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... he just had to announce his retirement on the eve of the Tyson ear biting incident. What a prick.
But, Tyson was a better fighter and champion in his prime than Holyfield ever was. The Tyson he fought was a coked up jail-bird who spent more time in the bedroom with whores snorting coke and having orgies than he did sparing and training.
evander HALLELLUIA holyfield couldnt stop fucking his Holy Whore-iors, and went bankrupt with about 7 wives and 16 kids. Praise Jesus and Pass the Pork Chops! Amen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Holyfeild was one of the biggest hypocrites to ever have a public stage. He came in the ring singing about God and such, but in private he was nothing more than a sleazy man whore just like Tyson. I love watching both men fight. They are both exciting fighters with a lot to offer by way of entertainment value. Tyson would've beat Holyfield if they would have fought in the early 90's like they we're suppose to. Not sure he would've KO'd him, but he would have won. The fact that holyfeild is just NOW officially retiring shows how pathetic his money managment was. This goes for so many fighters though and it is very sad. It's quite hard for me to understand how someone can earn over $100 million and be bankrupt. It truly boggles my mind.
I agree whole heartedly. He went in the ring trying to act like a hot shot priest or holy man or something, and all he did was marry, cheat, make babies, marry, chdeat, make babies, headbutt, headbutt, headbutt, marry, cheat, make babies etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chet Ripley
Lol. As opposed to the biting his ear off. Something odd about a guy claimed to show no grace because he reminds people of the grace displayed by Tyson in a game he gave his life to. Bit of a cheap shot but its not as if he bit the mans ear off.
War Holy. A first ballet hall of famer.
damn straight, top 8 HW's and GREATEST CRUISERWEIGHT OF ALL TIME!Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Evander Holyfield was never a heavyweight, that was Evan Fields.
Evander was a phenomenal cruiser.
The luxury and ease with which fans judge a man outside of the ring is numbing. Any of you gents want to submit your own bank stubs and court dealing for scrutiny :p Tyson blah blah woulda coulda shoulda...well, he didn't. Holyfield hung on too long and should have gone after arguably beating the man wookie Valuev. He was every bit a heavyweight in competition and what he layed out in the ring against an era of heavyweights we only wish we had today.
Agree 100% Spicoli. Holy was the greatest Cruiser ever and an ATG top ten heavyweight. I'm a big fan of both Mike and Evander, and think both had their struggles n mistakes like the rest of us. While Tyson was more dominant during his reign, he benefitted from a weaker heavyweight division, where Evander fought all do the best from the second best Heavy class of all time. Head to head Evander beats Mike every time, which isn't to say that Mike is a bum, just that Evander was made to beat guys like Tyson n was the better fighter overall. While he had women issues n stayed around too long, Evander was a class act in my opinion n one if the greatest warriors to ever step in the ring.
I swear Mike Tyson is like the Paul Bunyan of HWs. Every year the legend gets bigger and exaggerated. "Mike TYson in his prime would and should..............blah blah blah....... he could defeat any HW in history.....blah blah.........if only he never left Kevin Rooney.....blah blah...."
Its amazing, its like lore surrounding the Loch ness Monster. Whats lost is that these two actually fought..it happened..twice! All the excuses about Tyson being shot and done etc. and ignored is the exact same was being said of Holyfield. He was picked by more than one publication to be KO'D in 1 round ffs. It all suited Tyson after and only after he got his arse kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
He doesn't appear to like judging dunk contests either:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aixYbxHgHE
Absolutely agree on all counts. From the Tyson fans there has been a lot of major history revisionism. Holyfield was considered to be a shot fighter or close to being shot going into the 1st fight especially after gassing out in his 3rd fight with Bowe and looking lackluster in the Bobby Cyz fight, and many people were concern about the man's health and well being. Not only that, but Tyson had just regained his aura of invincibility after dispatching Bruno and Seldon in short work for their alphabet titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliIts amazing, its like lore surrounding the Loch ness Monster. Whats lost is that these two actually fought..it happened..twice! All the excuses about Tyson being shot and done etc. and ignored is the exact same was being said of Holyfield. He was picked by more than one publication to be KO'D in 1 round ffs. It all suited Tyson after and only after he got his arse kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Mike Tyson was CRUSHING grown men, and champions at that, before he was 25. He won his first championship, beating grown ass men, by the time he was 21.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
Holyfield unified two divisions, and even when shot to shit he still managed to beat Sasquatch more convincingly than Haye only to get screwed overQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaMike Tyson was CRUSHING grown men, and champions at that, before he was 25. He won his first championship, beating grown ass men, by the time he was 21.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod