Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: Cotto & Margarito's shots

Well...once again...the networks have done it again.

You guessed it...HBO & ShowTime have broken it off in the debdicated boxing fan's poop chute.

Yeppers. Once again much to the ole Wackster's dismay...theyv'e put on two championship style cards in one day.

Not to mention that...but they've got pretty much the equivalant of 4 of Wacko's favorites on in one night.

Aint that a bitch?!?!?

Anywho, enough of this p!ssin & moanin.

So my fellow pugilistic enthusiasts...Which card is best suited for the DRBR? Which fights does Wacko cover on this grand occassion?

In truth...I had plans to defy all drunken reason & try to cover all 4 of these matches at once...just as I did during the Hopkins Tarver match & the Cotto Malignaggi match last June...but in all truthitude...that was a total cluster fizuck...& I just don't believe that I did my guy Cotto justice by doing so.

My hopes are that the Cotto match will be the opening bout of the ShowTime card...then I can cover the Wright Quartey fight...but I don't believe that it'll work out that way...so...unfortunately...I'll be pulling an all nighter on ShowTime.

That being said...it's time for yet another installment of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round.
On December 2nd, ShowTime is offering two tantalizing matches the knockout hungry boxing
community.

First up will be Miguel Cotto (27 fights with 22 ko’s & 0 losses) against fellow undefeated, Puerto Rican, & powerful southpaw Carlos Quintana (23 fights with 18 ko's & 0 losses) at the Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, New Jersey.

After making either five or six (forgive me...I'm a bit airy this weekend) defenses of his WBO 140 pound title, Cotto finally steps up in weight in an attempt to claim the 147 pound strap that was recently vacated by Ricky Hatton when he unsuccessfully made the jump up & down from 147 back to 140 earlier this year. Turn about is fair play though, as far as the titles & straps go...so it should be noted that Cotto has relinquished his title at 140lbs on the move up to Welterweight for the right to challenge Carlos Quintana. Let it be noted that on top of the bid for the belt...the pride of Puerto Rico is on the line.

Win, lose, or draw...PR wins the night.

The last time we saw Cotto he fought skill to skill, power to punch, & kept his title with a knockdown & then a blood 12 rounder over a slickster puncher in Paulie Malignaggie. The win was a unanimous decision, but as a fan of Cotto's...I can honestly say that I was more impressed with the fact that Malignaggi was able to walk away...albeit in need of plastic surgery from their June, New York battle.

Now...while that might sound bad coming from a Cotto fan...so be it.

Everyone is always ripping in to Cotto...but he keeps on winning & now he's finally doing what most critics cried about...he's fighting beyond his normal weight...granted...it's against someone that weighs roughly in the ball park this time. Most fans have said that Cotto's been fed a steady diet of vets, has beens, & no hopers. Honestly, anyone that knows boxing knows that this is purely wack-assed opinions. Compare Miquel's record of opposition to that of any other up & coming fighters at his age & stage of career. For such a young champion holding a twenty something record...it's a might bit impressive. A large percentage of Cotto's victims have been former world champions, such as Bailey, Maussa, Corley, & most recently Abdulaev & Pinto.

Enough about Cotto...let's talk about Quintana, also known as "El Indio". Quintana hit the pro circuit in 1997 and to his credit won all of his bouts. My issues is that of all the 23 professional fights he's won...only one name really regsiters: Joel Julio. Both fighters were considered up & coming prospects...but oddly enough...Julio was the favored fighter of the night. The fight went 12 rounds & again...to Quintana's credit...he won the fight to the tune of a unanimous decision.

Hence...the shot at Cotto (still considered by some a prospect) and the vacant WBA Welterweight Title. The only questions here in Wacko's eyes are:

#1: Can Quintana take advantage of Cotto on the move up from Light Welterweight? or

#2: Can Cotto handle the speed & skills of a legitamate 147lb fighter & bring his power up to 147lbs?

In the end...those are the same two questions basically with the same two answers...but which man is going to be the YES man?

We shall see...

Also...on the same card Antonio Margarito (33-4, 24 KO’s) battles Josh Clottey (29-1-1, 18 KO’s) for bragging rights to the WBO Welterweight Championship.

Maybe this is the set up for a Cotto Margarito mega-match...but here's the catch...Quintana can box & he didn't come here to be a stepping stone for Cotto's first bout legitamately at 147lbs. The same can, primarily, be said regarding Clottey. Clottey has a lot to gain in defeating Margarito...& he's a damned fine boxer as well...not one of my favorites...but a fine boxer just the same.this could be the night of upsets.

