Sad Ali picture... Legend Deteriorating Dramatically in last 12 months

Ailing Muhammad Ali cuts a sad figure as he makes a rare outing-using a Zimmer frame to walk.
The three-time World heavyweight champion had to be helped by a pal as he arrived at a New York hotel.
Ali,64 has fought a 25-year battle against Parkinson's disease.
His condition is said to have deteriorated dramatically over the last 12 months.
Picture by ARNALDO MAGNANI
Story copyright http://www.thesun.co.uk

Shocking pic and just one look at his eyes tell's you there is clearly no-one behind the wheel :(

there was talk of him being ringside for the wlad - brock fight as Laila Ali is on the undercard but cant see it happening judging by that photo :(

Yeah i'd be very suprised if he made it too.
Such a shame to that there's no known cure for Parkinson's disease

So, so sad to see such a maginficent athlete and vivacious personality reduced to this.

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Though it breaks my heart to see him like this........He said in an interview once that he never wants anyone to feel sorry for him......

He said he has had a life that almost no one else can ever have and he is greatful for it all.........

Out of respect for one of my heros I refuse to look at him like a broken down man who suffers....

As far as I am concerned he is the greatest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Saddo

there was talk of him being ringside for the wlad - brock fight as Laila Ali is on the undercard but cant see it happening judging by that photo :(

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Believe me if he wants to be at the fight he will be there. That is the one thing you can't take away from Ali, his determination to do what he sets out to do.

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Originally Posted by X

So, so sad to see such a maginficent athlete and vivacious personality reduced to this.

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

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A bit rich coming from the man who has said many times he couldnt give a fuck about celebrity deaths or misfortunes :-\

Bit of respect for the King wouldn't go amiss on this thread i reckon

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Originally Posted by Smashup

Bit of respect for the King wouldn't go amiss on this thread i reckon

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I do respect Ali smashup its just X normally posts that he couldnt care less that some celebrity who means nothing to him has died.

So wandering why the difference for Ali?

Personally I do think it's a real shame, but then I also thought Steve Irwins death was a tragedy too ;)

He had more balls than any man Ive Known He should be cherished

That is a saddening picture. Thats the thing with father time it waits for noone. And suffering from illness the overall picture looks even more dramatic....

He is indeed still a champ, no matter how weak he is looking...

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Originally Posted by miles

That is a saddening picture. Thats the thing with father time it waits for noone. And suffering from illness the overall picture looks even more dramatic....

He is indeed still a champ, no matter how weak he is looking...

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To be honest Danny Williams usually looks the same whenever he fights, same vacant stare and aura of lifelessness :P

:bowdown: to the king that is ali.

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That is a saddening picture. Thats the thing with father time it waits for noone. And suffering from illness the overall picture looks even more dramatic....

He is indeed still a champ, no matter how weak he is looking...

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To be honest Danny Williams usually looks the same whenever he fights, same vacant stare and aura of lifelessness :P

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Ouch!! ::** :-\

If you wanna post like that then you should get over to my "Will Raleights return?" thread! :P

There is no need to mention the name Danny Williams on this thread. Most tasteless!! :)

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That is a saddening picture. Thats the thing with father time it waits for noone. And suffering from illness the overall picture looks even more dramatic....

He is indeed still a champ, no matter how weak he is looking...

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To be honest Danny Williams usually looks the same whenever he fights, same vacant stare and aura of lifelessness :P

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Ouch!! ::** :-\

If you wanna post like that then you should get over to my "Will Raleights return?" thread! :P

There is no need to mention the name Danny Williams on this thread. Most tasteless!! :)

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I'm actually being an optimist. I mean all you lot are saying how bad Ali looks now as if his life is over, but Danny still fights as a professianal looking pretty much the same, apart from a bigger wasitline and a food trolley instead of a walking frame ;)

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Originally Posted by miles

That is a saddening picture. Thats the thing with father time it waits for noone. And suffering from illness the overall picture looks even more dramatic....

