Ezzard Charles ***PUNISHES*** Rocky Marciano - FIGHT OF THE YEAR 1954
	
	
	
	
	
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		Charles was awesome. I'm surprised not many rate him highly among the top all time heavies.
	 
	
	
	
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		charles i rate in the top 10
	 
	
	
	
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			charles i rate in the top 10
			
		
	 
 I can see an argument for that.
	 
	
	
	
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brocktonblockbust
				 
			charles i rate in the top 10
			
		
	 
 I can see an argument for that.
	 
 in fact I have him exactly at #10
Ali
Louis
Marciano
Holmes
Foreman
Johnson
Frazier
Tyson
Lewis
Charles
	 
	
	
	
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Alpha
				 
			
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brocktonblockbust
				 
			charles i rate in the top 10
			
		
	 
 I can see an argument for that.
	 
 in fact I have him exactly at #10
Ali
Louis
Marciano
Holmes
Foreman
Johnson
Frazier
Tyson
Lewis
Charles
	 
 Marciano a little high for me and I'd have Holyfield instead of Tyson.
	 
	
	
	
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brocktonblockbust
				 
			
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				Originally Posted by 
Alpha
				 
			
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				Originally Posted by 
brocktonblockbust
				 
			charles i rate in the top 10
			
		
	 
 I can see an argument for that.
	 
 in fact I have him exactly at #10
Ali
Louis
Marciano
Holmes
Foreman
Johnson
Frazier
Tyson
Lewis
Charles
	 
 Marciano a little high for me and I'd have Holyfield instead of Tyson.
	 
 depends what the criteria is and what carries more kudos. Longevity, domination, on their best night , etc. But I would have Tyson Higher (Much Higher) and i'll be honest, I don't think I would have Frazier there at all.
	 
	
	
	
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brocktonblockbust
				 
			
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				Originally Posted by 
Alpha
				 
			
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				Originally Posted by 
brocktonblockbust
				 
			charles i rate in the top 10
			
		
	 
 I can see an argument for that.
	 
 in fact I have him exactly at #10
Ali
Louis
Marciano
Holmes
Foreman
Johnson
Frazier
Tyson
Lewis
Charles
	 
 Marciano a little high for me and I'd have Holyfield instead of Tyson.
	 
 depends what the criteria is and what carries more kudos. Longevity, domination, on their best night , etc. But I would have Tyson Higher (Much Higher) and i'll be honest, I don't think I would have Frazier there at all.
	 
 Joe Frasier had more defences than all except Louis, Holmes and Wlad.
Ezzard Charles was the greatest light heavy of them all in my opinion he beat Moore and that says it all. The fact that he went on to become a heavyweight champion further enhances his legacy just like Holyfield but it was not his best weight.
	 
	
	
	
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brocktonblockbust
				 
			
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				Originally Posted by 
Alpha
				 
			
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				Originally Posted by 
brocktonblockbust
				 
			charles i rate in the top 10
			
		
	 
 I can see an argument for that.
	 
 in fact I have him exactly at #10
Ali
Louis
Marciano
Holmes
Foreman
Johnson
Frazier
Tyson
Lewis
Charles
	 
 Marciano a little high for me and I'd have Holyfield instead of Tyson.
	 
 depends what the criteria is and what carries more kudos. Longevity, domination, on their best night , etc. But I would have Tyson Higher (Much Higher) and i'll be honest, I don't think I would have Frazier there at all.
	 
 Joe Frasier had more defences than all except Louis, Holmes and Wlad.
Ezzard Charles was the greatest light heavy of them all in my opinion he beat Moore and that says it all. The fact that he went on to become a heavyweight champion further enhances his legacy just like Holyfield but it was not his best weight.
	 
 So he had more defences than most, so is Wlad on your list? Is Holmes on your list? Is Vitali on your list?
It's like I said about what criteria carries more weight. For me, most 
title defences doesn't score higher than "at Prime" . Each to their own.
	 
 I posted my list on another thread and those champions are on except Vitali.
	 
	
	
	
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		these threads miss legendary poster bill paxton.... his posts were so good I had no idea what was truth and fiction
	 
	
	
	
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Alpha
				 
			
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				Originally Posted by 
brocktonblockbust
				 
			charles i rate in the top 10
			
		
	 
 I can see an argument for that.
	 
 in fact I have him exactly at #10
Ali
Louis
Marciano
Holmes
Foreman
Johnson
Frazier
Tyson
Lewis
Charles
	 
 Marciano a little high for me and I'd have Holyfield instead of Tyson.
	 
 depends what the criteria is and what carries more kudos. Longevity, domination, on their best night , etc. But I would have Tyson Higher (Much Higher) and i'll be honest, I don't think I would have Frazier there at all.
	 
 Frazier steam rolled through the greatest HW division of all time. He may have the best run as HW champ ever in terms of competition. He is easily top 10.