Looking into Antonio Margarito a bit deeper...there are a lot of questions here also.
Margarito is the current WBO world Welterweight champion. Margarito's record stands at 38 fights, 33 wins with 24 ko's, & 4 losses. The thing about Margarito that often comes up are the losses & the competition.

They were all early on in his career...the first came in his 6th contest...the next loss was 4 up & the next 2 up. Margarito ran undefeated in 20 or 21 fights. Margarito has never been knocked out & to my limited knowledge of the man...I don't think that he's been legitamately injured...excluding the loss to Santos. The fight was stopped due to a cut over Margarito's right eyebrow, he was behind on points when the fight was stopped by the accidental headbutt. For some reason...this loss has been the most damning of his career. Odd.

Anywho, quite often fight fans are skeptical of Margarito & most forget his devastating knockout wins over durable opponents such as Gomez, Lewis, Cintron, Diaz, & many others.

Personally...Margarito & his promoter's mouth & bravado have done him in for me...but he is indeed exciting in the ring...it's just that there isn't a notable victim's name on the list, IWO, other than Cintron & "Six Heads"...and honestly...those are as questionable as Margarito. Both names falter when pressed by upper level opposition, as I feel does Margarito.

Like Margarito, Clottey (31 fights, 29 wins with 18 ko's, & 1 loss) has never been knocked out. The only loss on Clottey's record is a disqualification against former Welterweight Champion Carlos Baldomir waaaaaaaaay back in 1999. A loss is loss...but officially...what sticks with me is that Clottey has never counted light bulbs & at the risk of overstating myself on two fighters that I have limited knowledge of...I truly believe that Toney might be underestimating Clottey's abilities & he might just be in for a bit of a surprise. He's not a knockout artist like Margarito, but he can box, he's fast, & he's accuarate. If he get's in there & boxes...on point...it could be Margarito getting frustrated & Clottey moving all night long.

Anywho...as usual...it's getting close to that time once again...& you know what that means?
Yep. It's time to sit back, toss the remote, break out the laptops, or just...casually turn your telee towards your compu-station...because my fellow boyo's...it's fight night!!!

So pop some tops or pour up your poison of choice & head for the couch...wer'e gonna be knee deep up in this shiz once again.

Cheers & koneecheewah bitches.

I voted Cotto & Clottey by decision.

How about you'sa's?

Cotto and Clottey by decision. I think Quintana is going to be slick enough not to get KO'd and Miguel will box will enough to earn a close decision. I prefer that Clottey KO Margarito so we can stop hearing how he is the "most feared boxer", but I think he will do enough to earn a comfortable decision. Dont know much about him but just a feeling.

cc as always wacko, love the DRbR's!!!!!!!!

wacko you've got quite a big round by round, you have 4 fights

You have

Margarito Clottey

Lacy vs. Vitali

Cotto vs. Quintana

and Wright vs. Quartey

How are you gonna do them all?

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Originally Posted by Majesty

wacko you've got quite a big round by round, you have 4 fights

You have

Margarito Clottey

Lacy vs. Vitali

Cotto vs. Quintana

and Wright vs. Quartey

How are you gonna do them all?

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I've done it before..but I doubt that I can do it again...probably just doing the Cotto & Margarito fights.

I hate to pass up on Wright...but the fans demand. ;D

since the Cotto card gonna be pack maybe by the time cotto is fighting hbo fight sare done

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

I voted Cotto & Clottey by decision.

How about you'sa's?

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I like your picks ! only I think Clottey wins via knockout.

Both TKO's...
For Cotto and Margarito.... 8)

Excellent analysis Wacko for the best DRBR of the year for me....my 2 fave fighters! I'm also glad to see you guys that have posted tuhs far acknowledging that Clottey is a very very good,skilled,hard nosed fighter!! I'm going for Cotto,UD and Margarito,either late tko or UD,either way,Margarito CANNOT lose this fight...



Quick Q,of he beats Clottey,will you be impressed seeing as a few of you have predicted he'll lose!

Cotto by KO and Margarito by decision. Cotto has something to prove at welterweight and down the stretch I think Quintanna will decide to punch with him and get caught. Joshua Clottey is a rock, physically, mentally, technically, any way you look at it. He is gonna give Tony a tough fight. But I feel Tony will outbox him and counter him, hurt him some, but not stop him. I'm very happy that the injury to Margarito's ankle or whatever did not keep him from fighting. This is going to be a great great fukin weekend for fight fans, I cannot wait! Cotto, Margarito, Lacy....and ...Wright's boring all defense ass! Should be fukin awesome! Lets go Cotto, Margarito, Lacy and Quartey!

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Excellent analysis Wacko for the best DRBR of the year for me....my 2 fave fighters!

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Thanks babe. :coolclick:

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Quick Q,of he beats Clottey,will you be impressed seeing as a few of you have predicted he'll lose!

