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George Groves still bears scars of Carl Froch defeat, claims Martin Murray
Murray thinks that Groves has not been the same fighter since the defeats at the hands of Froch. He may have a point but Murray if nothing else is extremely durable and if he can avoid walking onto something is likely to test Groves stamina late on. Thoughts ?
This is a good fight and one I think Groves wins easily on points. Murray is trying to play mind games on the master of mind games and it will not work. George is world class and Murray is not at this new weight.
I'm looking forward to this. I want Groves to win, and I think he will.
To be honest, at SMW, Murray shouldn't be in the same ring as Groves.
Can't say that I agree with that, he's hardly had a lot to do since the Froch fight other than a close scrap with Badou Jack in which he didn't exactly disgrace himself did he.Quote:
Murray thinks that Groves has not been the same fighter since the defeats at the hands of Froch.
other than that he's gone away and rebuilt and had a couple of gimmee fights, he's hardly been running into peoples fists and getting himself KO'd every other week has he
id be surprised if Murray won but its a fight i'm looking forward to
I might put all of my betting account money (£30) on groves on points
speaking of Murray, I was in clockface St Helens last sunday watching my son play rugby
I keep going back and forth on this fight. Groves has the natural size, speed and power but nobody has ever wiped the floor with Murray (GGG doesn't count, he'd chin Groves quicker than he did MM) because he's rock solid all-round. His problem is he doesn't have a change of gear.
Groves will start fast controlling it with his top jab but he always tires, regardless of who trains him. Could be close on the cards.
There's got be be a reason why Murray didn't let his hands go vs Martinez sturm and Abraham. He never had a hope vs Golovkin but the other 3 were winnable fights and he let himself down by being too reserved. There's no evidence to suggest that this time he will change his approach and get ambitious.
Groves has fallen short afew times aswel but he seems but give more of himself and I think that's what separates these two. Also the fact that groves is natural at 168 gives him a slight edge in my book.
Murray will be tight and strong for 12 rounds but groves will take it on points. George may get sloppy late but his authoritive jab in the 1st 6 secures it for him
I've been away for a few days, but I've just come back and watched "The Gloves are Off."
I have to say , Groves is one of my favourite fighters , but he was bang out of order with what he said about Paddy Fitzpatrick and the Badou Jack fight.
When he had his problems in the first Froch fight with Booth, Fitpatrick stepped into the breach and Groves owed him big time.
That in itself is enough reason to never wash your dirty linen in public. Lack of class from Groves there.
What did he say?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
He basically blamed his loss against Jack on the fact that the person leading the corner was weak.
is out of order that yes
has he ever gone in to specifics about that? like what he thought his corner was saying that were the wrong instructions?