Robert Garcia, a boxing genius? Ask Cuellar.

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09-12-2014, 07:46 PM
beenKOed

Robert Garcia, a boxing genius? Ask Cuellar.

I admit to doing a little trolling. I don't think Garcia is a genius, but he is close.
He's becoming known for getting the best from his fighters and for being equal to anyone at reading fighters in the gym and across the ring.
Cuellar had the perfect fight plan for Lopez. I didn't enjoy seeing Lopez slumped face down on the canvas but watching Cuellar get it done was good to see.
I'm hoping Garcia can help Maidana put on another great effort against Floyd tomorrow.
09-12-2014, 08:19 PM
p4pking

Re: Robert Garcia, a boxing genius? Ask Cuellar.

Im sure he's a very good trainer, but that result means next to squat. JM Lopez had no business being in the ring with a good fighter so shortly after his last defeat, the guy is a ruin. Would like to see Cuellar again, he looks good, but it's impossible to take much away from that.
09-12-2014, 08:55 PM
beenKOed

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Im sure he's a very good trainer, but that result means next to squat. JM Lopez had no business being in the ring with a good fighter so shortly after his last defeat, the guy is a ruin. Would like to see Cuellar again, he looks good, but it's impossible to take much away from that.

So that wasn't the best way to get Lopez out of there?
09-12-2014, 09:48 PM
powerpuncher

Re: Robert Garcia, a boxing genius? Ask Cuellar.

I feel that Garcia will soon take over as the best trainer in boxing. The only trainer right now that I would for sure say is better is nacho. Other than that, a case could be made that he is next best.
09-12-2014, 10:20 PM
p4pking

Re: Robert Garcia, a boxing genius? Ask Cuellar.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Im sure he's a very good trainer, but that result means next to squat. JM Lopez had no business being in the ring with a good fighter so shortly after his last defeat, the guy is a ruin. Would like to see Cuellar again, he looks good, but it's impossible to take much away from that.

So that wasn't the best way to get Lopez out of there?

Anyone with a punch would have done the same is all I meant. Lopez is a shot fighter who can't defend himself anymore.
09-12-2014, 11:04 PM
Master

Re: Robert Garcia, a boxing genius? Ask Cuellar.

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

I feel that Garcia will soon take over as the best trainer in boxing. The only trainer right now that I would for sure say is better is nacho. Other than that, a case could be made that he is next best.

What about Roach?
09-12-2014, 11:46 PM
beenKOed

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

I feel that Garcia will soon take over as the best trainer in boxing. The only trainer right now that I would for sure say is better is nacho. Other than that, a case could be made that he is next best.

What about Roach?

They're all good, and I wasn't saying that Garcia is the best. I was saying that Garcia does some things as well as anyone.
09-13-2014, 02:55 AM
powerpuncher

Re: Robert Garcia, a boxing genius? Ask Cuellar.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

I feel that Garcia will soon take over as the best trainer in boxing. The only trainer right now that I would for sure say is better is nacho. Other than that, a case could be made that he is next best.

What about Roach?

Roach is very overrated. I honestly don't think he has done much for his fighters and that includes Pac. Pac just got on a roll and roach was given too much credit for it.
09-13-2014, 02:08 PM
Master

Re: Robert Garcia, a boxing genius? Ask Cuellar.

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

I feel that Garcia will soon take over as the best trainer in boxing. The only trainer right now that I would for sure say is better is nacho. Other than that, a case could be made that he is next best.

What about Roach?

Roach is very overrated. I honestly don't think he has done much for his fighters and that includes Pac. Pac just got on a roll and roach was given too much credit for it.

I think good coaches attract good fighters.
09-13-2014, 03:50 PM
ykdadamaja

Re: Robert Garcia, a boxing genius? Ask Cuellar.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

I admit to doing a little trolling. I don't think Garcia is a genius, but he is close.
He's becoming known for getting the best from his fighters and for being equal to anyone at reading fighters in the gym and across the ring.
Cuellar had the perfect fight plan for Lopez. I didn't enjoy seeing Lopez slumped face down on the canvas but watching Cuellar get it done was good to see.
I'm hoping Garcia can help Maidana put on another great effort against Floyd tomorrow.

He has certainly tapped into the Oxnard spirit. Made popular by Fernando Vargas, and started by Robert's father.

Oxnard is for Latinos and boxing as Kronk Detroit and New York is for African American fighters and Wild Card is for West LA and International fighters. All with their particular brand of teaching and fight philosophy.

Such a shame that Florida fighters don't have that "place"... with so much talent down their from African Americans, Caribbean folks and Latinos from Cuba and Peurto Rico, we would have hoped that South Florida, at least, would have something more to offer to the fight game.