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Really really hard for me to say...here's why:

You always pick against my guy outta spite & hope beyond hope that he get's beaten...well...guess what? Yeppers. You got it. Go fwockin Clottey. ;D

Anywho...makes no nevermind to me in all reality...but I just hope that Cotto can get past Quintana.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Quick Q,of he beats Clottey,will you be impressed seeing as a few of you have predicted he'll lose!

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I will depend on how Margarito wins the fight. If he wins decisively then he gets his props, if it is a tough fight then I think Clottey will get more props for it because he is less known commodity. And you know if he loses then he goes down the drain, sad but true. If he thought he couldnt get fights before, if he loses he wont be getting any decent fights.

quintana cotto fight is huge...I think its the biggest fight this weekend...

both undefeated its gonna be a great fight...I like both fighters but quintana looks more solid I`m kinda leaning more towards him to win...he can box cotto just like the cuban who was suppose to be a huge puncher but quintana dominated him...but I don't know I don't think cotto can aford to lose...both has bright futures though...this fight is the only fight I'm not sure of who to pick but for the rest of the fights this weekend I have.

margarito by u.d.
lacy by k.o
winky by u.d.

CC for the DRBR, Wacko...

The Miles kiss of death goes as follows :lightingzapA: :scratchchin: :toff:

Margarito
Lacy
Cotto....and shock...gasp :o

Im picking Quartey to bazooka 'Winky' Wright!!! ;D

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Originally Posted by miles

CC for the DRBR, Wacko...

The Miles kiss of death goes as follows :lightingzapA: :scratchchin: :toff:

Margarito
Lacy
Cotto....and shock...gasp :o

Im picking Quartey to bazooka 'Winky' Wright!!! ;D

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CC for picking Quartey. Quartey and Winky's style is eerily similar, that's gonna be a great fight. I'm definitely going for Quartey. Lacy should win. I've got Bob Arum's worst nightmare happening in the Showtime card, Margarito will lose in a UD, and Cotto is gonna get KOed. Realistically, I just want Tony to lose but I don't really think he will, I actually believe Cotto will lose.

I'm going with

Quintana by decision
Margarito by KO
Lacy by KO
Wright by decision

Cotto by KO.
Margarito by UD.
Wright by UD.
Lacy by KO.

I voted Cotto by KO and Margarito by KO. I think they both have their hands extremely full though, and a KO for Cotto would be a sensational result against an excellent fighter in Quintana. I think that Margarito can get his right inside Clottey's guard and score a mid-late KO. I'll say 8th round for Margarito and 10th for Cotto. If Cotto can beat Quintana and looks good, then he definatly deserves a place in the P4P top 10 IMO.
Also..
Lacy KO 4
Wright UD

Sorry folks, I won't be gracing y'all with my presence and my insight this weekend, sadly, I have to be elsewhere on a residential mountain rescue course in the Cambrian Mountains. Hell, at least it means that I won't wake up around 3pm on sunday having stayed up for the forum, and I might even get to work on Monday fairly fresh!

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Sorry folks, I won't be gracing y'all with my presence and my insight this weekend, sadly, I have to be elsewhere on a residential mountain rescue course in the Cambrian Mountains. Hell, at least it means that I won't wake up around 3pm on sunday having stayed up for the forum, and I might even get to work on Monday fairly fresh!

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Fwockin sellout! Go save some lives. :coolclick: :-*

I think Quintana by decision, Margarito by decision (also Lacy by TKO and Wright by decision).

I voted "I don't care" on the Margarito fight, but I think he's too active to not win by decision. No way in hell he knocks Clottey out though--Clottey is a rock and Margarito doesn't really hit very hard (his KOs are all cumulative from the non-stop punching); I don't see someone like Clottey getting KO'd by anyone without serious one-punch power.

My picks.

Miguel Cotto win via TKO in da' 11th
Margarito win via KO in da' 10th
Lacy Who cares? Was exposed by Joe C. Unintrested.
Wright win by UD

;)

Thank you for the round by round and let's hope the server holds up better than the last time during PAC/EM.

>:mad

CC in 24 for the rBr wacko. Looking forward to this one and glad you chose the showtime card over the hbo card!

I have a feeling there is going to be some good stuff from these 4 headliners on the showtime card trying to make big names for themselves, I think everyone of them knows whats at stake for there careers and it's going to make for some great fights.

still, I see:

Margarito winning via tko in rounds 4-6
Cotto via KO rounds 8-9
Lacy by KO round 4
Wright via decision

All "safe" choices, but really can't pick against any of the favorites.



I'm hoping for at least one upset..just for the sake of it. I would love to see either Clottey or Quintana pull out a win!

