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Why are people in the sport not clamoring for this?
It seems easily the best matchup to be made in the sport. I've heard Inoue is too green but he is a multiple weightclass champion. I don't see how he can be too green. The only thing I can think is there just isn't enough money in it to make it worthwhile.
I feel like Gonzalez is fighting above his best weight so it won't be too long before the best of him is gone. I'm desperate for this to happen before it isn't what it could be.
Inoue would lift it out of the 'one for the purists ' category. I think if promoters and the viewing public had more imagination then it's a great matchup, that while not breaking any records is a good value fight. It's very intriguing for us fight fans but promoters and a lot of casual fans seem to be on a race to the bottom for bloated meaningless non title ppv fests like the Chavez Jr/Canelo debacle.
Probably because even huge boxing fans like me have never seen him fight. I agree that I could YouTube some of his fights but I just haven't. Now if he had been on TV here in the US then I may be clamoring for the fight much more.
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Originally Posted by Beanz
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Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Agree with both of these. Casual fans are a necessary evil in our sport, I guess. They help in the overall interest in boxing... but their short attention span and narrow focus limits their interest to circus events like the one Beanz mentioned. Then again TV is hugely to blame, largely ignoring quality fights between lesser known fighters, typically at lower weights, and choosing instead to hype the circus events. Damn this casual fascination with "the heavier the better". Fans (casual) would rather flock to a fight between two overweight bouncers with zero boxing skills, than to a true boxing clash between two world-class flyweights.
Eventually it'll get made. Inoue's peple will want their guy to get more experience and more miles on Chocolatito. Choco seems to be losing his KO power at his current weight so HBO may lose interest soon. If/when that happens he'll go back to fighting in Japan and the fight will be made. HBO don't seem to be even keen to pay out to make the Estrada rematch so they definitely won't fund Inoue coming over -- unless Choco's star rises in his next couple of fights and/or their budget increases.
More chance of it happening before HBO signed Chocolatito, as he would have travelled to Japan for it. HBO won't have that plus have to sell Inoue to their audience first. Plus most quality Japanese stars don't travel as they don't have to... boxing is extremely successful/lucrative there.
You can tell by the limited views/replies on here the lack of interest in the smaller fighters. There are plenty of people that consider themselves a "hardcore fan" that wouldn't know Monster from Godzilla.
You should watch them. In fact you should watch a fight of each of theirs and then watch somebody you like. You will see that they are far more entertaining, and far more skilled. This fight would be boxing porn.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Talked of it last year and wondered about inexperience in Inoue but not now. Gonzalez is a tremendous talent but honestly it feels like hbo is trying to 'blow him up' without fully committing and I think he might be growing stale with a fat contract and co maining Golovkin cards. He traveled like a gypsy prior but hasn't had 4 straight fights in same Country in about a decade. Why didn't they push a Cuadras rematch rather than this opponent who fought under an alias a fight ago? I swear somewhere in Thailand there is one single fighter named after 10 gyms on any giving night. The flyweights have enjoyed a respectable run stateside with guys from Tapia, Johnson to Carbajal or Arce getting massive exposure but remain largely tone deaf with talent from Japan. Inoue would appear to have every bit the talent of Arbachakov but sadly the same anonymity when it comes to the network big dogs putting their heads in the water.
Well I've seen chocolatito fight multiple times. Maybe I'll check out inuoe. Any suggestions on what fights of his I should watch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonYou should watch them. In fact you should watch a fight of each of theirs and then watch somebody you like. You will see that they are far more entertaining, and far more skilled. This fight would be boxing porn.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
The fight with Omar Narvaez(who gave Donaire a scrap despite being ridiculously outsized) is a good showcase for Inoue, and perhaps the only fight of the guys I've seen entirely as well if I'm honest. I consider myself a hardcore fan and all, but I can understand the lack of interest in guys who are so small at the same time. The tiny guys are always going to be exponentially more skilled and fluid, but there is a point where you want a fighter to have a basic level of physicality, where you wouldn't wonder how you'd do against them yourself in a street fight. A good comparison imo is gymnasts; you'll never see a big guy who could possibly compete, but if you are so tiny that you can't generate any power or have relative strength, the same is true.
You really can't go wrong with anything from 2014 on. I believe Carmona is the only guy to go the distance since. So if you want to see a stoppage don't choose that. He's got a very action packed style so all his fights are entertaining. That's why I want the Gonzalez fight so much. Most times 2 elite fighters meet it slows down. These two I think we would see the opposite. A barn burner at the highest level.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherWell I've seen chocolatito fight multiple times. Maybe I'll check out inuoe. Any suggestions on what fights of his I should watch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonYou should watch them. In fact you should watch a fight of each of theirs and then watch somebody you like. You will see that they are far more entertaining, and far more skilled. This fight would be boxing porn.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I hope we get to see this fight while both guys are still at or near their peak. 115 may be as high as Gonzalez should go and I'm not sure how much longer Inoue will be there. I'm good with Gonzalez taking on the Thai next. The Cuadras fight was grueling and we saw last week how the effects of back to back wars had affected Vargas. Also Rungvisai was starting to give Cuadras all sorts of trouble before their bout was cut short. Cuadras seemed to be in no hurry to give him a return.