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Who is the most overrated boxer since 2000?
I would suggest Jeff Lacy, Samuel Peter and Bernard Hopkins.
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Originally Posted by Paa Vandring med Mesteren
I would suggest Jeff Lacy, Samuel Peter and Bernard Hopkins.
not bernard hopkins he is great fighter not overrated by any means jeff lacy wasnt overrated until he got beat by joe ::**
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B-Hop???!?! Are you f*cking kidding me?
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I'll say KESSLER ;D
I thought the EXACT SAME THING
Brian Nielsen
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I'll say KESSLER ;D
to be honest i do agree with that a bit just because calzaghe had bit of a off night now since kessler beat beyer most people think kessler would win
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I'll say KESSLER ;D
Kessler? Why? Is he even rated outside DK? :D
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Chris Byrd
better not let starr see that ;D
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Chris Byrd
better not let starr see that ;D
hes as overrated as the cut wlad gave him over his left eye is big.
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He's not overrated, he's tough and he fights well....how many true 168 pounders could flourish at the heavyweight level? Hell JAMES TONEY hasn't legitly won a title....Byrd is a two time champ
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I'm not buying it
....well that's fine cause I ain't selling it
Chris Byrd 1992 Silver Medalist at Middlweight
WBO Title holder
IBF Title holder
It's the truth, the guy is good
Overrated since 2000 HAS to be Mike Tyson
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I'm not buying it
....well that's fine cause I ain't selling it
Chris Byrd 1992 Silver Medalist at Middlweight
WBO Title holder
IBF Title holder
It's the truth, the guy is good
Overrated since 2000 HAS to be Mike Tyson
not much left of tyson to be overrated after 2000 but i can't stand chris byrd.
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Originally Posted by Paa Vandring med Mesteren
I would suggest Jeff Lacy, Samuel Peter and Bernard Hopkins.
I agree with Peter but Bernard Hopkins is not overrated at all. He is one of the few greats of our time. I dont even see how you would come up with his name on a post like this.
Most overrated since 2000 = Wladimir Klitschko (although since training with Steward I will say he's improved a lot), Antonio Margarito (really what awesome fighters has he fought...at least Hatton fought Tzu), Nicolai Valuev, Calvin Brock, Manfredo Jr.,
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peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
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i would say sergio mora but hes the undisputed most overrated boxer ever.
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peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
He floored my #1 pick for the most overrated fighter since 2000 three times and the man with the notoriously glass jaw. I give him props but he couldnt finish the fight and lost one he shoulda won easy with his early performance. He is definitely an overrated piece of shit compared to some of the talent we have had over the years. I doubt he would beat a prime Trevor Berbick, Michael Spinks or Tim Witherspoon.
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peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
You mean "the best heavyweight right now"...at the moment, Wlad was viewed as damaged goods and was seen as a stepping stone for Peter to jump up to the title contention level
Sam Peter isn't overrated...he's decent but no world beater
Calvin Brock isn't overrated he lasted 7 rounds with Wladimir Klitschko...that's good for a guy who hadn't ever fought such a tough puncher before
Valuev....I agree, he's a bum
Wlad is not overrated! He's the best heavyweight out there right now
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I'll give them to you by division
Heavyweight-Nicolay Valuev
Crusierweight-Jean-Marc Mormeck
Light Heavyweight-Clinton Woods
Super Middleweight-Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight-Sam Soliman
Junior Middleweight-Roman Karmazin
Welterweight-Antonio Margarito
Junior Welterweight-Junior Witter
Lightweight-Juan Diaz
Junior Lightweight-Joan Guzman
Featherweight-Scott Harrison
Junior Featherweight-Sergio Medina
Bantamweight-Silence Mabuza
Junior Bantamweight-Jose Navarro
Flyweight-Vic Darchinyan
Junior Flyweight-Brian Viloria
Strawweight-Rodel Mayol
The ones in bold are ridiculously overrated
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peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
You mean "the best heavyweight right now"...at the moment, Wlad was viewed as damaged goods and was seen as a stepping stone for Peter to jump up to the title contention level
Sam Peter isn't overrated...he's decent but no world beater
Calvin Brock isn't overrated he lasted 7 rounds with Wladimir Klitschko...that's good for a guy who hadn't ever fought such a tough puncher before
Valuev....I agree, he's a bum
Wlad is not overrated! He's the best heavyweight out there right now
Wlad would be the favorite against all other boxers all time dispite his brother. He would rape Ali or Rocky.