:coolclick: to all on board the DRBR weekend rollercoaster ride...

I still really want to cover all the rounds...so there may be some bits & pieces of the HBO card...but I'm sticking to the Cotto card for the most part.

Cheers & koneecheewah bitches.

5 of my fighters this week(Cotto,Tony,Lacy,Winky and Bautista_),it's going to be the best weekend of boxing for me!!!

I'm most nervous about the Clottey fight,just saw a few more of his fights and he is very verry skilled BUT very very dirty too!! Headbutts,holding and hitting,low blows etc etc! I don't want to see any cuts!

Cotto,first fight at 147,it should be a great fight AS LONG AS COTTO DOES NOT LET THE CROWD FWOCKING GET TO HIM! I think sometimes,he lets the crowd get to him and tries to go for the KO too much,he needs to be patient,stalk,box,work behind the jab and Quintana is open to body shots but I'm still worried,an all PR affair,may be he will try to impress too much? It will also answer questions about his chin(if anyone has any),Quintana is a big strong WW..

Winky I think should win comfortably...Ike is moving up right? They have slightly similar styles but I think Winky has mastered it better,the only type of fighter I see troubling Winky is someone with high activity,who can break through his guard because I don't see anyone outjabbing Winky etc

I don't much about Lacy's opponent but he needs a good showing because having a quick look around on opinions on Jeff,some people think he's shot?! I would not go so far because I have heard and even in the JC fight,you can see, he was very strong mentally,had great spirit. I have heard Tsypko could be tough but I want see Lacy manhandle him en route to a KO!!

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I don't much about Lacy's opponent but he needs a good showing because having a quick look around on opinions on Jeff,some people think he's shot?! I would not go so far because I have heard and even in the JC fight,you can see, he was very strong mentally,had great spirit. I have heard Tsypko could be tough but I want see Lacy manhandle him en route to a KO!!

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Truely...I think that Tsypko is the worst fight to take after Lacy's last fight...but it's a credit to his character to take such a tuffy.

The first fight was a rough & tough tumble that ended in a bit of a bloody cut fest for Tsypko.

Ok my picks

Quintana by UD
Margarito by TKO but I voted UD by mistake :-\
Lacy by TKO
Wright by UD

I really see Cotto being upset this weekend.

I know nothing about Clottey whatsoever and I'm presuming not many of you have seen him fight much either so I'm suprised so many are picking him to beat Margarito ???

At least Quintana has shown against Julio that he is slick, and most importantly unfazed by facing a big name. He'll be right up for this especially seeing as Cotto hasn't looked the most resiliant in recent outings.

Lacy should get back to winning ways. I think the ref will give him a helping hand by stopping a gutsy Tsypko a bit prematurely.

Wright against Quartey I see as being a dull 12 rounder easy UD for Wright.

I like the Quartey to make the HOF if he pulls the major upset on Wright, but I don't see it happening.

Wright
Margarito
Cotto.

weigh in photos here...

http://www.saddoboxing.com/4393-quin...margarito.html

Lacy loses by D, Margarito wins by 5th round ko, and Cotto gets ko in the 2.

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Lacy loses by D, Margarito wins by 5th round ko, and Cotto gets ko in the 2.

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...and Wright?

http://www.fightnews.com/cotto_ac1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Puya

http://www.fightnews.com/cotto_ac1.jpg

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He looks so different :o

Found some highlight videos of...

Enjoy!!! gonna be a cracking night.... 8)

Quintana vs. Julio
[youtube=425,350]0zY87jpWElk[/youtube]


Cotto vs. Paulie
[youtube=425,350]TVfy5NAMZAA[/youtube]

And some more.... Highlight videos...


Clottey vs. Henry
[youtube=425,350]tOcDe-Lfsk8[/youtube]


Margarito vs. Gomez
[youtube=425,350]jKLwsJ2GPWM[/youtube]

Cotto looks awesome at 147! Healthier and pretty ripped too! And Margarito looks in great condition too,I just hope his ankle is ok!

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And some more.... Highlight videos...


Clottey vs. Henry
[youtube=425,350]tOcDe-Lfsk8[/youtube]

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Cool Click #824, Thanks for the highlights ! ;)

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Cotto looks awesome at 147! Healthier and pretty ripped too! And Margarito looks in great condition too,I just hope his ankle is ok!

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He has a bad ankle, hand, and no quality sparring parters to prepare for this fight.
Clotty's triple left hook is fanastic! :o

Good fight night tonight. Too good, heheh.

cc#465 Lords Gym
Good to hear you enjoyed, it... :)

I know it's an off subject from the current matter...but what if...all the favs lose tonight & next weekend?

That would be assive upset of the year material...correct?