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I think if AJ stops Johnson we can safely say he's the real deal in terms of punching power but for me his chin will remain untested against a big puncher.
http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/news/31663/9845057
Yes Johnson is just a steady durable pro , however if Joshua KO's him it will be impressive.
However like Fury we haven't seen him get hit by a big puncher at top level yet.
The guy he banged out on Saturday has gone 12 rounds with Briggs, 10 rounds with 21-0 (19 ko's) Charles Martin and 8 rounds with Molina - who is fighting Wilder next - in the past year.
I watched a vid on IFL where old Kingpin was kicking off with the crowd in Birmingham. Certainly can talk a good game
I don't think they'll be much wrong with Joshua's beard. We've seen him go over in the ams and get up blazing back
There's a difference between being chinny and terrified of being hit. Joshua has a confident spiteful streak in him, something that guys like Price are lacking
I dont think its even so much the punch resistance of Joshua but can he actually fight back over the distance in the pros. Hes getting bulkier muscle wise and thats all going to burn energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Anthony Joshua looks like the real deal, but he's got to feel more comfortable in the ring, he's so tense in the shoulders and upper body. Stamina will be a bigger issue for him than chin IMO. He just needs to loosen up, relax a bit...not to the point where he's not focused, but just to the point where he can roll with a punch. The stiffer the boxer the more energy they burn....also being stiff doesn't make hitting the target easier at all. When you're stiff your opponent can time you better, they can see your punches coming better. Kevin Johnson is a heck of a boxer, very crafty...not active enough to really scare me for Joshua but he can hit and not get hit good enough that it'll give Joshua a ton of troubles if he just goes gunning for a KO. Kevin Johnson is a fighter you have to incrementally break down and nobody has done that yet.
Best of luck to AJ, I actually don't mind him too much for a British fighter. Hopefully he stays humble and affable.
Here's the working link
Kevin Johnson can test Anthony Joshua says Glenn McCrory | Boxing News | Sky Sports
For all the bulk and muscle he threw this punch totally relaxed and fuck me it was a thumping right hand :cool:
KO at 8.24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3iKGA-zy_g
Johnson rips into AJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT85okKM8VM
Joshua could probably look dangerous for about 6 rounds against someone like Johnson but after that his punches are going to be pushed. If and when Johnson feels Joshua tiring he may change the habit of a lifetime and turn it up. Its an excellent opportunity for Johnson to make himself relevant again and hopefully he tries to take it with both hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
This is a ridiculous jump in class just like Price with Thompson and Haye with Thompson also.
I think Joshua needed some fighters would come and actually try to fight back and make him work like Brian Minto and Sherman Williams. He hasnt even been made to fight at a pace for the few rounds hes been getting so far. Its very much his stamina and all the weight lifting hes doing is going to be his undoing and after this fight Hearn will say they are going back to the drawing board and review his training and probably change trainers altogether.
He looks stiff and tense now, wait till hes in there with Johnson.
Joshua could probably look dangerous for about 6 rounds against someone like Johnson but after that his punches are going to be pushed. If and when Johnson feels Joshua tiring he may change the habit of a lifetime and turn it up. Its an excellent opportunity for Johnson to make himself relevant again and hopefully he tries to take it with both hands.
This is a ridiculous jump in class just like Price with Thompson and Haye with Thompson also.
I think Joshua needed some fighters would come and actually try to fight back and make him work like Brian Minto and Sherman Williams. He hasnt even been made to fight at a pace for the few rounds hes been getting so far. Its very much his stamina and all the weight lifting hes doing is going to be his undoing and after this fight Hearn will say they are going back to the drawing board and review his training and probably change trainers altogether.
He looks stiff and tense now, wait till hes in there with Johnson.[/QUOTE]
It is a big step up in class, and I said from the start of his pro career that the most difficult thing with Joshua is how to match him and how quickly to bring him on.
However, I don't think they have any choice because of the way he's smashing people out. If he beats Johnson, there's no going back then, he will be moved along even quicker. He hasn't got the same experience, but he's the same age as Fury, and I think it's time to push him on.
Johnson can give it the big 'un in the ring on Saturday night, but I firmly believe he's going the same way as the rest have so far. Yeah , he may last a round or two more because of his ring knowhow, but I do believe Joshua will KO him in no more than 6 rounds.
