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I thought against Shambra Mitchell he wasn't moving as fast because he knew he was already so much faster than Shambra... this fight showed me that wasn't the case. Floyd's footspeed has slowed down so much... alot with some of his hand speed. He was faster than Judah, but barely yet at 140 he looked light years faster IMO.
He don't look as fast because, against Mitchell, he wanted to fight inside because he felt Mitchell couldn't hurt him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
As for the Judah fight, both fighters showed foot, and hand speed. But, you can't showcase your speed against another guy that has speed. Thereis a separate sport for that, it's called sprinting. Floyd isn't as fast, but he's still got it. It's just the match-ups he's had. If he fights Margarito, Floyd will be all around him, and all over him, because that is the style that will win it for him. Why use something if you don't need to.
Pretend Zab is cut out of the picture... then watch Mayweather and pretend his other opponents at 140 are cut out of the picture the speed difference is incredible, and compare him to 130 against Corrales or even 135 against Castillo or Chavez and he himself was So much faster... This shows how insane Roy JOnes Jr. must have been athletically to keep almost all his speed moving up to light heavyweight, and he had to almost gain 45 pounds from the weight he entered boxing, and he was more than 20 pounds over his walking around weight when he slowed to aquivalently to what PBF has at his walking around weight... I think even more now that juice was involved in Roy Jones Jr.'s career and I don't mean Sunny D.
I get what you're saying, and Floyd isn't as fast. But, when I first read your post, it sounded like you thought Floyd lost his speed. Judah and Floyd are both as fast as little guys, it just isn't going to look that way against each other. You mentioned Roy. When Roy didn't have to use his legs he didn't, but he usually did. Floyd can fight inside better than Roy ever could, and don't have to rely on his feet. This, IMO, was the downfall of Roy. When you don't get hit for years because you can get away, and then your legs slow, how can you expect to take a punch? Floyd may never reach the status as Roy, and may not carry his speed as well as Roy{with or without the juice}, but Floyd is better all-round than Roy, simply because he is better on the inside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
If he doesn't move down to 140.
....... He could lose. ;)
I agree that he would be better at 140, but that's what everyone said about Oscar, and Mosely. When he destroys Margarito, people will still say the same thing. People already say he ducked people to move up. Well which is it? Alot of people say he moved up to avoid getting beat, now people are saying if he stays at 147, he'll get beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
People just love to hate Floyd, just like the Yankees.
I think FLoyd might have what happened to Mosley and Oscar though... and they were both naturally alot bigger than Floyd, and both harder hitters, and still moving about the equivalent that Floyd did was too much for them though Oscar wasn't as physically gifted and Mosley wasn't as technically gifted as Floyd it will hard for him to beat younger guys when he gets older at 147... If he stays at 140 which I think he could he will still be pretty strong enough for 140 that his gradually diminishing speed will hold out longer, and there are more people to fight at 140.
I think that Floyd didn't look as fast because Zab was just as fast. Look at James Toney vs. Roy Jones Jr. toney looked slow, but watching James before he had very VERY fast hands. Jones were just THAT MUCH faster.