Hopkins NEVER ducked Calzaghe, or anybody!
I'm really getting sick and tired of reading posts in here by Joe Calzaghe fans who swear up and down that Bernard Hopkins was ducking this guy.
First off, in America, Calzaghe JUST became a star by beating a young, rising American star. Hopkins is a money whore, more than anything. There was absolutely no money in a fight w/ Calzaghe. Furthermore, Hopkins is an HBO fighter, Calzaghe a Showtime fighter. Those are difficult fights to make. Plus, he was chasing Monzon's middleweight defenses record.
And in between he found time to fight a 40-0 Felix Trinidad, and Oscar Delahoya. So stop with the "Hopkins was ducking" crap, it doesnt make sense!
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This guy's only guilty of being, as you put it, "a money whore". He'll fight his wife on PPV if they paid him enough.
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I agree, you can't call it ducking!
Boxing is a business more than anything. Hopkins chose the best fights to make the most money and improve his career. If Calzaghe would have brought in the money you bet your ass he would have fought him, but at the time there was much better opportunities out there for him.
Look at the top quality opposition this man took out, please use a better word than 'duck'!
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Thank you, Pantera. Have a CC for common sense.
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Hopkins was the better fighter, if anything Joe ducked Hopkins....and Joe is one of my favourite fighters
Re: Hopkins NEVER ducked Calzaghe, or anybody!
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Originally Posted by Mr. Nightmare
I'm really getting sick and tired of reading posts in here by Joe Calzaghe fans who swear up and down that Bernard Hopkins was ducking this guy.
First off, in America, Calzaghe JUST became a star by beating a young, rising American star. Hopkins is a money whore, more than anything. There was absolutely no money in a fight w/ Calzaghe. Furthermore, Hopkins is an HBO fighter, Calzaghe a Showtime fighter. Those are difficult fights to make. Plus, he was chasing Monzon's middleweight defenses record.
And in between he found time to fight a 40-0 Felix Trinidad, and Oscar Delahoya. So stop with the "Hopkins was ducking" crap, it doesnt make sense!
You need to upgrade yourself – both RJJ and Hopkins avoided Calzaghe as the plague. Even Collins was avoided by RJJ and Hopkins would only play with small boys.
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Originally Posted by The_One77
Hopkins was the better fighter, if anything Joe ducked Hopkins....and Joe is one of my favourite fighters
Calzaghe was chasing Hopkins in 2002/3/4 (somewhere around that time ;D) Hopkins agreed to a fight for 3million quid but then doubled his price and the fight obviously fell through, apparently.
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If anyone thinks Hopkins had a chance in a rematch with Roy Jones or in a bout with Calzaghe, you're smoking some good shit. And yeah I'm sure Hopkins was a money whore, but that was his way of not fighting these people ;)
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by The_One77
Hopkins was the better fighter, if anything Joe ducked Hopkins....and Joe is one of my favourite fighters
Calzaghe was chasing Hopkins in 2002/3/4 (somewhere around that time ;D) Hopkins agreed to a fight for 3million quid but then doubled his price and the fight obviously fell through, apparently.
ahhh...ok, didnt realise that
cheers
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Originally Posted by raleights
If anyone thinks Hopkins had a chance in a rematch with Roy Jones or in a bout with Calzaghe, you're smoking some good S***. And yeah I'm sure Hopkins was a money whore, but that was his way of not fighting these people ;)
How many people on this forum have jobs? If someone else offered you more money, you'd take it and move companies.
So how is Hopkins more of a money whore than the rest of us?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Nightmare
I'm really getting sick and tired of reading posts in here by Joe Calzaghe fans who swear up and down that Bernard Hopkins was ducking this guy.
First off, in America, Calzaghe JUST became a star by beating a young, rising American star. Hopkins is a money whore, more than anything. There was absolutely no money in a fight w/ Calzaghe. Furthermore, Hopkins is an HBO fighter, Calzaghe a Showtime fighter. Those are difficult fights to make. Plus, he was chasing Monzon's middleweight defenses record.
And in between he found time to fight a 40-0 Felix Trinidad, and Oscar Delahoya. So stop with the "Hopkins was ducking" crap, it doesnt make sense!
Hopkins never ducked a fighter in his life...Before the Lacy fight Noone was singing the praises of Joe Calzaghe...He had a BS title and wont fight in the US...Hopkins is an all time great...The longest reigning middleweight champion ( I think??) with the most defences..Look at his resume...what did Calzaghe have to offer him??? I suppose Hopkins was supposed to travel to europe to fight him too...Use your head when you post not your heart...Hopkins would have taken Joe apart...And it would have done nothing for Bernards career...Joes most impressive win is over Jeff Lacy...Please tell me you have the common sense to know the diffrence between Lacy and Hopkins....Joe would have been just a W in the column for Bernard...Joe hasn't reached the status of guys like Trinidad or even Joppy to be given the respect of even saying Hopkins was ducking him....
