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They're not exactly face first brawlers.
What do you not like about them? They have talent but waste it all on food, money and women?
Gamboa is ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Different strokes for different folks. I actually enjoy their style of fighting a lot. I don't understand why for some people fighters should be all action brawlers. It's the "sweet science"...and if some people can't appreciate that oh well. The thing for me that is frustrating about many Cuban fighters is that they can't maximize their potential when they come to the states. I am fully aware of the politics, etc. But many of them simply lose the focus and discipline when they start training here. Rigo has been one of the exceptions...and i think aside from Floyd....his combination of skill set and athleticism is pretty unmatched.
Well, I had people over and most are just casual sports fans and they were bored as hell. Whether you are a fan of that style or not, you cannot argue the fact that it was not PPV worthy. It's making me real hesitant on buying mayweather vs Maidana
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Originally Posted by Maravilla2012Gamboa is ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
He is when he gets hurt.
If people are expecting the next Gavilan, Napoles, Parent, Tunero, Ramos or Rodriguez to show up on a boat in Florida you are in for a long wait. When those guys defected they were poor and starving and came to a boxing era full of the poor and starving.
For better or for worse this is a different era and the Cubans also know it. It’s a softer and more coddled one. Guys like Rigo and Gamboa most likely never crossed until they had a seven figure contract. Super stars before their first pro fight. Once they arrive here they quickly find out how risk and reward is applied in this atmosphere. The decadent life style makes them lazy. Look at Perez. He was supposed to accomplish what Felix Savon would have done had he turned pro. And Gomez before him. Another talented guy that turned into Audley Harrison once he got spoiled and wrapped up in all the glitter.
Now Rigo is one Cuban who has overachieved and may be the best fighter in boxing but may be to good for his own good. It will be interesting to see what he does after his next fight when his Arum contract ends.
When it was a blend of Russian and Cuban, I liked it just fine, but once they went back to 100% Cuban it became less exciting for me.
I dont know. Barthelemy and Quillin are fun to watch. Luis Ortis is also entertaining and Perez can be when he lets his hands go. I also like Lara and Rigo because they are so slick.
I think way too much is made/expected from the often lofty amateur experience. It becomes a marketing tag and there seems to rarely be a definitive line of separation.
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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Good points
Looking at it from the fans point of view I agree with you, there have been some big failures, Harrison comes to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Looking at it from the promoters or trainers point of view I see high calibre and long experience as an amateur as a useful tool as to where I want to put my time and money. I think a long and successful amateur career is a strong indicator of how a fighter is going to perform in the pros and probably helps promoters and trainers sleep better.
Sorry, a rambling post, but I was sorting it out for myself as I went along.