Name your top 10 heavyweights champions with the greatest heart, grit, determination and just all round hard as f**king nails. I think there should be a lot of old time champions on the list than modern fighters.
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Name your top 10 heavyweights champions with the greatest heart, grit, determination and just all round hard as f**king nails. I think there should be a lot of old time champions on the list than modern fighters.
Whoops...:embarassed:
Anyhoo, I think the Heavyweight Champs with the "Greatest heart, grit, determination and just all round hard as f**king nails" are:
Jack Dempsey
Rocky Marciano
Joe Frazier
Muhammad Ali (1970s version)
Jack Johnson
Jack Dempsey
George Chuvalo
Rocky Marciano
Oliver McCall
Vitali Klitschko
Ray Mercer
Tex Cobb
Joe Frazier
Ali
What the $#!t?!
Oliver McCall, Vitali Klitschko, Chuvalo, Mercer? Tex Cobb?
Cobb and Chuvalo were definitely tough and hard as nails, they were two of the toughest men there's ever been, and they actually had too much Heart for their own good, but they were never Heavyweight Champ. Much respect to those tuff guys with Heart though.
That nutbar McCall went to pieces during a title fight and started crying around. Vitali quit against lil Chris Byrd in a match in which Vitali had won every rd. Mercer was tough with perhaps the best chin in Boxing at the time, but he also had that bribe attempt against ferguson and conceded against Bonjasky and Wladimir. They can't make the cut of "Greatest Heart, grit, determination, and hard as effin' nails" though.
Well he didn't quit because he pulled a Victor Ortiz, he quit on the stool because his jabbing arm became useless. Slightly different.
Grit: Ali
Power: Wlad
Heart: Lewis and Louis (came down from KO's to win em back by KO's, that's heart in my book)
Hand Speed: Tyson
Foot Speed: 70's Ali
BadMutha: Dempsy
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Originally Posted by Master
Sorry but I'm going to have to include some non establishment champions;D
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Vital
Mercer
Tyson in the prime 2 years was unstoppable.
Jeffries
Liston
Langford. Iron will for a guy that size to be that good at heavyweight.
Sullivan
Baer
Marciano
Wills
They have to be champs! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
I stand by McCall barring his drug meltdown against Lewis the man is sturdy and tough as bricks. Sorry I misread champions only.
Evander Holyfield
Vitali redeemed himself against Lewis and is 1 tough SOB
John L Sullivan
Big deal. He was out of his mind and detoxing from a terrible drug problem. In his sixty something other fights he's never been knocked off his feet. He's one bad motherfucka. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Frazier
3. Evander Holyfield
4. George Foreman
5. Joe Louis
6. Rocky Marciano (never lost for a reason I'd imagine)
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Jimmy Ellis (Believe he had a title once and now is blind in one eye)
9. Mike Tyson (Had to beat the holy hell outta him to stop him)
10. Oliver McCall
110. Bruce Seldon ;D I kid. Poor guy.
Muhammad Ali--never seen a motherfucker able to take the left hooks from Hell in 1971 March 8 from the greatest Left-Hooker of all time and still get up and still fight like a bitch. Never seen an athlete like this. MOre than an athlete--a human being of amazing grace and charisma.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
George Foreman--meanest sonofabitch ever lived---at 42 he took 37 unanswered shots from prime Evander Holyfield who by the way is a Top 10 Alltime Heavyweight, and he sucked it up with dignity, and he sucked it up with pride, and he wouldnt say "uncle". <Meanest sonofabitch ever lived, Big George Foreman, he took Morrison's shots as an old man, we dcouldnt take a single left hook from proime pre-AIDS Tommy Morrison if our lives depended on it.
Joe Frazier--toughest sonof abitch with no quit in 'im. Got up 6 times from Bombs from All-Hell-Breaks-Loose Big George Foreman in his prime. Woulda still kept fightin that bastard from South Philly. Set the tone for Bernard Hopkins years later.
Larry Holmes---you name who can take the Earnie Shavers Right Hand Overhand like an Arcing Fucking Rainbow from the Depths of Hell and still get up at the count of 8 and WIN THE ROUND. Larry's chin is one of the greatest of all time, hands down. No quit, no retreat, he'll take all your shots and he'll outhustle ya. He'll find a way to win, second in title defenses only to the Brown Bomber. Woulda tied the Rock at 49-0 hadn't it been for Don the Fuck King.
Rocky Marciano---nobody could beat him. Anybody anytime, he will dog you to death into your grave, he will not give up, he will fight to the funeral. He is the Man.
Are you kidding me? Mercer fought Wladimir when he was nearly 50 years old, and fought Bojansky when he was nearly 60. The early 90's Mercer was a tough some of a beyatch- you need to do your homework!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
In no particular order,
Ray Mercer (notice how we can say his last name alone, and we all know who he is even though he wasn't an elite champion of the era)
George Foreman (the batterings he took against Stewart and Holyfield in the second half of his career would have killed an elephant!)
Jack Dempsey
Ali (Ali carried too many of his fights when he could have very well ended them. Thus, he took more bruisings than most champs.)
Rocky Marciano (although not that high on my list because he fought a lot of over-the-hill guys and really never been in that many wars EXCEPT for against Jersey Joe.)
Tony TNT Tucker (that's right, and fuck y'all who don't think so too. He stood up against Tyson in his prime and Lewis at the latter part of his prime and took what he had coming to him- and finished all of those fights. You can't talk about tough SOB's without talking about Tony TNT Tucker)
Honourable mention: Frans Botha. (that's right, and fuck y'all with this one too if you don't think so. There is NO WAY Botha should have been in the ring fighting for championships and taking the champs at the time to the limit- he was beating the snot out of Moorer and Tyson before he got ko'd. Botha made it that far on pure grit.... ;D)
Very diplomatic. I can tell you have a bright future around here...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Botha was/is tough, but he got crushed by Lennox Lewis. He sure hung tough in K-1 Kickboxing tho.
Have to disagree with Franz there, mate. Sure he coulda kicked all our asses out the door and back. But toughest or hardest?Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkVery diplomatic. I can tell you have a bright future around here...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Botha was/is tough, but he got crushed by Lennox Lewis. He sure hung tough in K-1 Kickboxing tho.