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Foreman Announces Super Fighter
Foreman announces Superfighter!
May 23, 2006
By David Greene
George Foreman was at the Soho Grand Hotel in Manhattan on Monday announcing a special one-night elimination tournament featuring eight world class heavyweights, who will battle each other in three fights of four rounds each in one exciting evening...for $5 million dollars! The event is expected to be held at the Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne, Australia in October or November. The pay-per-view event has signed heavyweights O'Neil Bell, Shannon Briggs, Chris Byrd, Steve Cunningham, Alexander Dimitrenko, Ty Fields and Samuel Peter. An eighth spot is open and top-rated heavyweights are invited to contact the promoter. A second show is planned in Manhattan in May, 2007, featuring eight world-rated middleweights.
Foreman, who will be joining broadcast partner Colonel Bob Sheridan at ringside, said at the announcement, "Everybody says boxing needs something... (the tournament) is a chance to do something different." Foreman later joked, "I would have beat Muhammad (Ali) if it had been four rounds."
The show will introduce a new scoring system, call time for instant replays and use eight high-definition cameras to capture the action for the pay-per-view audience. (More to follow.)
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Wow,interesting,CC for that bro! Anyone think it will work? I'm not sure about the 4 rounds though!
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The question is, who is going to compete in this circus?
My best guess is guys like Lance Whitaker and Kirk Johnson at best. :-\
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Originally Posted by Hulk
The question is, who is going to compete in this circus?
My best guess is guys like Lance Whitaker and Kirk Johnson at best. :-\
"The pay-per-view event has signed heavyweights O'Neil Bell, Shannon Briggs, Chris Byrd, Steve Cunningham, Alexander Dimitrenko, Ty Fields and Samuel Peter."
It's 5 Million dollars for 4 round fights so I don't see why any fighter would be against it.
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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
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Originally Posted by Hulk
The question is, who is going to compete in this circus?
My best guess is guys like Lance Whitaker and Kirk Johnson at best. :-\
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The pay-per-view event has signed heavyweights O'Neil Bell, Shannon Briggs, Chris Byrd, Steve Cunningham, Alexander Dimitrenko, Ty Fields and Samuel Peter."
It's 5 Million dollars for 4 round fights so I don't see why any fighter would be against it.
Well Oneil Bell and Cunningham are both Cruisers. Ty Fields is not very good, huge, but not very good. And Dimitrenko I have never heard of. So 3 good HWs are signed in Peter, Byrd and Briggs. Still I must say those are better fighters than I ever thought would go for something like this. What if that crazy bastard Oneil Bell won it all? ;D Him and Sam Peter would be freakin Brutal. Overall If I had to pick one guy out of those fighters to win, my money would be on Shannon Briggs. Dude can box, and in 4 round bouts his stamina problems would never come into play.
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so is each fighter fighting 3 times 4 rounds each fight? Sounds intresting.
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Sounds awesome, would be better if it was six rounds though.
If this idea was kept and developed year after year, this could be amazing for boxing.
Anyway my moneys on Sam Peter for this. He can go flat out for four round and knock the stuffing out of these guys. I would of been torn between him and Oneil Bell, but Oneil gets started so late in 12 rounders, will he be able to get his motor going in a 4 rounder?
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I think tihs is a good concept but I just wish all the major belt holders were going to be in it. I wonder since its 4 rounds if the a loss goes on there perminant record. If thats the case then I bet allot of the top guys wont do this. Anyone know?
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Okay, I've got to say that although some of the boxing purists might quibble about the length of the rounds and technical bits like whether it goes on the permanent record or not, I think it is a great thing for the heavyweight division, which hasn't exactly left lay-fans like me panting in anticipation or excitement at a fight, but this does sound ace.
It will give people a benchmark, though obviously not a be-all and end-all benchmark, as to where some of the top fighters, and the lesser names stand in relation to each other, and any upsets in there would boost that boxer's profile no end, and lead to calls for a title shot if they won the tourny.
At last something worth looking forward to in the heavyweight division!
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Butterbean will probably come out of retirement for this !!
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Butterbean will probably come out of retirement for this !!
when did he retire?
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eight world class heavyweights, .......O'Neil Bell, Shannon Briggs, Chris Byrd, Steve Cunningham, Alexander Dimitrenko, Ty Fields and Samuel Peter.
So when are the world class heavyweights going to join in? Sheeeeiiit, Foreman could probably repeat history and KO all eight in one night.
