Wilder - "Mike Tyson never beat anyone. Disagree? You know shit about boxing"

The only two HOF-amers Tyson fought whopped his arse, Holyfield twice and Lennox.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7CW8COpyuw

He has a point.

"The only two HOF-amers Tyson fought"

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Wilder has fought how many HoF himself?

Holmes was past his prime, but................ rarely have I enjoyed a beatdown more than this one. Made me an instant Tyson fan.

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Originally Posted by Master

Wilder has fought how many HoF himself?

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Charlie Zelenoff in an exhibition

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Holmes was past his prime, but................ rarely have I enjoyed a beatdown more than this one. Made me an instant Tyson fan.

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Past his prime? He still beat Mercer after that and gave Holyfield hell sooooo :shrug03:

Well.... he was nearly 40 and did have the dubious distinction to have lost twice to a blown-up light heavyweight just before the Tyson fight.

Not saying he was totally washed up.... only that he was beyond his prime. I think his prime was late 70's early 80's.

Having said that, beating the undefeated Mercer was definitely a late career achievement.

Still...... past his prime or not..... I was elated to see Tyson tear him a new one.

I agree that Tyson lost to his best competition. He was still a great fighter but didn’t beat anybody great.

How long would Wilder last against Mike Tyson?

Lets keep in mind that he was also a shell of himself when he fought Holyfield and Lennox. No head movement, no trainer that knew his system and was doing hard drugs most of that time and looking for a way out.

He didn't get popped for weed while driving around and buzzed by a flabby frenchman, or chubby heavyweight while enjoying a 4-7+ inch reach advantage and flailing cuffs. Easy to talk trash when your in an era of subpar heavyweights.

This is like Pee Wee Herman criticizing DeNiro as an actor. 1 win over Ortiz does not a legend make. Shoot I'm not so sure Wilder beats Tony Tucker for starters.

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Originally Posted by J_Undisputed

Lets keep in mind that he was also a shell of himself when he fought Holyfield and Lennox. No head movement, no trainer that knew his system and was doing hard drugs most of that time and looking for a way out.

He didn't get popped for weed while driving around and buzzed by a flabby frenchman, or chubby heavyweight while enjoying a 4-7+ inch reach advantage and flailing cuffs. Easy to talk trash when your in an era of subpar heavyweights.

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While this may be true, it doesn’t take away from the fact that he made bad choices and lost fights because of it.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

This is like Pee Wee Herman criticizing DeNiro as an actor. 1 win over Ortiz does not a legend make. Shoot I'm not so sure Wilder beats Tony Tucker for starters.

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Meeeeeeh :-\


I think Paul Ruebens (PeeWee) is actually a good actor See him as Derek Foreal in Blow) DeNiro is kind of a one note Johnny now'a'days "Aye look at me, I'm an Italian tough guy, fuggedaboutit"

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

This is like Pee Wee Herman criticizing DeNiro as an actor. 1 win over Ortiz does not a legend make. Shoot I'm not so sure Wilder beats Tony Tucker for starters.

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Meeeeeeh :-\


I think Paul Ruebens (PeeWee) is actually a good actor See him as Derek Foreal in Blow) DeNiro is kind of a one note Johnny now'a'days "Aye look at me, I'm an Italian tough guy, fuggedaboutit"

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We all know you just despise his politics don't over think an analogy ;D. They don't compare role wise.

But have to ask for all the stick Tyson gets for beating a washed up Holmes...isn't this the same washed up Holmes who came back to compete with and beat a top heavyweight at the time. What's with the disrespect and throwing shade from these young heavies today. First AJ and now Wilder fresh off a draw he lost ffs hating on legends. It's delusional.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

We all know you just despise his politics don't over think an analogy ;D. They don't compare role wise.

But have to ask for all the stick Tyson gets for beating a washed up Holmes...isn't this the same washed up Holmes who came back to compete with and beat a top heavyweight at the time. What's with the disrespect and throwing shade from these young heavies today. First AJ and now Wilder fresh off a draw he lost ffs hating on legends. It's delusional.

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Actors, artists, whoever if their work is more than them jamming their politics down your throat I'm good with it. I don't mind DeNiro at all, I think like Pacino when he was younger he was more versatile as an actor Christopher Walken too...I like all those guys work. I think right now DeNiro is just his name recognition and the "I'm a grumpy Italian wiseguy" schtick.


I'll also take this time to remind you....all Wlad ever did was show respect and class ;D



Heavyweights today are just insecure, they feel they need to big up themselves to get more eyes on them. Do it in the ring and the eyes will follow.