Used to like him, but he's everywhere. Dining out on beating a one-legged man. SMDH
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Used to like him, but he's everywhere. Dining out on beating a one-legged man. SMDH
Never liked him and Wilder should have knocked him out for even having the cheek to thing he should be in the same ring with him.
I agree big fella. He is starting to get right on my fucking tits lol. When I click into youtube his face is in every fucking vid too
I think him and Wilder is a good fight. He's so undersized and outgunned its basically comical, but thats basically the same breakdown people had for Haye. My hunch is that this time the breakdown would come true, but then again Wilder doesn't really know how to box, so it's somewhat interesting.
I cannot fucking stand him , and what he is an example, that is an overrated (by people who know fuck all about sport, but believe everything the media tell them) overhyped, untalented , overpaid Sportsman. There, I fucking said it!
No doubt we're gonna have the old "he could die in there, he deserves every penny he gets" comments, and to that I say Bollocks! There are way better and braver Boxers than him, that earn nowhere near what he does.
If I told my grandkids in 10 or 20years
time about a guy who had a ppv fight against Cleverley, had a stadium fight in his team's stadium and won a world title, beat Haye in a massive ppv, and then possibly went on to fight Deontay Wilder or a World HW title, and to cap it all was in a Rocky Film, they would think he was some kind of fucking superstar ATG!
How could I convince them that he was pony?
I have to give him credit for being the most blessed, luckiest fighter to have ever walked this earth.
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
This seems as bit excessive. I don't care for him personally either, but the fact is he is on a bit of a tear and has proven himself somewhat of a natural fighter. Of course he could get starched at HW against a Wilder type guy, the size difference is staggering. I'd still give him a chance against some of the smaller HW's by way of actually having some instincts, just me.
I think we all know the Wilder fight will probably happen.
Comedy gold
Disagree, if anything I thing Primo was somewhat reserved in his post compared to what Bellew deserves.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
This seems as bit excessive. I don't care for him personally either, but the fact is he is on a bit of a tear and has proven himself somewhat of a natural fighter. Of course he could get starched at HW against a Wilder type guy, the size difference is staggering. I'd still give him a chance against some of the smaller HW's by way of actually having some instincts, just me.
It wouldn't be so bad if he accepted that the injury played a huge part in the outcome of his fight but he doesn't even acknowledge it.
Having said that not many fighters would.
Bellew is still a prick of the highest order.
I don't think it's excessive. Should the Cleverley fight have been ppv? NO!Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
This seems as bit excessive. I don't care for him personally either, but the fact is he is on a bit of a tear and has proven himself somewhat of a natural fighter. Of course he could get starched at HW against a Wilder type guy, the size difference is staggering. I'd still give him a chance against some of the smaller HW's by way of actually having some instincts, just me.
He is a CW, what has he done to enhance his status as a top CW? Fuck all! I bet there are between 5 and 10 CW's out there that could beat him.
So he beat a one legged Haye as a HW, name me any top 20 HW that wouldn't finish Haye off in those circumstances?
Is he a top 10 HW ? NO!
so why is it excessive?
Hey, good luck to him , earning these sort of plaudits and financial gain for someone of his ability, but there are probably over 100 fighters in the World that are better than him and earn less, what about them?
He earnt more in his last fight than Ward and Kovalev for fighting each other, now tell me it's excessive?
One of his comedy gold comments was that he beat the "bogey man" of the division and that he has the best name on his record than AJ or Wilder did until Anthony beat Wlad last night. Joker actually believes everything he says.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
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Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI don't think it's excessive. Should the Cleverley fight have been ppv? NO!Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
This seems as bit excessive. I don't care for him personally either, but the fact is he is on a bit of a tear and has proven himself somewhat of a natural fighter. Of course he could get starched at HW against a Wilder type guy, the size difference is staggering. I'd still give him a chance against some of the smaller HW's by way of actually having some instincts, just me.