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I'll give them to you by division
Heavyweight-Nicolay Valuev
Crusierweight-Jean-Marc Mormeck
Light Heavyweight-Clinton Woods
Super Middleweight-Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight-Sam Soliman
Junior Middleweight-Roman Karmazin
Welterweight-Antonio Margarito
Junior Welterweight-Junior Witter
Lightweight-Juan Diaz
Junior Lightweight-Joan Guzman
Featherweight-Scott Harrison
Junior Featherweight-Sergio Medina
Bantamweight-Silence Mabuza
Junior Bantamweight-Jose Navarro
Flyweight-Vic Darchinyan
Junior Flyweight-Brian Viloria
Strawweight-Rodel Mayol
The ones in bold are ridiculously overrated
agreed with antonio by why calzaghe if anything he is underrated since having that off night against bika
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Originally Posted by Paa Vandring med Mesteren
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
You mean "the best heavyweight right now"...at the moment, Wlad was viewed as damaged goods and was seen as a stepping stone for Peter to jump up to the title contention level
Sam Peter isn't overrated...he's decent but no world beater
Calvin Brock isn't overrated he lasted 7 rounds with Wladimir Klitschko...that's good for a guy who hadn't ever fought such a tough puncher before
Valuev....I agree, he's a bum
Wlad is not overrated! He's the best heavyweight out there right now
Wlad would be the favorite against all other boxers all time dispite his brother. He would rape Ali or Rocky.
what ??????????? ali would batter wlad and rocky would ko the glass jaw wlad
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I'm not comparing Wlad to any all-time greats
I'm just saying Wlad is not overrated!
VD I agree with your list, though perhaps Antonio Tarver instead of Woods at light heavy
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I'll give them to you by division
Heavyweight-Nicolay Valuev
Crusierweight-Jean-Marc Mormeck
Light Heavyweight-Clinton Woods
Super Middleweight-Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight-Sam Soliman
Junior Middleweight-Roman Karmazin
Welterweight-Antonio Margarito
Junior Welterweight-Junior Witter
Lightweight-Juan Diaz
Junior Lightweight-Joan Guzman
Featherweight-Scott Harrison
Junior Featherweight-Sergio Medina
Bantamweight-Silence Mabuza
Junior Bantamweight-Jose Navarro
Flyweight-Vic Darchinyan
Junior Flyweight-Brian Viloria
Strawweight-Rodel Mayol
The ones in bold are ridiculously overrated
woods is good fighter he beat glen johnson who koed roy jones yes i know not prime one but still good win woods is good fighter not overrated by any means and why is scott harrison overrated ??
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
You mean "the best heavyweight right now"...at the moment, Wlad was viewed as damaged goods and was seen as a stepping stone for Peter to jump up to the title contention level
Sam Peter isn't overrated...he's decent but no world beater
Calvin Brock isn't overrated he lasted 7 rounds with Wladimir Klitschko...that's good for a guy who hadn't ever fought such a tough puncher before
Valuev....I agree, he's a bum
Wlad is not overrated! He's the best heavyweight out there right now
Brock was definitely overrated. I heard all this talk about he was the next great champ blah blah blah. He looked like shit against WK. Stood in front of him the whole night and waited to get knocked out. Wlad is the best heavyweight right now out there but i still think he's overrated; he is the best of a crop of lackluster talents... him and his brother are both highly overrated IMO cuz people keep comparin them to ali to foreman and other greats who would have mopped the ring with them. Larry Merchant blows that guy up like there is no tomorrow...did u hear when he was all, "...and now Madison Square Garden will await the entrance of this huge, beautiful man..." I was like wow Larry. You must really be on this guy's nuts...
