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For starters I don't really like talking about Floyd at this stage and I hope he remains retired. The forum is relatively quiet tho so I thought this thread might drum up some action.
What should Floyd's record actually be? There are some that feel he should have lost at least 4.
Thoughts?
We used to have plenty of flomos on here that would argue every second of every minute of Floyd's record "proving" that he's never lost a round let alone a fight, but these days the few that are left will just post "TBE" "49-0" - they got nothing.
I can't even think of the four fighters to beat him?
Castillo for sure, but even that was a close, debatable decision. And Floyd doesn't get credit from his knockers for immediately rematching him.
Some good judges think he lost to Oscar. I don't. Quite a few ringside had Pac winning. He didn't.
Maidana?
truth is he should have 0 - every fighter gets a bit lucky at some stage and flloyd was good enough that when he was unlucky - i.e. ripped off by the judges vs canelo he was so good they couldnt even give the decision to canelo so it was an SD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Personally I think Castillo 1 he lost 7-5 and I also think (and I know im in the big minority here) that the cotto fight was a draw. Maidana was very close.
But he's 49-0 and you can't really argue with that, as said everyone gets lucky sometimes - and unlucky as well
One guy mentioned he should have been disqualified against Judah for his trainer entering the ring. Castillo I. Possibly Oscar & Maidana I.
The first Castillo fight was very close. I can also understand the Judah theory although I don't agree. De La Hoya, Pac & Maidana I thought he won. Maidana & Oscar fights were closer than some give credit.
What was that about, I can't remember thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I think it was after Zab hit Floyd low then uncle Roger came storming in the ring.
I honestly can't remember that, I'll have to take a butchers on YouTube later
Lennox Lewis laughing - doing the comms - as it all kicked off cracked me up.
Yeah technically Floyd could have been DQ'd but Judah is the real one that deserved getting chucked out. He blatantly eyed up that cracking full blooded blast to the goolies, back of the head smash combo.
Same people used to rave on about Judah schooling him early doors and knocked him down because his glove grazed the canvas. All of it meaningless as Floyd adjusted to take Judah to the cleaners.
0
I had Floyd beating Castillo but drawing Canelo and losing against Oscar but admit my bias in that. :)
Hatton was winning after 6 rounds but the ref cheated him from a victory.
Draw vs Canelo? F-ck me. I think the 1st Castillo fight you clung argue as a legit loss. Does anyone think Castillo could have made adjustments in a 3rd bout or would it have been another wide decision for Floyd?
I'll say 0 too
Had Castillo been given the nod there would have been more complaints re him getting the decision than there has been for Floyd getting it.
And Hatton was outclassed in that fight Master - never ahead despite the early rounds excitement amongst the fans.
Don't think would have been any different even if Cortez had let him go on the inside more.
he won all his fights
the Moseley, Cotto, Pac fights happening to late is the shame
agreed on thatQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
I think Hatton at light welter in Manchester with Pars as ref beats Floyd. Same with Cotto at MSG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKOagreed on thatQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Younger version Oscar at welterweight and Shane at light weight give pretty boy a tougher time if not beat him.
You could do this with many fighters. All fighters have won or lost close decisions that could have gone either way.
Technically he should have been disqualified in the Judah fight but I'm glad it wasn't called like that. Also, probably in the minority, I think the fight was a draw. Floyd for sure did better, but round by round I thought it was a draw with Judah winning if the KD was called. Basically, Judah won the first 4 rounds then the last 2 (I think) after the whole Roger fiasco.