He is a CW, what has he done to enhance his status as a top CW? Fuck all! I bet there are between 5 and 10 CW's out there that could beat him.
So he beat a one legged Haye as a HW, name me any top 20 HW that wouldn't finish Haye off in those circumstances?
Is he a top 10 HW ? NO!
so why is it excessive?
Hey, good luck to him , earning these sort of plaudits and financial gain for someone of his ability, but there are probably over 100 fighters in the World that are better than him and earn less, what about them?
He earnt more in his last fight than Ward and Kovalev for fighting each other, now tell me it's excessive?
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Id say he is somewhere between 5-10, although I do agree with you there are a few cruiserweights who could beat him, the win over Makabu has to carry something. It's hard to say where he's at as Haye was injured and didn't look like his former self in general, but it's still a win. I don't care to drag this out as you could be right, but he's obviously capable of beating guys who hold visible advantages over him, that's all.
Don't get me wrong, my problem isn't specifically with him. He's making as much money as he can with limited skills. Fair play to him, and they all talk shit, so that doesn't bother me.
My problem is with those who buy into him and fund that, THE GENERAL PUBLIC!!! Bunch of fucking mugs who believe everything they hear rather than see it with their own eyes.
And I have never liked an imbalance between Skill to Financial gain. The best should earn the most and so on.
The minute that stops happening, sport turns into pantomime.
I know it's a bit idealistic, but hey ho.
Just trust us on this one. Bellew is so far out of his depth in the heavyweight division that he is even contemplating fighting anyone other than Haye is just comical. Unless Wilder gets injured he would wipe away Bellew in a round.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingbQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI don't think it's excessive. Should the Cleverley fight have been ppv? NO!Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
This seems as bit excessive. I don't care for him personally either, but the fact is he is on a bit of a tear and has proven himself somewhat of a natural fighter. Of course he could get starched at HW against a Wilder type guy, the size difference is staggering. I'd still give him a chance against some of the smaller HW's by way of actually having some instincts, just me.
He is a CW, what has he done to enhance his status as a top CW? Fuck all! I bet there are between 5 and 10 CW's out there that could beat him.
So he beat a one legged Haye as a HW, name me any top 20 HW that wouldn't finish Haye off in those circumstances?
Is he a top 10 HW ? NO!
so why is it excessive?
Hey, good luck to him , earning these sort of plaudits and financial gain for someone of his ability, but there are probably over 100 fighters in the World that are better than him and earn less, what about them?
He earnt more in his last fight than Ward and Kovalev for fighting each other, now tell me it's excessive?
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Id say he is somewhere between 5-10, although I do agree with you there are a few cruiserweights who could beat him, the win over Makabu has to carry something. It's hard to say where he's at as Haye was injured and didn't look like his former self in general, but it's still a win. I don't care to drag this out as you could be right, but he's obviously capable of beating guys who hold visible advantages over him, that's all.
Thing is tho, which one of them had a bigger name on their record?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterOne of his comedy gold comments was that he beat the "bogey man" of the division and that he has the best name on his record than AJ or Wilder did until Anthony beat Wlad last night. Joker actually believes everything he says.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
I think bellew is generally under rated by most
I also think he's mr right place at the right time tho
I would say that they all had bigger names than Bellew at heavyweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Thing is tho, which one of them had a bigger name on their record?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterOne of his comedy gold comments was that he beat the "bogey man" of the division and that he has the best name on his record than AJ or Wilder did until Anthony beat Wlad last night. Joker actually believes everything he says.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
I think bellew is generally under rated by most
I also think he's mr right place at the right time tho
Beating Haye at heavyweight means nothing, he beat a cumbersome giant, got utterly embarrassed by Klit, fought a youtube boxer and fought some geeza who's name was something along the lines of gzobikamislanikrankovicanov.
Media aside Haye has been an embarrassment of a heavyweight and other than the name he is no name at all