Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
Chump-ez Jr has a problem. hat has nothing to do with being in tremendous shape or not. Mentally he is just not there. NOt focused, not serious, a trumped-up son of an all time great.
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
beating vera proves nothing. vera is a bum.
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
I want to see GGG fight Chavez JR , great power v great chin.
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
JCCs last 6 opponents and the collective record over each of their last 6 fights read 34-2-0
He doesn't hide away from records.
I debate his seriousness though.
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
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Vendettos
JCCs last 6 opponents and the collective record over each of their last 6 fights read 34-2-0
He doesn't hide away from records.
I debate his seriousness though.
thats really trying to reach for the quality of his opponents. just because you have won a few of your previous fights doesnt mean that you are good or that those wins were even quality wins. sergio is the only good fighter he has faced and he got destroyed.
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
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powerpuncher
beating vera proves nothing. vera is a bum.
doesnt really matter, he fought hime once and "lost" lets see if it was coz he was out of shape or coz hes not as good
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
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powerpuncher
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
JCCs last 6 opponents and the collective record over each of their last 6 fights read 34-2-0
He doesn't hide away from records.
I debate his seriousness though.
thats really trying to reach for the quality of his opponents. just because you have won a few of your previous fights doesnt mean that you are good or that those wins were even quality wins. sergio is the only good fighter he has faced and he got destroyed.
Just because the PR on how great his opponents are/were, doesn't mean they aren't good.
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Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
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powerpuncher
beating vera proves nothing. vera is a bum.
Ive always said that about joe blow vera but dudes keep pumping him up like he's not.. lol
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
Vera is not a bum, he's really crude and a bit of an overachiever, but he beat Jr in the first fight at a handicap.
I don't doubt Chavez will win the rematch, he is a much bigger man who can punch, and he has to look good if he ever wants to be taken seriously in a big fight again. If it's at all similar to the first fight Jr may as well just retire.
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
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powerpuncher
beating vera proves nothing. vera is a bum.
Tell ya what I'd love to be ringside if you had the cojones to get in there with Bryan Vera and repeat that statement. ;D
Anyways Chavez did NOT beat Bryan Vera he got his ass kicked Chavez got a diabolical decision. Chavez will need to be 100% mentally & physically to genuinely beat Bryan. So far in his career he's just leeched of his fathers name which got him wins he didnt deserve
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
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FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
powerpuncher
beating vera proves nothing. vera is a bum.
Ive always said that about joe blow vera but dudes keep pumping him up like he's not.. lol
Ok lets be fair here If as you guys say Vera is a bum then what does that make Chavez jr?????? Bryan Vera kicked his fat lazy ass all over that ring & ended up getting shafted.
So far Chavez jr has live4d off hid Daddies name & one lucky punch against Martinez that made him look decent to some that forget he'd had his ass handed to him for11 rounds
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
If vera listens to shields and follows instructions to the letter instead of the breaking focus like last time, The decision could be wide. Last time, Jr. Was out of shape, but vera was boxing circles around him too. Only chance Jr. Had of really pulling off a win is when vera was trying to show he could be tough guy too and display heart. The tragedy in all of this is that vera doesn't have power that counterbalances Chavez's weight/size advantage. Should be the first Jr, robbery without godfather jose if vera outboxes him again
Re: Chavez Jr in tremendous shape.. Vera in deep trouble
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Originally Posted by
powerpuncher
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
JCCs last 6 opponents and the collective record over each of their last 6 fights read 34-2-0
He doesn't hide away from records.
I debate his seriousness though.
thats really trying to reach for the quality of his opponents. just because you have won a few of your previous fights doesnt mean that you are good or that those wins were even quality wins. sergio is the only good fighter he has faced and he got destroyed.
Chavez definitely didn't get destroyed. Hell of a fight. Chavez about finished Sergio in the last round.