Wlad would easily beat Stiverne
I am not trying to slate the new champion and well done to him knocking out Arreola last weekend. But looking at that performance it's clear that he is too small, he doesn't punch enough and he has a very low guard. He also fights mostly on the back foot and is looking for the counter and I don't see how somebody that much smaller would be effective doing that. I think he could last the distance but I don't see him being Wlad at all. I think he should fight Wilder next, that would be a better fight but again the size difference could be a factor. I know Stiverne knocked out David Price in the amatuers but Price can get knocked out.
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It would be a good fight and intriguing if Stiv can land on Wlad's chin.
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Disagree, I don't think it would be close and I don't see Stiverne getting close at all to his chin.
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Bermane had a great fight with Arreola he landed hard, he followed up, and he closed the show.
I did notice that Bermane liked waiting out Arreola. B would move against the ropes, absorb an attack and then fire back once Cris was tired, or if there was an opening. Those openings won't be available the same way vs Wlad or vs Wilder. Arreola didn't move his head much and he was easy to find to the body...that's going to be considerably different than Wlad or Wilder who don't have big beer bellies on them, there will just be less area to hit.
I hope the guy continues to be a strong tough fighter, but I also hope he makes a unification bout soon.
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El Kabong
Bermane had a great fight with Arreola he landed hard, he followed up, and he closed the show.
I did notice that Bermane liked waiting out Arreola. B would move against the ropes, absorb an attack and then fire back once Cris was tired, or if there was an opening. Those openings won't be available the same way vs Wlad or vs Wilder. Arreola didn't move his head much and he was easy to find to the body...that's going to be considerably different than Wlad or Wilder who don't have big beer bellies on them, there will just be less area to hit.
I hope the guy continues to be a strong tough fighter, but I also hope he makes a unification bout soon.
Those tactics for sure wont work vs those two. I think hes too slow to do anything really, hes got power but with no size or speed hes not going to keep that belt for long.
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unbder wlads rules it would be a carbon copy of the rest of his defenses
in america it might be interesting
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Ha, I hate to say it but he doesn't deserve a world title, we criticize Wlad but Stiverne will not last 3 with either Klitschko. Vitali wants it back he can have it back inside a few short months.
Klitschko would do him harm. Imagine if it was Wlad or Vitali that had him against the ropes that many times?
Joke champion, at least he has 15 minutes. He should avoid Klitschko, Wilder and Fury.
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the only way stiverne wins is just going straight forward and trying to knock him out. he cant fight the same fight as he did against arreola because wlad will just keep him on the end of his jab.
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Ha, I hate to say it but he doesn't deserve a world title, we criticize Wlad but Stiverne will not last 3 with either Klitschko. Vitali wants it back he can have it back inside a few short months.
Klitschko would do him harm. Imagine if it was Wlad or Vitali that had him against the ropes that many times?
Joke champion, at least he has 15 minutes. He should avoid Klitschko, Wilder and Fury.
Stiverne would knock Fury spark out. Fury wouldn't be getting up from a Stiverne right hand.
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I'm interested in its historical significance but from a style perspective its a cautious safety first fighter verses a possum. It could prove to be about as exciting as watching the mating ritual of dragon flies on top of pond scum on the National Geo channel. Or because of that we could get a shocker with one or both approaching this fight differently. After all, it would be for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world.
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I say IF Wilder can take the belt from Stiverne, and I think he can, then we would have a heavyweight unification bout worth getting excited for.
Truthfully, I'd like to see Wilder take on a good world class opponent (Chisora, Thompson, even Charr) first then face Stiverne.
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It would be a good fight and intriguing if Stiv can land on Wlad's chin.
Have to disagree, Sir. I think Wlad jabs him into "the hell with it land", then right hands him into "thank God, I have a way out land".
Sorry, I think Stiverne will have a short reign, unless he has a secret weapon we haven't seen.
Just my opinion and I've been wrong lots and lots.
I think you are right but Stiv throws sneaky fast punches and he could land them and cause Wlad to hold.
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Stiverne is fast, and to be quite honest I am 100% certain Bermane would go past 3 vs Wlad or Vitali....Bermane has a good chin. Arreola was throwing big clubbing punches and Bermane took them...now that's not the same kind of power Wlad has, but I think Bermane will last until the halfway point if not a little after. Bermane has awkward punches, he's got a curve to them that doesn't take speed off of them but will make them land where it'll mess up a fighter's balance. I doubt Wlad will have too tough a time with Bermane, but he will need to be wary of the power Stiverne carries.
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WBC said that Stiverne has to fight Wilder next.
