Ricky Hatton-Roberto Duran at Jr. Welterweight

I think this would be a very interesting fight. Both had similar styles and both were (in Rickys case, are) known to blow up in weight between fights. I think at Jr. Welterweight both would be at a good advantage assuming both are in their prime. I think this one goes to the cards with Hands of Stone taking a close decision over Hatton due to his very slight edge in mostly every round..more so toward the end of the fight.

This would be a fight that would be grueling to watch. I'm just imagining the amount of body work in this fight. Both fighters would leave pissing out blood.

u guys are so bad--so bad---ricky couldnt even handle luis collazo at 147 and u think he would have a close fight with the great duran??????????? at any weight?????????????????? the same duran who went on to be an all time great welter and win the middleweight title also? who went 12 close rds with a prime hagler when he was past his? you guys are nuts----hatton is the most overrated fighter ever--im not so sure he survives urango---he sure wont push him around

This topic is sooo fuking stupid, why would anyone on planet earth even put Hatton in the same ring with Duran at any weight. Hatton would get bludgeoned to death. Hatton will be undressed and exposed in his next big fight.

Come on now, give Ricky a little credit. 147 is obviously not his weight class. At 140, he'll be a tough fight for anyone.

I love Ricky Hatton to bits, one of the best role models in Boxing. But Duran thats about as funny as Rock Hudson giving blood.

I like Ricky, think he is great for the sport. However, Duran at 140 stops Ricky. Around the 8th sounds about right, with Hatton's face a bloddy mess!

Putting Hatton in with his idol is CRAZY, Duran would annihilate him, Duran would stop him by round 10, infact Duran would stop any of the guys today ie Mayweather, Castillo, Corrales and Cotto etc.

Last night I watched Duran v Palamino again, that will give you an indication of how it would have panned out, that was a 10 rounder.

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Originally Posted by Bigsexy

This topic is sooo fuking stupid, why would anyone on planet earth even put Hatton in the same ring with Duran at any weight. Hatton would get bludgeoned to death. Hatton will be undressed and exposed in his next big fight.

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Listen, Duran is my favorite fighter ever hands down and imo the toughest. I just think it would be a great fight stylistically

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

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Originally Posted by Bigsexy

This topic is sooo fuking stupid, why would anyone on planet earth even put Hatton in the same ring with Duran at any weight. Hatton would get bludgeoned to death. Hatton will be undressed and exposed in his next big fight.

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Listen, Duran is my favorite fighter ever hands down and imo the toughest. I just think it would be a great fight stylistically

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Your right it would be a good fight while it lasted, but Hands of Stone was just to good, to bloody good.

The only thing that comes to mind is......


They are WORLDS apart. IMO...... :)

Foolish thread. Duran would torture Hatton. I would love to see Hatton try and fight dirty against Duran. Hatton wouldn't make it out the third round

Even though I'm no fan of Ricky Hatton I will say this, and this is not just about him, but all current fighters and particularly about all hypothetical matchups between all time greats and current fighters. I think many fans, especially ones on this board, are misguided in thinking that an all time great fighter will simply steamroll fighters of today. It's not the case. Duran is no doubt better than Hatton, and would certainly win because he was better in all phases, but he was not light years better in all phases. He is light years ahead in terms of greatness, and I think people on this board let that incorrectly influence how they see a fight like this playing out. Duran's resume has nothing to do with him actually getting in the ring and fighting. Each fighter can simply take one fight at a time, and it only matters what happens on that given night. I think people also need to realize that if magically 20 of these hypothetical fights between all time hall of famers and current top p4p fighters took place, I'm willing to bet that many on this board feel as if the all time greats would win all 20, but in reality it would probably split somewhere near 10-10. Just as people always defend all time greats as saying they trained the same way as current fighters so science and nutrition of today would not help today's fighters, you need to realize the same is true for the opposite. Fighters of today train just as fighters of yesterday, and all time greats hold no advantage either. They simply hold the illusion over some fans that they're for some reason untouchable by today's fighters, and it's ridiculous.

Hatton has no chance against Duran

Hatton has not yet proved that he would stand a chance against Duran.Hopfully in the future this might change.

