you're in trouble no matter who you are.