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Body shots won the fight.
Excellent footwork from Loma but he didn’t do enough and can’t fight on the back foot like when he lost to Lopez.
It was close but it was no robbery.
Loma had the crowd and every shot was celebrated but the bodywork won Haney the fight.
Anyone else think the same?
The body work had no affect on Loma.
Loma threw and landed more effective punches. Loma was sharper, more accurate and busier on the inside. He managed the distance better and Haney looked more in trouble especially at the end of the 11th round.
Agreed it was a close fight but had it 7-5 for Loma.
Just because Loma had a great round does not mean he won more rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He simply starts too late.
Lopez defeat was worse.
I’m not going to say it was a robbery, but I had Loma winning a close decision. There were a ton of close rounds that likely were swayed by personal preference/bias. Loma had the more dominant/definitive rounds late but not enough of them to call this a robbery/travesty. I will say that the one judge who gave Haney the 10th messed that up pretty bad.
Agree on the 10th round.
Agree on Loma having the best effect in certain roads.
I still had it 7-5 Haney.
Tell us what rounds you had it Haney?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Have not done a rewatch but had it 116-112 Loma. With the accuracy, the dictate volume combo and the one landing harder more effective shots. Haney did do well with some body work but largely on or two at a time overall with punches and he could not dent Loma at all. Where were the dividends. There were ebb and flow rounds, close for sure but overall, Loma did more of what he wanted to do when he wanted to do it. He was working Haney and the multi angles had Haney struggling to find consistency. Mouth open last portion not a good look either. Some close rounds, some tight exchanges but imo not a close fight so I'm gonna stick with the robbery. Do recognize that is a seriously over used term. As it "could have gone either way" but just cannot see a case for Haney winning cards as it unfolded.
haney kept hitting lomachenko on the wrong side of the body. he kept hitting him on the left side of his body. the liver is on the other side. he places his punches better that fight would have looked very different.
1,2,4,5,7,8,12Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTell us what rounds you had it Haney?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Watch it again on mute.
Loma fans get a bit too emotional like Pac fans and need to enjoy the event as it is.
It was no robbery.
Round could have went either way which would be a draw.
Are we going to ignore the bodywork for all fights going forward?
Lopez did a better job than Haney.
It was a close fight but should have gone to Loma. Haney bodywork aside, which had no affect, he struggled with Loma better boxing and control of distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp1,2,4,5,7,8,12Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTell us what rounds you had it Haney?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Watch it again on mute.
Loma fans get a bit too emotional like Pac fans and need to enjoy the event as it is.
It was no robbery.
Round could have went either way which would be a draw.
Are we going to ignore the bodywork for all fights going forward?
Lopez did a better job than Haney.
It is also clear that Lopez would have struggled with this Loma as he did not start fighting after giving the early rounds away.
I give you round 1,4,5,and 12 for Haney but round 2 was universally Loma’s so you are wrong with that round.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp1,2,4,5,7,8,12Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTell us what rounds you had it Haney?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Round 8 was given to Loma by most of the judges and round 7 was given to Haney by most of the judges.
Haney won 5 rounds 1,4,5,9 and 12 on all 3 judges’ score cards. Loma won 2 rounds 2 and 11 on all 3 judges’ score cards.
Loma won 3 rounds 3, 8 and 10 from most of the judges with Haney doing the same for round 6 and 7.
Dave Moretti who scored it 8-4 Haney who was the same ref that score round 2 10-10 in the Tank v Garcia fight where Davis knocked down Ryan which should most times be recorded 10-8.
That is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt was a close fight but should have gone to Loma. Haney bodywork aside, which had no affect, he struggled with Loma better boxing and control of distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp1,2,4,5,7,8,12Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTell us what rounds you had it Haney?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Watch it again on mute.
Loma fans get a bit too emotional like Pac fans and need to enjoy the event as it is.
It was no robbery.
Round could have went either way which would be a draw.
Are we going to ignore the bodywork for all fights going forward?
Lopez did a better job than Haney.
It is also clear that Lopez would have struggled with this Loma as he did not start fighting after giving the early rounds away.
Loma starts late in every fight.
He never gave the rounds away to Lopez as Lopez nullified his output.
Loma has lost to Lopez and Haney and there seems to me an excuse from you now about why he lost to Lopez?!
I actually prefer Lomas style (over Lopez and Haney) and when you look at the art of boxing you can clearly see the beauty in Loma/Usyk fighting style.
Usyk is P4P number one in my eyes.
I just will not jump on the casual ship and ignore the 5-7 rounds that Haney potentially won as the undisputed champion.
You also know (deep in your heart) that Loma would never have given Haney this opportunity and if it was 4 years ago, Loma would have probably won but he begged the WBC to make him super franchise champion!
Haney was no one 4 years and fought Linares and Gamboa in those years. He only became relevant when he beat Kambosos after Loma turned the fight down.