What can GGG's next opponent learn from Martin Murray?

What are your thoughts: ?

1. It looked like whenever Murray backed GGG up/threw 3 or 4-punch combinations, that GGG sort of hesitated/froze. In those moments, GGG did not look too hard to hit.

2. Whenever Murray stopped moving and went straight back to the ropes, GGG just let a barrage loose.

3. Whenever Murray's gloves were up around his face and he was in a defensive shell, GGG blasted the sh*t out of him.

4. Whenever Murray used some lateral movement/circled to his left, it temporarily stalled/stifled GGG's attack, and took him out of the danger zone for a few moments.

That GGG is human and that they need to get a bigger ring so they can try and outbox him.

GGG does not counter punch, like ever. He either defends or attacks.

GGGs reactions are below world class. But his chin/power/offensive technique are tremendous.

If you don't have the punching power to make him respect you (like Lemieux) then he's just going to walk in and maul you. He throws too many punches and hits too hard to think you're going to outfight him or outrun him. You need a guy like Ward who has the speed and skill to hit him from the outside and fie him up and nullify him on the inside.

totally agree with all yous guys. GGG IMO is not what he seems. He can be outboxed, outfoxed, and/or knocked the fuck out by an aggressive warrior. Murray was told after Round 8: "You gotta knock him out! Hit him! Hit him!' but Murray didn't fight like a desperate wild animal who needed a KO. GGG will eat guys up who fight like that.

Lemieux would get smashed into mash.

I agree with Brockton. It's exactly the same thing with Abraham. Either attack or defend. It amazed me how much Murray and Smith allowed them self's to be trapped in the ropes. For all the other decent things they were doing, to literally throw it all way by like that, is just absurd.

Yes both were incredibly brave but bloody foolish.

And for the record, I still think AA gives GGG his toughest nights work if not beats him. He has better defence, faster hands and a commanding jab.

I also thought that he didn't show that he knows how to fight in clinches. Someone like Ward, who uses the clinch to his advantage frequently, would give him problems.

Another thing is that his defense is underrated. He doesn't get hit cleanly often. His use of range is very good too.

He also makes adjustments during the course of the fight well. Some of the things that Murray did well in the beginning of the fight, GGG took away from him later in the fight.

Don't sign the contract.

Only a complete fighter who is elite will beat GGG. Think a prime Hop or Ward type of fighter. Maybe a really fast, slick fighter will get the decision. Maybe. GGG is phenomenal at cutting the ring off and very good defensively for such an aggressive fighter.

The tactics that Hop used vs. Tito, where he moved laterally and constantly made Tito reset his feet while boxing behind the jab, are best suited for GGG. Even then, the opponent will need to be durable and have a GREAT chin and GREAT stamina to pull it off. It's like saying that all someone has to do to beat Floyd (after Castillo and Maidana fights) is to be physical with him and maul him for 12 rounds. Easier said than done because GGG and Floyd also have votes in those scenarios/fights.

GGG isn't an unskilled, plodding fighter who swings for the fences constantly. He is a highly skilled, VERY strong, aggressive fighter who puts on stifling/exhausting pressure when he fights. He will be very tough to beat and it will take a great fighter, fighting the perfect fight, to do it.

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Too much information.

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Run. lol...

I'm surprised to see people saying GGGs defense is underrated. I think it is getting worse. Repeatedly in this fight he was hit before he saw the punch, usually the right hook. Sometimes the jab. A good defensive fighter gets hit but they see the punch.

I think GGG is getting close to making the classic mistake of falling in love with his power. I think his offense is dynamic but his defense is getting significantly worse.

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Only a complete fighter who is elite will beat GGG. Think a prime Hop or Ward type of fighter. Maybe a really fast, slick fighter will get the decision. Maybe. GGG is phenomenal at cutting the ring off and very good defensively for such an aggressive fighter.

The tactics that Hop used vs. Tito, where he moved laterally and constantly made Tito reset his feet while boxing behind the jab, are best suited for GGG. Even then, the opponent will need to be durable and have a GREAT chin and GREAT stamina to pull it off. It's like saying that all someone has to do to beat Floyd (after Castillo and Maidana fights) is to be physical with him and maul him for 12 rounds. Easier said than done because GGG and Floyd also have votes in those scenarios/fights.

GGG isn't an unskilled, plodding fighter who swings for the fences constantly. He is a highly skilled, VERY strong, aggressive fighter who puts on stifling/exhausting pressure when he fights. He will be very tough to beat and it will take a great fighter, fighting the perfect fight, to do it.

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Agreed. Obviously he's not a slick guy and can be hit, but it's tough to know how much that will work against him until he's actually been given a run. It's not as though Murray was taking rounds or looking like he could win, and he's a fine boxer as well lets not forget. All of his best work in the fight basically just seemed to allow him some breathing room, for all we know Golovkin has another couple of gears if he's actually in deep.