Joe Calzagh is a guy who has held a title in the weakest division in boxing and wont fight out of europe...Nothing more nothing less
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Originally Posted by New Wind
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Originally Posted by Mr. Nightmare
I'm really getting sick and tired of reading posts in here by Joe Calzaghe fans who swear up and down that Bernard Hopkins was ducking this guy.
First off, in America, Calzaghe JUST became a star by beating a young, rising American star. Hopkins is a money whore, more than anything. There was absolutely no money in a fight w/ Calzaghe. Furthermore, Hopkins is an HBO fighter, Calzaghe a Showtime fighter. Those are difficult fights to make. Plus, he was chasing Monzon's middleweight defenses record.
And in between he found time to fight a 40-0 Felix Trinidad, and Oscar Delahoya. So stop with the "Hopkins was ducking" crap, it doesnt make sense!
You need to upgrade yourself – both RJJ and Hopkins avoided Calzaghe as the plague. Even Collins was avoided by RJJ and Hopkins would only play with small boys.
Steve Collins? Are you serious...that's like saying Holyfield and all the others ducked butterbean...Not feeling as if someone is worthy, doesn't mean they're ducking them...it's just that...I'm so tired of all these names being mentioned...Collins, eubank, benn, all of these guys would have been destroyed by RJJ...and JC hasn't left Europe and it would be stupid for Hop to have traveled over there....
Truth be told..Hopkins and JC both can credit RJJ for them dominating their divisions because Roy left MW and SMW...and if you think that JC would have beaten the SMW RJJ you have lost you're fwooking mind...
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Eubank said himself that he didn't want to fight Roy Jones Jr. So who's ducking who ???
Aside from that..Collins who? OOOH the guy that was the Antonio Tarver of back then right ??? Yea I know about him ;)
Anyway, Hopkins never "ducked" a fighter in his life. A fighter needs to make a challenge to you before you duck anyone.
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Originally Posted by The_One77
Hopkins was the better fighter, if anything Joe ducked Hopkins....and Joe is one of my favourite fighters
Calzaghe was chasing Hopkins in 2002/3/4 (somewhere around that time ;D) Hopkins agreed to a fight for 3million quid but then doubled his price and the fight obviously fell through, apparently.
liar ;)
Calzaghe was chasing Sven Ottke back then and spoke of and apparently was making a fight to move up to Light heavyweight and fight Glen Johnson...but he pulled out of that fight because he "broke his hand" ;)
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Originally Posted by raleights
If anyone thinks Hopkins had a chance in a rematch with Roy Jones or in a bout with Calzaghe, you're smoking some good S***. And yeah I'm sure Hopkins was a money whore, but that was his way of not fighting these people ;)
How many people on this forum have jobs? If someone else offered you more money, you'd take it and move companies.
So how is Hopkins more of a money whore than the rest of us?
Very well said... coolclick for you.
As fans we all want to see our fighters solidify a perfect legacy. We forget that they are men making a living. On top of that, alot of these guys aren't qualified to do much else should their boxing career end suddenly, which is always very possible. And on top of that, many of these men come from impoverished backgrounds and just want to make a lot of money, have a solid economic future with no worries, and perhaps get and keep their family out of the struggle they grew up in.
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Originally Posted by New Wind
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Originally Posted by Mr. Nightmare
I'm really getting sick and tired of reading posts in here by Joe Calzaghe fans who swear up and down that Bernard Hopkins was ducking this guy.
First off, in America, Calzaghe JUST became a star by beating a young, rising American star. Hopkins is a money whore, more than anything. There was absolutely no money in a fight w/ Calzaghe. Furthermore, Hopkins is an HBO fighter, Calzaghe a Showtime fighter. Those are difficult fights to make. Plus, he was chasing Monzon's middleweight defenses record.
And in between he found time to fight a 40-0 Felix Trinidad, and Oscar Delahoya. So stop with the "Hopkins was ducking" crap, it doesnt make sense!
You need to upgrade yourself – both RJJ and Hopkins avoided Calzaghe as the plague. Even Collins was avoided by RJJ and Hopkins would only play with small boys.
New Wind, unless Calzaghe was willing to move up to 175 and fight in America, Jones never ducked him. As far as Hopkins fighting the small boys, they were willing to move up and fight him here in America. Nuff said. Otherwise I like Calzaghe