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Originally Posted by skyler

Even though I'm no fan of Ricky Hatton I will say this, and this is not just about him, but all current fighters and particularly about all hypothetical matchups between all time greats and current fighters. I think many fans, especially ones on this board, are misguided in thinking that an all time great fighter will simply steamroll fighters of today. It's not the case. Duran is no doubt better than Hatton, and would certainly win because he was better in all phases, but he was not light years better in all phases. He is light years ahead in terms of greatness, and I think people on this board let that incorrectly influence how they see a fight like this playing out. Duran's resume has nothing to do with him actually getting in the ring and fighting. Each fighter can simply take one fight at a time, and it only matters what happens on that given night. I think people also need to realize that if magically 20 of these hypothetical fights between all time hall of famers and current top p4p fighters took place, I'm willing to bet that many on this board feel as if the all time greats would win all 20, but in reality it would probably split somewhere near 10-10. Just as people always defend all time greats as saying they trained the same way as current fighters so science and nutrition of today would not help today's fighters, you need to realize the same is true for the opposite. Fighters of today train just as fighters of yesterday, and all time greats hold no advantage either. They simply hold the illusion over some fans that they're for some reason untouchable by today's fighters, and it's ridiculous.

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Good post.

Let's turn this on it's head for a second:-

Prime Kostya Tszyu V Duran?

Kostya by KO i think even though Duran is a bad ass.

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Originally Posted by skyler

Even though I'm no fan of Ricky Hatton I will say this, and this is not just about him, but all current fighters and particularly about all hypothetical matchups between all time greats and current fighters. I think many fans, especially ones on this board, are misguided in thinking that an all time great fighter will simply steamroll fighters of today. It's not the case. Duran is no doubt better than Hatton, and would certainly win because he was better in all phases, but he was not light years better in all phases. He is light years ahead in terms of greatness, and I think people on this board let that incorrectly influence how they see a fight like this playing out. Duran's resume has nothing to do with him actually getting in the ring and fighting. Each fighter can simply take one fight at a time, and it only matters what happens on that given night. I think people also need to realize that if magically 20 of these hypothetical fights between all time hall of famers and current top p4p fighters took place, I'm willing to bet that many on this board feel as if the all time greats would win all 20, but in reality it would probably split somewhere near 10-10. Just as people always defend all time greats as saying they trained the same way as current fighters so science and nutrition of today would not help today's fighters, you need to realize the same is true for the opposite. Fighters of today train just as fighters of yesterday, and all time greats hold no advantage either. They simply hold the illusion over some fans that they're for some reason untouchable by today's fighters, and it's ridiculous.

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Good post.

Let's turn this on it's head for a second:-

Prime Kostya Tszyu V Duran?

Kostya by KO i think even though Duran is a bad a**.

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No offence Gomez and I'm not taking anything away from Tszyu, Tszyu was stopped by Phillips and Hatton NO WAY in a million years would Tszyu KO Duran, Duran has only been stopped once in his entire carreer and that was when he was past his best.

Tszyu would never beat Duran let alone stop him, Duran wins by TKO round 10 or 11.

Duran would have ko'd kostya without a doubt .

this would be a good match up. meaning style wise we would see an all out slugfest. and there was no one better or tougher than roberto duran ive watched alot of durans fights and the guy was an animal. im a big fan of hatton also. this would be a great fight and the people out there who say duran would steamroll hatton are wrong hattons tougher than people think. never the less i would still pick duran to win but not by knockout you would have to kill both fighters to stop them literally kill them. i hope people who say on here that duran would kill hatton have seen durans fights and are not just goin on the fact durans an all time great so there for he must be able to kill hatton its stupid. yes hatton had a bad night against collazo theres no doubt. but ive seen duran fights where he has had bad nights also. i dont think tho you can judge this properly until hattons finished his career and seen what he has accomplished. then you can judge it properly. hatton could one day achieve the greatness he so desperately strives for. and at the minute the mans 41 and 0 and counting. all im sayin is i would pick duran by descision on this present day. but maybe we have to wait and see what hatton goes on and accomplishess. before we can compare properly. PEACE.

Good post ;)

Glad to see some people are at least playing devils advocate.

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Originally Posted by paddy448

i hope people who say on here that duran would kill hatton have seen durans fights and are not just goin on the fact durans an all time great so there for he must be able to kill hatton its stupid.

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Spot on mate. That goes for just about any past V present fights.

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Originally Posted by skyler

Even though I'm no fan of Ricky Hatton I will say this, and this is not just about him, but all current fighters and particularly about all hypothetical matchups between all time greats and current fighters. I think many fans, especially ones on this board, are misguided in thinking that an all time great fighter will simply steamroll fighters of today. It's not the case. Duran is no doubt better than Hatton, and would certainly win because he was better in all phases, but he was not light years better in all phases. He is light years ahead in terms of greatness, and I think people on this board let that incorrectly influence how they see a fight like this playing out. Duran's resume has nothing to do with him actually getting in the ring and fighting. Each fighter can simply take one fight at a time, and it only matters what happens on that given night. I think people also need to realize that if magically 20 of these hypothetical fights between all time hall of famers and current top p4p fighters took place, I'm willing to bet that many on this board feel as if the all time greats would win all 20, but in reality it would probably split somewhere near 10-10. Just as people always defend all time greats as saying they trained the same way as current fighters so science and nutrition of today would not help today's fighters, you need to realize the same is true for the opposite. Fighters of today train just as fighters of yesterday, and all time greats hold no advantage either. They simply hold the illusion over some fans that they're for some reason untouchable by today's fighters, and it's ridiculous.