He is indeed still a champ, no matter how weak he is looking...

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To be honest Danny Williams usually looks the same whenever he fights, same vacant stare and aura of lifelessness :P

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Ouch!! ::** :-\

If you wanna post like that then you should get over to my "Will Raleights return?" thread! :P

There is no need to mention the name Danny Williams on this thread. Most tasteless!! :)

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I'm actually being an optimist. I mean all you lot are saying how bad Ali looks now as if his life is over, but Danny still fights as a professianal looking pretty much the same, apart from a bigger wasitline and a food trolley instead of a walking frame ;)

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The Ali picture is sad, but for me it is inevitable that a man at his age and with his condition would start to show wear and tear....

As Ali says, he has lived a life that has been filled with amazing accomplishments. To live a far longer life and achieve very little is perhaps more tragic. Its a matter of perspective...

He is still here and his life, though now more difficult, is still very much intact...

Its not all sadness....

He changed the US for Black Americans
He was a one man movement
My dad took me to see him when i was a nipper,still got the pics 8)

It's very sad to see.

The Parkinson's has taken it's toll as he looks a lot older than 64.

He's had to live with it a lot longer than most, so it was inevitable.

Some of the fights he was in,although legendary bouts were so brutal.
Frazier springs to mind when neither could come out for the 15th round.
Ali collapses moments after and is dragged to his stool.
He took some really bad punishment over the years,anyone who's seen the Holmes fight will agree.
Unreal they even let him climb through the ropes that night.
Was a disgrace >:mad

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Originally Posted by Smashup

Some of the fights he was in,although legendary bouts were so brutal.
Frazier springs to mind when neither could come out for the 15th round.
Ali collapses moments after and is dragged to his stool.
He took some really bad punishment over the years,anyone who's seen the Holmes fight will agree.
Unreal they even let him climb through the ropes that night.
Was a disgrace >:mad

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He chose to do it, and as fight fans we should not knock him for it....

He is a special person, and he did what most of us can and will not do...

He is a boxing legend. No less....

He ain't gonna last long with posts like that methinks
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Originally Posted by Syntax Error

It's very sad to see.

The Parkinson's has taken it's toll as he looks a lot older than 64.

He's had to live with it a lot longer than most, so it was inevitable.

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Not to nit-pick, but Ali has Pugilistic Dementia(Parkinson like symtoms, punch drunk), he doesn't actually have Parkinson's disease. A lot boxing fans refer to it as ordinary Parkinsons disease in order absolve boxing of any blame.

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Originally Posted by Smashup

Some of the fights he was in,although legendary bouts were so brutal.
Frazier springs to mind when neither could come out for the 15th round.
Ali collapses moments after and is dragged to his stool.
He took some really bad punishment over the years,anyone who's seen the Holmes fight will agree.
Unreal they even let him climb through the ropes that night.
Was a disgrace >:mad

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I agree.

He was taking dopamine tablets in 1980, so they must have known that he had Parkinson's.

The boxing authorities & Herbert Muhammad should hang their heads in shame.

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Originally Posted by Smashup

Shocking pic and just one look at his eyes tell's you there is clearly no-one behind the wheel :(

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Nah, I don't think that that's the case, to my knowledge that's not how the condition affects him is it ???

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So, so sad to see such a maginficent athlete and vivacious personality reduced to this.

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

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A bit rich coming from the man who has said many times he couldnt give a F*** about celebrity deaths or misfortunes :-\

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True.

Howver my point was that I cannot give a fuck if someone I don't know or care about dies. Especially when all of society goes into tooth gnashing bleating about it simply because they are expected to.

Muhammad Ali means a lot to me, and I will be genuinely grieving when the time comes.

Others, to whom he means nothing, will not. At least they will be being honest - like I am.
:-\

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Originally Posted by Syntax Error

It's very sad to see.

The Parkinson's has taken it's toll as he looks a lot older than 64.

He's had to live with it a lot longer than most, so it was inevitable.

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Not to nit-pick, but Ali has Pugilistic Dementia(Parkinson like symtoms, punch drunk), he doesn't actually have Parkinson's disease. A lot boxing fans refer to it as ordinary Parkinsons disease in order absolve boxing of any blame.

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Is that true then? I was always under the impression that he had Parkinsons, nothing to do with boxing. Just like Michael J Fox and all the other non-boxers.

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Originally Posted by Spoiled Rotten

WHAT IS EVEN SADDER THEN THIS PHOTO IS THAT THIS MAN BELIEVES IN A FALSE GOD AND A FALSE PROPHET. MAYBE SOMEONE CAN SAVE HIS SOUL BY TELLING HIM THE ONLY WAY TO GOD IS THROUGH JESUS AND THE ONLY WAY FOR SALVATION IS TO BELIEVE IN JESUS. WHAT'S WORSE IS THE SAD FACT THAT AFTER HE DIES FROM THIS HORRIBLE DEATH HE WILL BURN IN ETERNAL HELL FOR BEING A MUSLIM AND BELIEVING IN A FALSE RELIGION ISLAM

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Go troll some other forum fuck face.

Don't feed the trolls people...

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WHAT IS EVEN SADDER THEN THIS PHOTO IS THAT THIS MAN BELIEVES IN A FALSE GOD AND A FALSE PROPHET. MAYBE SOMEONE CAN SAVE HIS SOUL BY TELLING HIM THE ONLY WAY TO GOD IS THROUGH JESUS AND THE ONLY WAY FOR SALVATION IS TO BELIEVE IN JESUS. WHAT'S WORSE IS THE SAD FACT THAT AFTER HE DIES FROM THIS HORRIBLE DEATH HE WILL BURN IN ETERNAL HELL FOR BEING A MUSLIM AND BELIEVING IN A FALSE RELIGION ISLAM

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Oh and sad click for you.
Who says Jesus is the way also? Stop being so narrow minded and stick to the topic eh.

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It's very sad to see.

The Parkinson's has taken it's toll as he looks a lot older than 64.

He's had to live with it a lot longer than most, so it was inevitable.

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Not to nit-pick, but Ali has Pugilistic Dementia(Parkinson like symtoms, punch drunk), he doesn't actually have Parkinson's disease. A lot boxing fans refer to it as ordinary Parkinsons disease in order absolve boxing of any blame.

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Is that true then? I was always under the impression that he had Parkinsons, nothing to do with boxing. Just like Michael J Fox and all the other non-boxers.

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Spot on fella ;)
http://www.factmonster.com/spot/malitimeline1.html
scroll down to the 1980's

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So, so sad to see such a maginficent athlete and vivacious personality reduced to this.

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

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A bit rich coming from the man who has said many times he couldnt give a F*** about celebrity deaths or misfortunes :-\

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True.

Howver my point was that I cannot give a F*** if someone I don't know or care about dies. Especially when all of society goes into tooth gnashing bleating about it simply because they are expected to.

Muhammad Ali means a lot to me, and I will be genuinely grieving when the time comes.

Others, to whom he means nothing, will not. At least they will be being honest - like I am.
:-\

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I'm with X here... kind of... Every time some one dies on the internet there are 1000s of threads full of 'RIP' :( etc... but people are just going through the motions... unless I genuinley feel a connection to the person (such as Ali) or know them then I won't shit: people die all the time.

I don't agree with making jokes about it, disrespectful or not it's not exactly nice for the people who genuinley loved the dead to see all the cheap crap flying around is it?

Spoiled Rotten has left the building ;)

moving this to lets get it one.

Well his spirit is still there stronger than ever, Its just the vehicle it gets around in thats nearly had its day.
Time for another one or a change.

I have yet to stop crying :'(

Oh I just sneakily read back ,what went down!

That bloke (Spoiled rotten) got banned ,hung crap on Ali for a false religion dammed him to hell etc!

That fellow is (IN JUdgment) something his own religion tells him not to go into!
Its a stage on his own path ,it will get reflected back into him as self judgment.

It is judgment of others that is the cause of all our troubles both on earth and in our slow ascension through the many possible dimensions.

There are false ideals in all religions because they are man made.

Its there because we have to work through them so we eventually can come together as one.

Yeshua or (Jesus as the greeks would have you say it) had tolerance of all things becuase he knew that God is love and love allows all things.

The rest of the rules were written as a direction for speed in asscension; not a set of rules for ;you do or else ! as it has been portrayed by all the men who have changed scripture so as to control the masses through each religion.

Forgivness of yourself and then others is the gateway its not the journey or the end there is never an end.

Yeshua is the way and the light that shines the way to begin getting out of here ,but it was spun out of context so that one religion could claim to be the only one as they have all tried.

Religion is not God made, its man made.


We are all blessed we are all forgiven everything at the point of asking.

Then the gate opens.


(thought you may as well know the real truth) ;)

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Originally Posted by Smashup

Ailing Muhammad Ali cuts a sad figure as he makes a rare outing-using a Zimmer frame to walk.
The three-time World heavyweight champion had to be helped by a pal as he arrived at a New York hotel.
Ali,64 has fought a 25-year battle against Parkinson's disease.
His condition is said to have deteriorated dramatically over the last 12 months.
Picture by ARNALDO MAGNANI
Story copyright http://www.thesun.co.uk

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I thought 'The Sun' was like the 'National Inquierer' here in the states? ???

IMO....I don't think the picture is real....

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We are all blessed we are all forgiven everything at the point of asking.


(thought you may as well know the real truth) ;)

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Sorry Andre, I know you hate the coolclicks, but I do what I believe is right.
Have one.
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:)

This is how Ali will be remembered in my eyes ;)
Imo probably his greatest display of pure boxing skill.
His speed is amazing.
[youtube=425,350]oD99VbFzqAg&mode=related&search=[/youtube]

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So, so sad to see such a maginficent athlete and vivacious personality reduced to this.

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

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A bit rich coming from the man who has said many times he couldnt give a F*** about celebrity deaths or misfortunes :-\

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True.

Howver my point was that I cannot give a F*** if someone I don't know or care about dies. Especially when all of society goes into tooth gnashing bleating about it simply because they are expected to.

Muhammad Ali means a lot to me, and I will be genuinely grieving when the time comes.

Others, to whom he means nothing, will not. At least they will be being honest - like I am.
:-\

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I'm with X here... kind of... Every time some one dies on the internet there are 1000s of threads full of 'RIP' :( etc... but people are just going through the motions... unless I genuinley feel a connection to the person (such as Ali) or know them then I won't S***: people die all the time.

I don't agree with making jokes about it, disrespectful or not it's not exactly nice for the people who genuinley loved the dead to see all the cheap crap flying around is it?

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It's hypocritical and patronising to be honest. Basically what X is saying is that when he pays respect to someone who has died it's a worthy and meaningful act but when others do it, it means nothing. Can you (X) not comprehend that the way you feel about Ali, some people might actually have felt the same way about other people?

Personally I was very upset to hear of the death of Steve Irwin, and I'm sure many millions of others were around the world. To suggest that all of them, and me, were just mimicking politically correct banalities whilst your own words of respect towards Ali are somehow heartfelt and more worthy just makes no sense to me.

Paying respects to the dead or the misfortunate is not or certainly should not be a case of miming or going through the politically correct motions. It's about respect, plain and simple. I do not need to have known someone personally in order to feel sorry for their loss, if you do then that says more about yourself than about the rest of the world. ;)

By the way, this was aimed at X not AdamGB :P

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I have yet to stop crying :'(

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over what hun?
Come to papa, M_D will make it all better...