1964 Cassius Clay vs 1974 Muhammad Ali

I feel "that" (mwahaha) Clay dances ringlets and circles around the confused Ali. The lashing left jab vs the "no idea what to do next" Rope-a-Dope nonsense is the perfect strategy. @Bill Paxtom

Bill when you're back just tone down the 'cruelty' factor a bit on Ali. No gloating over Parkinson's or brain damage from hundreds of left hooks. No stories about Ali. Stick to ~facts~ and 'you' will be °°°alright°°°. Your posts are incredible when you deal with the venues, attendances, referees, scorecards, Trainers, handlers, promoters, and background info and biographical information and personal data. There has NEVER been such a thorough and dedicated poster on this forum.

Bill just hold back on the slander, libel, and defamation on Ali and youll be OK.

There have been many way more thorough, dedicated and knowledgeable posters than Bill I am afraid. There still are and to say otherwise is a bit of a sleight on them tbh.

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

I feel "that" (mwahaha) Clay dances ringlets and circles around the confused Ali. The lashing left jab vs the "no idea what to do next" Rope-a-Dope nonsense is the perfect strategy. @Bill Paxtom

Bill when you're back just tone down the 'cruelty' factor a bit on Ali. No gloating over Parkinson's or brain damage from hundreds of left hooks. No stories about Ali. Stick to ~facts~ and 'you' will be °°°alright°°°. Your posts are incredible when you deal with the venues, attendances, referees, scorecards, Trainers, handlers, promoters, and background info and biographical information and personal data. There has NEVER been such a thorough and dedicated poster on this forum.

Bill just hold back on the slander, libel, and defamation on Ali and youll be OK.

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Where's Bill Gone then?

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

There have been many way more thorough, dedicated and knowledgeable posters than Bill I am afraid. There still are and to say otherwise is a bit of a sleight on them tbh.

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Oh THX I appreciate the veiled compliment. I also ••personally•• put you into that ~dedicated~ and 'knowledgeable' category as well. :-}.

I miss marbleheadedmui, Cutmelipglossmick etc but they didn't have an axe to grind and never resorted to cruelty to make a point. Each to their own but Bill was for me like a slightly rancid farty old uncle who never had anything nice to say, and just went on and on about his ex-wifes first husband.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

I miss marbleheadedmui, Cutmelipglossmick etc but they didn't have an axe to grind and never resorted to cruelty to make a point. Each to their own but Bill was for me like a slightly rancid farty old uncle who never had anything nice to say, and just went on and on about his ex-wifes first husband.

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A poster here called :cutmemick? If so, he was at the boxing site I frequented for the past 5 years, think the mod couldn't keep it going.

Cutme had the greatest archives photos taken with fighters. I think..he also has a glove signed with Pac, MAB & Morales.

Oops my bad: Clay stops Ali TKO.

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Originally Posted by SlimTrae

Oops my bad: Clay stops Ali TKO.

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Agreed. Clay in 8. TKO

Ali may have got better during the ban, he may have faced Frazier earlier and beaten Foreman with even more ease.