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Jewish fighter: Can't say I was privileged to see footage of Benny Leonard. But boxing historians to magazines makes a case that Benny Leonard would have been a champion in any era.
My one time speaking with the late Bert Sugar was pure joy. Name a fighter and he'd tell you things that never made it to the media. Sugar convinced me while drinking a beer with him at Rocky Graziano's pub that Benny was one of the best fighters ever.
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Puerto Rican fighter:
Herbert Lewis Hardwick. The "Cocoa Kid"
Born in Mayagüez, Puerto Rico. The only Hispanic in what was called "Black Murderers Row" Fought at welter and middle and had fought close to 250 times. Like the others in his group he was forced to fight all the others and never got his due.
Herbert Lewis Hardwick. The "Cocoa Kid"
Gr8 pick. I'll have to check this guy out- not familiar with him
Wilfredo Gomez! The Bazooka! Both hands were lethal, p4p one of the biggest bangers ever!
I like the sound of him will check him out what weight was he again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Featherweight and I think also super bantam. His fights with Zarate, Pintor and of course Salvador Sanchez are legendary.
Good fighter, but Salvador Sanchez whooped his azz from pillar to post. When Gomez bravely endured the 1st round thrashing- Sanchez turned master boxer-until Gomez faded-then Sanchez completed the beatdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI like the sound of him will check him out what weight was he again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
That was not a good fight IMO to call Gomez a great. He was-but not against Salvador.
They sat Sanchez was sublime and a true great. These fighters came just before I became obsessed with boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeGood fighter, but Salvador Sanchez whooped his azz from pillar to post. When Gomez bravely endured the 1st round thrashing- Sanchez turned master boxer-until Gomez faded-then Sanchez completed the beatdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI like the sound of him will check him out what weight was he again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
That was not a good fight IMO to call Gomez a great. He was-but not against Salvador.
Watch Gomez vs Zarate. The result of that fight still makes me tear up but Gomez was on his game that night. His fight with Lupe Pintor is something to see as well.
Fritzie Zivic, Croatian, from a fighting family. All five brothers fought; I believe two went to the Olympics. At 5' 10" he was a tall welter and at one point he suffered an illness that laid him up a year. It is generally accepted that many of his 65 losses were 'business'.
Known today as only a dirty fighter he was a consummate pro that could dominate a fight with his jab, his right hand, body punching or inside skills. And he was never DQ'd.
Yeah but we're talking Salvador Sanchez, who also beat the shit out of two other HOFers in Nelson and Lopez.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeGood fighter, but Salvador Sanchez whooped his azz from pillar to post. When Gomez bravely endured the 1st round thrashing- Sanchez turned master boxer-until Gomez faded-then Sanchez completed the beatdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI like the sound of him will check him out what weight was he again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
That was not a good fight IMO to call Gomez a great. He was-but not against Salvador.
23 years old when he died, 44-1, knocked out 3 future Hall of Famers.
Jewish fighters were tough in the 19 hundreds from 1901 till about 1940 there were some tough sons of b******
Yeah. There were some decent Jewish fighters in recent years. Dana Rosenblatt was good, Yuri Foreman was decent, so was Roman Greenberg before he quit.
The Jews figured out the money was better on the promoter/manager side of the business.
How about Cuban? I've always loved kid gavilans style. It's just so fun to watch. He fights like a poor man's Ray Robinson which isn't an insult.
QUOTE=powerpuncher;1339898]How about Cuban? I've always loved kid gavilans style. It's just so fun to watch. He fights like a poor man's Ray Robinson which isn't an insult.[/QUOTE]
Jose Napoles.
Exactly!! LMAO- not a good fight to tell someone of Gomez' greatness!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerYeah but we're talking Salvador Sanchez, who also beat the shit out of two other HOFers in Nelson and Lopez.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeGood fighter, but Salvador Sanchez whooped his azz from pillar to post. When Gomez bravely endured the 1st round thrashing- Sanchez turned master boxer-until Gomez faded-then Sanchez completed the beatdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI like the sound of him will check him out what weight was he again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
That was not a good fight IMO to call Gomez a great. He was-but not against Salvador.
23 years old when he died, 44-1, knocked out 3 future Hall of Famers.
Forgot about Yuri Forman- good pick for modern day.
@ Master- I didn't know about Sanchez until I went to my 1st boxing hall of fame 2008 I think. Just sitting at Grazis pub (Rocky Graziano) listening to him, Bert Sugar, Angelo Dundee, Lou Duva, Manny Steward talk ...man, memories!, Oh, I digress LOL! After that I got some Salvador online.
Did You know Roy Jones Jr calls him one of his fav of all time to watch.
Please- watch Sanchez vs Gomez- even when he had Gomez hurt- he patiently walked him down, calculate which punches to throw- truly a head of his time and a hell of a loss to boxing-to die so young.