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Ricky Hatton. Especially on this board. One sloppy win against an over-the-hill and inactive Kostya Tszyu and people want to act like he's possibly the #1 p4p fighter in the world, capable of KO'ing Mayweather. Yawn.
On Sam Peter--does anyone really rate the guy well enough to call him overrated? He's probably the #4 or #5 guy in a shite HW division. He's terribly unskilled and probably holds the active boxer rabbit-punching record, but I've never heard anyone say otherwise. And he could probably beat anyone other than Wlad and Toney (who he did not beat last time).
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Oh, also possibly Vargas. I can't quite remember when people realized that he wasn't really that good--could have been before 2000.
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Ricky Hatton.   Especially on this board.  One sloppy win against an over-the-hill and inactive Kostya Tszyu and people want to act like he's possibly the #1 p4p fighter in the world, capable of KO'ing Mayweather.  Yawn.
On Sam Peter--does anyone really rate the guy well enough to call him overrated?  He's probably the #4 or #5 guy in a shite HW division.  He's terribly unskilled and probably holds the active boxer rabbit-punching record, but I've never heard anyone say otherwise.  And he could probably beat anyone other than Wlad and Toney (who he did not beat last time).
people wernt saying he was over the hill before they fought alot of people thought he would take hatton kostya was considered a great and hatton beat him how does that make him overrated ??
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Ricky Hatton. Especially on this board. One sloppy win against an over-the-hill and inactive Kostya Tszyu and people want to act like he's possibly the #1 p4p fighter in the world, capable of KO'ing Mayweather. Yawn.
people wernt saying he was over the hill before they fought alot of people thought he would take hatton kostya was considered a great and hatton beat him how does that make him overrated ??
People should have been saying he was over the hill. He was old and had fought like twice in a four year period. And he had an injured shoulder going into the fight. And it was still very close!
Plus, while Kostya was considered quite good (at his prime), I'm not sure he was ever considered "great," and he was not rated as high p4p as people currently rate Hatton. How beating a #5-10 guy proves that you're capable of beating the #1 guy is a little beyond me. Kind of the definition of "overrating" someone.
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no one thinks he would beat mayweather i think he would give mayweather tough fight u gotta give hatton his dues hes 41-0 and great fighter in my opinion
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Originally Posted by Paa Vandring med Mesteren
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peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
You mean "the best heavyweight right now"...at the moment, Wlad was viewed as damaged goods and was seen as a stepping stone for Peter to jump up to the title contention level
Sam Peter isn't overrated...he's decent but no world beater
Calvin Brock isn't overrated he lasted 7 rounds with Wladimir Klitschko...that's good for a guy who hadn't ever fought such a tough puncher before
Valuev....I agree, he's a bum
Wlad is not overrated! He's the best heavyweight out there right now
Wlad would be the favorite against all other boxers all time dispite his brother. He would rape Ali or Rocky.
what ??????????? ali would batter wlad and rocky would ko the glass jaw wlad
I agree. LOL @ rape ali or rocky. They would both knock either klitschko out. Kudos to the success these big ukrainians have had in a less than less-than-stellar division and heavyweight era. They do move pretty well for giants. The fact remains though that neither have fought anyone of any credibility save for Vitali's failed attempt to wrest the title from a far past his prime Lennox Lewis. Im glad u are a Klitschko fan, Paa. They need fans like you. When i was a kid i would have told you Hulk Hogan could beat anyones ass too. That doesnt mean he could.
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no one thinks he would beat mayweather
c'mon mate. you might be reasonable enough not to, but just look around this board. LOTS of people here are saying exactly this.
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u gotta give hatton his dues hes 41-0 and great fighter in my opinion
look, i'm not saying the guy's shite. you can be good and still overrated if a bunch of people are claiming you're the next coming. it's a little unfortunate, agreed, but it is what it is. we'll see how he does against castillo. i will rate ricky p4p if he manages to keep his "0" through that one, but i don't predict he will.
