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The excuse for not fighting Shakur is what?
Loma is nearly 36 year old.
Unlike an old, out of prime, tiny Floyd Mayweather taking on a young, bigger, world champion in Canelo with over 40 fights and completely dominating him!
Floyd was nearly 37 years old!
https://youtu.be/zeIaHRniwF8?si=0uvb68xG_KC1UJiU
Floyd did force Canelo into a catchweight.
Wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Canelo suggested the weight.
No he did not. Why would he voluntarily disadvantage himself? It's like offering to fight with one arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by impWrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Canelo suggested the weight.
Because he was begging for the fight. the World and his wife wanted the Floyd fight then . Canelo has more than learnt his lesson when it comes to being the "A-Side".Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo he did not. Why would he voluntarily disadvantage himself? It's like offering to fight with one arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by impWrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Canelo suggested the weight.
Canelo said Floyd insisted that he make the weight, during the pre-fight promotion, so stop making excuses for Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause he was begging for the fight. the World and his wife wanted the Floyd fight then . Canelo has more than learnt his lesson when it comes to being the "A-Side".Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo he did not. Why would he voluntarily disadvantage himself? It's like offering to fight with one arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by impWrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Canelo suggested the weight.
There are plenty of fighters Floyd avoided that would have been better on his record. It does not necessarily mean he ducked them.
Who really wants to watch another Shakur fight ;D. I'd even say once Loma picks up a trinket vs Kambosos...not thrilled with that fight...they can sort it out but who really needs who the most. Might see Navarette come up and be slotted right away for wbo crack vs Shakur. Can't see him running a track meet all night with him.
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Originally Posted by MasterCanelo said Floyd insisted that he make the weight, during the pre-fight promotion, so stop making excuses for Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause he was begging for the fight. the World and his wife wanted the Floyd fight then . Canelo has more than learnt his lesson when it comes to being the "A-Side".Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo he did not. Why would he voluntarily disadvantage himself? It's like offering to fight with one arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by impWrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Canelo suggested the weight.
There are plenty of fighters Floyd avoided that would have been better on his record. It does not necessarily mean he ducked them.
Interesting this back-and-forth. In the end, the only details that really matter are that Floyd shut out and schooled worse than he had ever been schooled. I remember Canelo and his team begging... no... demanding that fight... with their delusions that Canelo belonged in the same ring with Floyd.
Interesting also that when Floyd is asked about his toughest fights, he NEVER mentions Canelo. In fact, he's made it clear that Canelo was a cakewalk. Plus... Canelo was the bigger man. Catchweights or no catchweights.
One of my favorite fights of Floyd, how he shut out and embarrassed Canelo.
So Floyd "Avoided Better fights". ok if that's what you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterCanelo said Floyd insisted that he make the weight, during the pre-fight promotion, so stop making excuses for Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause he was begging for the fight. the World and his wife wanted the Floyd fight then . Canelo has more than learnt his lesson when it comes to being the "A-Side".Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo he did not. Why would he voluntarily disadvantage himself? It's like offering to fight with one arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by impWrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Canelo suggested the weight.
There are plenty of fighters Floyd avoided that would have been better on his record. It does not necessarily mean he ducked them.
there are many reasons that fights don't get made, rightly or wrongly. Boxing politics between Governing bodies, promotional issues, TV Network issues , yadda yadda.
but notwithstanding any of that and your feelings about fighters he "Avoided" , name me ANYONE with a better resume of fighting World level fighters (Nearly all World Champions) fight after fight after fight ?
it's ok to be a hater, but there comes a time when that has to be backed up with some good old fashioned substance and FACTS.
" I don't like him" just doesn't cut it.
Roy Jones jnrQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo Floyd "Avoided Better fights". ok if that's what you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterCanelo said Floyd insisted that he make the weight, during the pre-fight promotion, so stop making excuses for Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraBecause he was begging for the fight. the World and his wife wanted the Floyd fight then . Canelo has more than learnt his lesson when it comes to being the "A-Side".Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo he did not. Why would he voluntarily disadvantage himself? It's like offering to fight with one arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by impWrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Canelo suggested the weight.
There are plenty of fighters Floyd avoided that would have been better on his record. It does not necessarily mean he ducked them.
there are many reasons that fights don't get made, rightly or wrongly. Boxing politics between Governing bodies, promotional issues, TV Network issues , yadda yadda.
but notwithstanding any of that and your feelings about fighters he "Avoided" , name me ANYONE with a better resume of fighting World level fighters (Nearly all World Champions) fight after fight after fight ?
it's ok to be a hater, but there comes a time when that has to be backed up with some good old fashioned substance and FACTS.
" I don't like him" just doesn't cut it.
Funny, I was just watching “The Night Floyd Humbled Hatton” and I was coming here to ask if we could have an honest conversation about Floyd. If it had been long enough to move past the hate and be honest. Reading Master’s nonsense, clearly it has not.
Hopefully some day Master grows as a person enough to be honest