Joshua can bang big time and consequently is a threat to anyone. Yeah , he needs to be chin checked, and Yeah with his frame we need to see if Stamina might be an issue similarly to Bruno, but what's he to do ? stand there and get tagged to satisfy everyone's curiousity?
I think within 12-18 months , he's fighting for a World title, and whether he wins it depends on which champ he's challenging.
It is a big step up in class, and I said from the start of his pro career that the most difficult thing with Joshua is how to match him and how quickly to bring him on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
However, I don't think they have any choice because of the way he's smashing people out. If he beats Johnson, there's no going back then, he will be moved along even quicker. He hasn't got the same experience, but he's the same age as Fury, and I think it's time to push him on.
Johnson can give it the big 'un in the ring on Saturday night, but I firmly believe he's going the same way as the rest have so far. Yeah , he may last a round or two more because of his ring knowhow, but I do believe Joshua will KO him in no more than 6 rounds.
Joshua can bang big time and consequently is a threat to anyone. Yeah , he needs to be chin checked, and Yeah with his frame we need to see if Stamina might be an issue similarly to Bruno, but what's he to do ? stand there and get tagged to satisfy everyone's curiousity?
I think within 12-18 months , he's fighting for a World title, and whether he wins it depends on which champ he's challenging.[/QUOTE]
Its ok to say he has no more available opponents to push him and they have no choice but lets be fair, they havent put him in with any live opponents who still have ambition. Even a not very skilled or particularly dangerous fighter, just some opponents with only a 1 or 2 losses who will try to make a name for themselves and make him work harder for his stoppages. Hearn should have a list of opponents ready to go and be fighting every month or 3 weeks if they are just going to fall over in the first few rounds.
All of a sudden hes up against someone he wont hit clean who also has power when he decides to use it and stamina. If Joshua doesnt stop him within the first half hes in very deep water.
Hughie Fury has just fought someone who is better than anyone Joshua has faced and potentially more dangerous than Johnson. For all the criticism aimed at the Furys they have progressed Tyson and Hughie gradually with no silly jumps in class. Its just a big risk to go from journeymen who cant get out of the 3rd to someone whos almost certainly going to take him 10 rounds.
Johnson win or lose makes me laugh , he has a good chin and that's it , low work rate , light puncher , limited boxing ability.
If he wins it wont be because he is good , it will be because Joshua is a paper tiger.
[/QUOTE]Its ok to say he has no more available opponents to push him and they have no choice but lets be fair, they havent put him in with any live opponents who still have ambition. Even a not very skilled or particularly dangerous fighter, just some opponents with only a 1 or 2 losses who will try to make a name for themselves and make him work harder for his stoppages. Hearn should have a list of opponents ready to go and be fighting every month or 3 weeks if they are just going to fall over in the first few rounds.
All of a sudden hes up against someone he wont hit clean who also has power when he decides to use it and stamina. If Joshua doesnt stop him within the first half hes in very deep water.
Hughie Fury has just fought someone who is better than anyone Joshua has faced and potentially more dangerous than Johnson. For all the criticism aimed at the Furys they have progressed Tyson and Hughie gradually with no silly jumps in class. Its just a big risk to go from journeymen who cant get out of the 3rd to someone whos almost certainly going to take him 10 rounds.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if Rudenko is potentially better than Johnson, and I'm not going to rip Hughie Fury because I think he's coming along great, nothing but positives for him .
The point is Joshua is destroying everybody he gets in with, he's not giving Hearn much choice, and I think he NEEDS THIS . When he won the Olympic title, I didn't rate him that much, I thought he lost against Savon and Cammarelle, but the rapidity of his improvement means he needs bigger and bigger goals.
Ps. I'm not very savvy with these quotes bollocks, but I'm trying not to make each post a mile long! :)
Are you not just pressing the reply with quote option dirctly under each post?
With regards Johnson and Rudenko, Rudenko is tough and has stamina and its quite conceivable hed outwork Johnson if they fought and I said he was more dangerous than Johnson because he is a tough aggressive fighter whereas Johnson is a tough defensive fighter.
Look guys Joshua has not put a foot wrong so far , why is anyone negative about him ?
Let swait and see how it pans out before we judge him.
Im not judging him per se but his managements choice of opponents. Its like they are assuming he has everything he needs and doesnt need to learn anything and are just building a fan base rather than a good fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al