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no one thinks he would beat mayweather
c'mon mate.  you might be reasonable enough not to, but just look around this board.  LOTS of people here are saying exactly this.
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u gotta give hatton his dues hes 41-0 and great fighter in my opinion
look, i'm not saying the guy's shite.  you can be good and still overrated if a bunch of people are claiming you're the next coming.  it's a little unfortunate, agreed, but it is what it is.  we'll see how he does against castillo.  i will rate ricky p4p if he manages to keep his "0" through that one, but i don't predict he will.
ill agree with that if he does beat castillo im rating him high on my list
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I'll give them to you by division
Heavyweight-Nicolay Valuev
Crusierweight-Jean-Marc Mormeck
Light Heavyweight-Clinton Woods
Super Middleweight-Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight-Sam Soliman
Junior Middleweight-Roman Karmazin
Welterweight-Antonio Margarito
Junior Welterweight-Junior Witter
Lightweight-Juan Diaz
Junior Lightweight-Joan Guzman
Featherweight-Scott Harrison
Junior Featherweight-Sergio Medina
Bantamweight-Silence Mabuza
Junior Bantamweight-Jose Navarro
Flyweight-Vic Darchinyan
Junior Flyweight-Brian Viloria
Strawweight-Rodel Mayol
The ones in bold are ridiculously overrated
woods is good fighter he beat glen johnson who koed roy jones yes i know not prime one but still good win woods is good fighter not overrated by any means and why is scott harrison overrated ??
Harrison biggest wins are against way, way past there primes Tracy Patterson and Tom Johnson. And the much smaller Wayne Mccullough. He got tooken to school by Manuel Medina and his draw against Victor Polo should of been a loss.
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peter isnt overrated he floored the best hw at moment 3 times and took him to full 12 which not many can say they have done
Peter is the second best Heavyweight in the divison right now. the Best of course being 44 year old . EVANDER HOLYFIELD 2007 BABY kickin the shit outta these younigns in 2007 ! O0
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Chris Byrd
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Chris Byrd
He would be overrated if he actually fought every now & then!!!
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Brock was definitely overrated. I heard all this talk about he was the next great champ blah blah blah. He looked like shit against WK. Stood in front of him the whole night and waited to get knocked out. Wlad is the best heavyweight right now out there but i still think he's overrated; he is the best of a crop of lackluster talents... him and his brother are both highly overrated IMO cuz people keep comparin them to ali to foreman and other greats who would have mopped the ring with them. Larry Merchant blows that guy up like there is no tomorrow...did u hear when he was all, "...and now Madison Square Garden will await the entrance of this huge, beautiful man..." I was like wow Larry. You must really be on this guy's nuts...
Brock was undefeated and an unknown going into the fight....if he was as bad as you say he is he would have been KO'd in the first
Name me a current heavyweight that will 100% without a doubt beat Wladimir....that's not "overrated" that's what we call GOOD. Wlad is skilled, it's not his fault HBO put the heir apparent title on his shoulders! I'd agree if this was before the Sanders fight but right now Wladimir has come through adversity and he has really been asked to prove himself and he's done it.
I don't compare him to Ali and Foreman....I think most of the haters do that. The ONLY thing I compare Ali and Wlad with is clinching...that's it
Vitali was damn good too....one of the only fighters I know of that never got knocked down....not once! And he KO'd all but one of the guys he beat.....I don't care who you are fighting that is fucking outstanding!!!
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Originally Posted by Paa Vandring med Mesteren
I would suggest Jeff Lacy, Samuel Peter and Bernard Hopkins.
no way is bernard hopkins. there must be something wrong with your head. he was undisputed middleweight champion and defended the title 20 times also beating great fighters like de la hoya and trinidad. also a light heavyweight champion. jeff lacy is kinda overrated. smauel peter is overrated
