Re: Journeymen with upside!
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
I know this is kind of an off-beat topic, but do you know of any journeymen with upside?
;D
Guys who have fought the who's who, lost them all, but still have the ability to turn it up once they get their act together?!?! And, showed enough promise to be considered decent opposition.
Give me some names. We're talking about guys with more than 5 losses against good or above average competition.
Two names come to mind: Travis Walker and Dominic Guinn- both heavies, but still good draw's in my book!
Terry Carruthers. Current Journeyman, exciting to watch.
Bert Cooper. (Genuine KO power, 47 just not, was knocking people out in 2010 still.)
Re: Journeymen with upside!
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
I know this is kind of an off-beat topic, but do you know of any journeymen with upside?
;D
Guys who have fought the who's who, lost them all, but still have the ability to turn it up once they get their act together?!?! And, showed enough promise to be considered decent opposition.
Give me some names. We're talking about guys with more than 5 losses against good or above average competition.
Two names come to mind: Travis Walker and Dominic Guinn- both heavies, but still good draw's in my book!
Terry Carruthers. Current Journeyman, exciting to watch.
Bert Cooper. (Genuine KO power, 47 just not, was knocking people out in 2010 still.)
Is Cooper still fighting??
Re: Journeymen with upside!
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
I know this is kind of an off-beat topic, but do you know of any journeymen with upside?
;D
Guys who have fought the who's who, lost them all, but still have the ability to turn it up once they get their act together?!?! And, showed enough promise to be considered decent opposition.
Give me some names. We're talking about guys with more than 5 losses against good or above average competition.
Two names come to mind: Travis Walker and Dominic Guinn- both heavies, but still good draw's in my book!
Terry Carruthers. Current Journeyman, exciting to watch.
Bert Cooper. (Genuine KO power, 47 just not, was knocking people out in 2010 still.)
Is Cooper still fighting??
His last fight was about a year ago today, he did take a few years off from 2002-2010.
Re: Journeymen with upside!
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
I know this is kind of an off-beat topic, but do you know of any journeymen with upside?
;D
Guys who have fought the who's who, lost them all, but still have the ability to turn it up once they get their act together?!?! And, showed enough promise to be considered decent opposition.
Give me some names. We're talking about guys with more than 5 losses against good or above average competition.
Two names come to mind: Travis Walker and Dominic Guinn- both heavies, but still good draw's in my book!
Terry Carruthers. Current Journeyman, exciting to watch.
Bert Cooper. (Genuine KO power, 47 just not, was knocking people out in 2010 still.)
Is Cooper still fighting??
His last fight was about a year ago today, he did take a few years off from 2002-2010.
Think Coops can come back to win a title? lololol....
;D
Re: Journeymen with upside!
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
I know this is kind of an off-beat topic, but do you know of any journeymen with upside?
;D
Guys who have fought the who's who, lost them all, but still have the ability to turn it up once they get their act together?!?! And, showed enough promise to be considered decent opposition.
Give me some names. We're talking about guys with more than 5 losses against good or above average competition.
Two names come to mind: Travis Walker and Dominic Guinn- both heavies, but still good draw's in my book!
Terry Carruthers. Current Journeyman, exciting to watch.
Bert Cooper. (Genuine KO power, 47 just not, was knocking people out in 2010 still.)
Is Cooper still fighting??
His last fight was about a year ago today, he did take a few years off from 2002-2010.
Think Coops can come back to win a title? lololol....
;D
Hey it only takes one shot.
But still, no lol.
Re: Journeymen with upside!
Julius Francis had a bit of a peak when he beat an undefeated Pele Reid, Danny Williams and also Scott welsh I think before being destroyed by Tyson and being a journeyman again.
Would Danny Williams now count as a journeyman?
Re: Journeymen with upside!
The fairly recent classic in the category would be Freddie Pendleton; started his career 12-12 and went on to win part of the lightweight title, be a top guy for quite awhile, and finish his career, over the hill and fighting up and coming guys.
Freddie Pendleton - Boxer
Re: Journeymen with upside!
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Originally Posted by
Master
Julius Francis had a bit of a peak when he beat an undefeated Pele Reid, Danny Williams and also Scott welsh I think before being destroyed by Tyson and being a journeyman again.
Would Danny Williams now count as a journeyman?
Now? Yes he is a JM, as he has lost 7 of his last 8, but he held the British and CommonW titles more than once, plus he fought for a world title.
Hard to define his mixed career.
Re: Journeymen with upside!
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Originally Posted by
Master
Julius Francis had a bit of a peak when he beat an undefeated Pele Reid, Danny Williams and also Scott welsh I think before being destroyed by Tyson and being a journeyman again.
Would Danny Williams now count as a journeyman?
Yup. Danny is a journeyman. Would we consider Holyfield as a journeyman as well??
Re: Journeymen with upside!
How about Sugar Boy Malinga? Fought a who's who of 90's Super Middleweights, mainly losing efforts but managed to pick up wins against Benn (OK may have been done at that point) and Robin Reid, relieving both of their WBC strap. Managed to lose the title between those fights to serial whinger Vincenzo Nardiello.
Re: Journeymen with upside!
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Memphis
How about Sugar Boy Malinga? Fought a who's who of 90's Super Middleweights, mainly losing efforts but managed to pick up wins against Benn (OK may have been done at that point) and Robin Reid, relieving both of their WBC strap. Managed to lose the title between those fights to serial whinger Vincenzo Nardiello.
Think Malinga can do it? I thought he retired too!!! lolol... ever since the Vince Phillips/Kostya Tyzsu fight, I kinda had my eye out for that odd journeyman.
;D
Re: Journeymen with upside!
Sherman Williams and Michael Sprott showed they had some upside with spirited efforts against Helenius.
Derrick Findley is another, just fought Curtis Stevens and gave him a tough fight, also gave hell to J'Leon Love the fight before that.
Findley doesn't seem to want to be a journeyman anymore and is trying to rise above it.
Lastly, I'd add Sam Soliman as he just beat Sturm, but tested positive for roids afterwards so idk bout his future
Re: Journeymen with upside!
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Originally Posted by
Memphis
How about Sugar Boy Malinga? Fought a who's who of 90's Super Middleweights, mainly losing efforts but managed to pick up wins against Benn (OK may have been done at that point) and Robin Reid, relieving both of their WBC strap. Managed to lose the title between those fights to serial whinger Vincenzo Nardiello.
Monte Barret.........
Quality heavyweight, always gave his best, and upset the odds a few times (Tua?)
Re: Journeymen with upside!
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Originally Posted by
Hulk
Sherman Williams and Michael Sprott showed they had some upside with spirited efforts against Helenius.
Derrick Findley is another, just fought Curtis Stevens and gave him a tough fight, also gave hell to J'Leon Love the fight before that.
Findley doesn't seem to want to be a journeyman anymore and is trying to rise above it.
Lastly, I'd add Sam Soliman as he just beat Sturm, but tested positive for roids afterwards so idk bout his future
Roids don't end careers anymore. Now, if you have loaded gloves, yea. But not Roids. A ban, but probably only for 12 months, max!
