Does anyone like these guys on here?
I hope they both create massive upsets in both their next fights.
Both undefeated.
Both with lots of heart.
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Does anyone like these guys on here?
I hope they both create massive upsets in both their next fights.
Both undefeated.
Both with lots of heart.
Im a mild fan of Garcia. Everything about him is above average but Im a huge fan of his ability to punch with his opponent and the timing on his left hook. Those two things he can do exceptionally well . It takes alot of balls and concentration to be able to keep your eyes open and punch with your opponent and not many fighters can do it. Marquez has mastered this as well, but it's not for everyone. As great as Floyd is, even he's unable to this. Garcia is far from a complete fighter but he does have a trait that not too many fighters have.
Ive never been a fan of Bradley though. His style doesn't appeal to me.
I feel bad for Bradley, if the Marquez fight goes how I expect he'll have had a pretty colossal fall from grace. Haven't ever really enjoyed watching him much though, except for his last fight naturally. When he's effective, he's pretty boring.
Garcia is a dangerous fighter, and I don't consider him a big underdog against Lucas. I don't think we've ever seen either man in a tear up like this will be, I lean towards Mattyhse more because he's got a solid workrate and a bit more variety. No idea who gets the better of exchanges in this one, looking forward to it.
Bradley is lucky to still have his 0. But that luck is coming to end. His style is made for a natural counter puncher like Marquez. I'm expecting Bradley to take a beating. A beating that I will enjoy watching.
I don't think Garcia winning would be some kind of big upset. This is a 50-50 fight to me
I think Bradley has actually achieved a hell of a lot - and despite a questionable decision vs pac (I thought he lost) - credit to him for being within 2-4 points (ish) of pac - what I mean is even though I thought it was 116-113 ish from memory - even to do that vs pac at a time when he was going through cotto etc inside the distance bradley must be pretty decent.
I really like him - would not mind seeing a W vs marquez - but I can't see this fight yet - never know when age will kick in on Juan Manuel
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Not a massive garcia fan - being pushed to the limite by judah at judah's time in his career makes me think he is fairly limited - the same could be said of bradley afterhis last fight but he does have a great career record and experience ever since he beat witter
Then again, judah beat lucas at this stage of his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by oakleyno1
I know garcia hasnt got a crowd pleasing style but he is winning.
And bradley is just a better real life version of rocky balboa that never quits. Gotta appreciate timothey.
good point about Judah - Perhaps he should be getting more credit for his fights vs garcia & lucus - probably one of the few as talented as floyd but just mentally fragileQuote:
Originally Posted by impThen again, judah beat lucas at this stage of his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by oakleyno1
I know garcia hasnt got a crowd pleasing style but he is winning.
And bradley is just a better real life version of rocky balboa that never quits. Gotta appreciate timothey.
Absolutely. I think Judah deserves alot of credit for his last few fights, he's really buckled down and made something of what he has left. He beat Lucas fair and square in my books, and with hindsight that's probably his best performance.
I've liked Tim from early on and think he's more of what the sport needs, a no nonsense fighting Champion who takes on all comers full of determination and drive with little bullshit flair and flashing lights for attention. That of course is a double edge sword in the big picture. It wasn't too long ago he was branded as "ducking Khan". Please! Khan is walking a career tight rope now...Bradley is fighting the greats. That said, I think Bradley lost his last two and came off as a bitter dude making excuses leading into Provodkin fight and after. He and Marquez make a solid style clash but its surprising to me how his last fight seems like "just a bad night" to many now. It says as much about Provo being looked at as a mere formality and not credited as it does Bradley always being stubborn, stuck between styles and loading up. That's not going to change.
Don't mind Garcia either. He's not a loud mouth, he's very skilled and though he came off like dirting up his shorts early with Matthysse build up he has stepped up. This is a fantastic fight between two plus sides of the sport. Thought about the Zab comparison also as I watched Judah pile on and take the last rounds vs Danny. Garcia learned in that one but Matthysse wasn't near the same point in career in fairness. Lucas was unknown and barely visible... out boxing a younger Judah early on I thought and finished it with Zab in survival mode. Garcia was established Champion with far far better comp, built up and losing late rounds to Judah.
Always have liked bradley dude brings it each and every time and I think bradley edged the provo fight on a pure points system, but he was the one way worse off...but ill have to root against him as he's fighting marquez. Danny don't care much for him think he got a lil bit of being in the right place at the right time luck and see lucas takin him out.
Bradley doesn't have any appeal going for him. Its unclear if he wants to be a bad guy or a good guy, he kinda plays both and in the middle at times.
Garcia should ditch his daddy, he loses fans because of his daddy.
I like Bradley because he showed against Provodnikov that he's tough as nails and is 100% genuine.
I hate Garcia, mainly due to his annoying loud ass father.
Plus the fact he's world champion and he's fighting Erik Morales every other fight... Get into it with the current fighters that might actually be consider risky.
Matthysse ends his hype.
I had only got round to watching Zab/ Lucas at the weekend and was curious due to the debate over the decision. I do think Zab won if not a draw, but only because Lucas started fairly slow. He was all body body body, but from the outside range, not really pressuring Zab till late and then came on strong but Zab held it together enough. More than wheat Lucas was banking on i guess ??? Zab has shown real balls in his last few fights (apart from the ironic Khan fight ;D)Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Bradley should have 2 losses on his record- losses to Povodnik and Pacqioua.
With that being said, Marquez with is new "strength and conditioning coach" (cough, cough) will not let him off of the hook the way Manny did. Marquez will pour it on and with power... and will be a more effective counter-puncher than Manny was.
I expect a late round stoppage...
With Garcia- Who says he is an underdog? This fight with Lucas Matthysse is very even. This is a step up for Garcia and if he wins it will PROVE that he is not just a great fighter, but an elite fighter- especially if he wins big. When I say win big, not just with a shocking punch-ko after Lucas was winning all of the rounds. But if it goes the distance, he has to win most of the rounds and get a knockdown or two.
Garcia is my pick. I like that kid. He has that "extra" that wills him to win. He doesn't have all of the physical gifts, but he has the mindset and a bit of punching power to win when it matters. His fight vs. Khan proved that he can fight against a more physically gifted and school boxer and still pull out a win.
Garcia is my fav fighter to watch these days outside of Deontay Wilder, Arreola and Pacman/Mayweather.
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