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sounds like a wwe style joke to me, as if the heavyweight division isn't geting enough stick they now plan this as a comeback, 4 rounds, time outs for replays, 3 fights in one night
joke right
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I think this is an excellant idea and being in Australia, Joe Mesi and oldtimers like Hollyfield can jump in the mix
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They had something like this years ago. If you look up Tony Tubbs record I think he won that thing. Boxec has it in his record.
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Well I do remember this stupid show bout 5 or 6 years back called "ThunderBox" and it was the shittest thing I had ever seen. From what I gathered Tim Witherspoon did quite well in it though.
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4 rounds will serve the sluggers like Peter well. He doesn't need stamina in this thing. For four rounds he can just flail his arms like a wild man and hope something lands
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
4 rounds will serve the sluggers like Peter well. He doesn't need stamina in this thing. For four rounds he can just flail his arms like a wild man and hope something lands
True but it also favors a fight being declared a draw. One fighter could easily win two rounds and the other fighter win two rounds as well. Also all a boxer has to do is stay away from a puncher for four rounds and land pitter patt shots and he wins. I don't like the 4 round rule. It is pretty flawed IMO.
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if you want more information, including an explanation of SuperFighter by the founder, interviews with Cunningham, Bell, Foreman, and others... go to http://www.fightbeat.com
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i like it, George is really helping the sport....
good on him
CC
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Im looking forward to this!
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Originally Posted by AC-Cobra
Sounds awesome, would be better if it was six rounds though.
If this idea was kept and developed year after year, this could be amazing for boxing.
Anyway my moneys on Sam Peter for this. He can go flat out for four round and knock the stuffing out of these guys. I would of been torn between him and Oneil Bell, but Oneil gets started so late in 12 rounders, will he be able to get his motor going in a 4 rounder?
He would lose against Chris Byrd though.
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Originally Posted by AC-Cobra
Sounds awesome, would be better if it was six rounds though.
If this idea was kept and developed year after year, this could be amazing for boxing.
Anyway my moneys on Sam Peter for this. He can go flat out for four round and knock the stuffing out of these guys. I would of been torn between him and Oneil Bell, but Oneil gets started so late in 12 rounders, will he be able to get his motor going in a 4 rounder?
He would lose against Chris Byrd though.
Not if Byrd fights the way he did against Wlad. Then it would be lights out for Byrd even sooner IMO.
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
4 rounds will serve the sluggers like Peter well. He doesn't need stamina in this thing. For four rounds he can just flail his arms like a wild man and hope something lands
True but it also favors a fight being declared a draw. One fighter could easily win two rounds and the other fighter win two rounds as well. Also all a boxer has to do is stay away from a puncher for four rounds and land pitter patt shots and he wins. I don't like the 4 round rule. It is pretty flawed IMO.
if you watched the video...which you obviously didn't you would know that there is no chance of a draw...Not hip on the stopping of the fight if suspected fould but I can only assume this would be used if it was a big foul...but the fighters have the opportunity to fight 12 rds in this format so pacing is going to be needed...if you blow it all in the first fight trying to get your man out of there then it will effect you in the second/third fight...i also like the 12 oz gloves...if all you are is a puncher you might not stand a chance, you need some boxing skills to survive this...and it will be harder than a 12rd fight for some because their fight might go 4 rds and their opponent might have won in th 1st...very interesting....i also think the losses should go on you're record...wouldn't a regular 4rd fight be in the W/L column?
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
4 rounds will serve the sluggers like Peter well. He doesn't need stamina in this thing. For four rounds he can just flail his arms like a wild man and hope something lands
True but it also favors a fight being declared a draw. One fighter could easily win two rounds and the other fighter win two rounds as well. Also all a boxer has to do is stay away from a puncher for four rounds and land pitter patt shots and he wins. I don't like the 4 round rule. It is pretty flawed IMO.
if you watched the video...which you obviously didn't you would know that there is no chance of a draw...Not hip on the stopping of the fight if suspected fould but I can only assume this would be used if it was a big foul...but the fighters have the opportunity to fight 12 rds in this format so pacing is going to be needed...if you blow it all in the first fight trying to get your man out of there then it will effect you in the second/third fight...i also like the 12 oz gloves...if all you are is a puncher you might not stand a chance, you need some boxing skills to survive this...and it will be harder than a 12rd fight for some because their fight might go 4 rds and their opponent might have won in th 1st...very interesting....i also think the losses should go on you're record...wouldn't a regular 4rd fight be in the W/L column?
I don't think the losses should go on there record at all. Shite there going to be fighting 3 fights in one day. I think it would be crazy if thats the way it was. Doesn't make any sense to me. Just like I don't think the wins should go on the record ever.
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I really didn't think this would actually happen but it has. Where did George Foreman come from though? When this was announced a couple months ago I thought it was Lennox Lewis who was hosting it?
Also I had felt at that time that the whole event was designed to get Tyson and Tarver in the ring but seemingly not.
If Tyson was in it it would be interesting. As it is it seems virtually impossible for Sam Peter not to win since all he has to do is flay his arms around wildy for 12 minutes which I'm sure he can do.
Suprised Holyfield hasn't signed up for this.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
4 rounds will serve the sluggers like Peter well. He doesn't need stamina in this thing. For four rounds he can just flail his arms like a wild man and hope something lands
True but it also favors a fight being declared a draw. One fighter could easily win two rounds and the other fighter win two rounds as well.
That's false. There are no draws in the tournament.
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Originally Posted by maracho
I think this is an excellant idea and being in Australia, Joe Mesi and oldtimers like Hollyfield can jump in the mix
What do you mean "being in Australia?" I don't know where you've been, but Evander Holyfield is now free to fight anywhere in the US except New York, having had his medical suspension lifted last summer.
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I think the Superfighter idea is a stupid one. The fights in this tournament won't count on a fighter's record, much the same way George Foreman fighting five guys in a night didn't go on his record. They're exhibitions.
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Originally Posted by boonbun
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Originally Posted by maracho
I think this is an excellant idea and being in Australia, Joe Mesi and oldtimers like Hollyfield can jump in the mix
What do you mean "being in Australia?" I don't know where you've been, but Evander Holyfield is now free to fight anywhere in the US except New York, having had his medical suspension lifted last summer.
Nobody likes a know it all prick. >:mad
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Originally Posted by boonbun
I think the Superfighter idea is a stupid one. The fights in this tournament won't count on a fighter's record, much the same way George Foreman fighting five guys in a night didn't go on his record. They're exhibitions.
Exhibitions!!!! EXHIBITION!!!! name one exhibition that the winner get 5 MILLION DOLLARS at the end....wait ...I'll save you the time...THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AN EXHIBITION WITH THIS KIND OF CASH!!!! You don't really fight at exhibitions...for 5 million I would knock the pope out..I think you're a little dense for thinking this is stupid...but you'll come aroun eventually...
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Originally Posted by boonbun
I think the Superfighter idea is a stupid one. The fights in this tournament won't count on a fighter's record, much the same way George Foreman fighting five guys in a night didn't go on his record. They're exhibitions.
Exhibitions!!!! EXHIBITION!!!! name one exhibition that the winner get 5 MILLION DOLLARS at the end....wait ...I'll save you the time...THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AN EXHIBITION WITH THIS KIND OF CASH!!!! You don't really fight at exhibitions...for 5 million I would knock the pope out..I think you're a little dense for thinking this is stupid...but you'll come aroun eventually...
Ah don't pick on the pope. He is having a hard enough time as it is. He's tryin to fill the shoes of the last pope and get his name out there. Benedict I think it is.
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The Russian guy is pretty good around 6'7" but not a lot of power I saw that they are trying to get Roman Greenberg as the last guy
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..for 5 million I would knock the pope out
Nah, he'll get you with his pope-a-dope.
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This sounds AWESOME! I live in Melbourne.....so double AWESOME! We have a guy called Big Bob Mirovic that could fit in that last spot beautifully.
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by boonbun
I think the Superfighter idea is a stupid one. The fights in this tournament won't count on a fighter's record, much the same way George Foreman fighting five guys in a night didn't go on his record. They're exhibitions.
Exhibitions!!!! EXHIBITION!!!! name one exhibition that the winner get 5 MILLION DOLLARS at the end....wait ...I'll save you the time...THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AN EXHIBITION WITH THIS KIND OF CASH!!!! You don't really fight at exhibitions...for 5 million I would knock the pope out..I think you're a little dense for thinking this is stupid...but you'll come aroun eventually...
Well, if bigragu is going to take the final spot in this one, i guess i'll have to put myself as the number one stand-by, but it isn't meant to be a serious look at the heavyweight division, it is an entirely seperate type of boxing match which while linked with the fistic art of boxing is an entirely different split of bananas.
It's like the old argument that 20-20 cricket isn't real cricket (comparison for the brits among you). I maintain the argument that it's just a little sideline to real heavyweight boxing to bring the fighters more spotlight and to bring greater interestto teh sport that the adhd suffering people need to get into boxing. Which are both positive from my pov.