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I understand what your saying and you have a point. But it still don't change the fact that Duran would destroy Hatton. Easily

Good post Skyler..and Duran Hatton would have been awesome but I just think Duran was the better overall fighter,had slightly better power and just was well better than Hatton in most departments. and no fooking way would Tszyu KO Duran,no way..

Only one possible result. Duran wins by KO...

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

I think this would be a very interesting fight. Both had similar styles and both were (in Rickys case, are) known to blow up in weight between fights. I think at Jr. Welterweight both would be at a good advantage assuming both are in their prime. I think this one goes to the cards with Hands of Stone taking a close decision over Hatton due to his very slight edge in mostly every round..more so toward the end of the fight.

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This would be one of the greatest mismatches in boxing history....and Duran would be in jail for murder!!

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Originally Posted by LawHoops

u guys are so bad--so bad---ricky couldnt even handle luis collazo at 147 and u think he would have a close fight with the great duran??????????? at any weight?????????????????? the same duran who went on to be an all time great welter and win the middleweight title also? who went 12 close rds with a prime hagler when he was past his? you guys are nuts----hatton is the most overrated fighter ever--im not so sure he survives urango---he sure wont push him around

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I agree. Duran is probably the greatest lightweight of all time. At just one class above, he would stomp the shit out of Hatton. It would be interesting for probably one or two rounds then Hatton gets worked over and KOed.

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Originally Posted by paddy448

this would be a good match up. meaning style wise we would see an all out slugfest. and there was no one better or tougher than roberto duran ive watched alot of durans fights and the guy was an animal. im a big fan of hatton also. this would be a great fight and the people out there who say duran would steamroll hatton are wrong hattons tougher than people think. never the less i would still pick duran to win but not by knockout you would have to kill both fighters to stop them literally kill them. i hope people who say on here that duran would kill hatton have seen durans fights and are not just goin on the fact durans an all time great so there for he must be able to kill hatton its stupid. yes hatton had a bad night against collazo theres no doubt. but ive seen duran fights where he has had bad nights also. i dont think tho you can judge this properly until hattons finished his career and seen what he has accomplished. then you can judge it properly. hatton could one day achieve the greatness he so desperately strives for. and at the minute the mans 41 and 0 and counting. all im sayin is i would pick duran by descision on this present day. but maybe we have to wait and see what hatton goes on and accomplishess. before we can compare properly. PEACE.

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You have a point,

but amongst other fighters I also have everysingle Duran fight on DVD apart from the 2 against Paz and 1 or 2 others.

Once again Duran by KO - NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

I think this would be a very interesting fight. Both had similar styles and both were (in Rickys case, are) known to blow up in weight between fights. I think at Jr. Welterweight both would be at a good advantage assuming both are in their prime. I think this one goes to the cards with Hands of Stone taking a close decision over Hatton due to his very slight edge in mostly every round..more so toward the end of the fight.

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This would be one of the greatest mismatches in boxing history....and Duran would be in jail for murder!!

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I'd actually go with Hatton in the one ! great action fight. Never seen Hatton even close to quitting ;)

I remember an old out of condition Duran Sparring with a fit Nigel Benn whose orders from the management were to KO Duran who was drinking a bottle of whiskey a day at the time, and that backfired, he did things that made you smile. You were in the pressence of a master

Firstly Duran is probably p4p in the top 5 or 6 fighters the world has ever seen.

I have little doubt he would beat Ricky Hatton convincingly, but really p1sses me off when you get clueless whelks like Lawhoops still slating Hatton. He had a bad night and was ill prepared at 147, but he still won (Just). Have you ever seen Duran V Kirland Laing!! Fighters have bad nights! Hatton has had 1 bad night in over 40 fights, where he has barely lost a round in his career and forced a legend to quit on his stool. He may not be Roberto Duran, but who is!!

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

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Originally Posted by THE Bigragu

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

I think this would be a very interesting fight. Both had similar styles and both were (in Rickys case, are) known to blow up in weight between fights. I think at Jr. Welterweight both would be at a good advantage assuming both are in their prime. I think this one goes to the cards with Hands of Stone taking a close decision over Hatton due to his very slight edge in mostly every round..more so toward the end of the fight.

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This would be one of the greatest mismatches in boxing history....and Duran would be in jail for murder!!

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I'd actually go with Hatton in the one ! great action fight. Never seen Hatton even close to quitting ;)

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Never seen Hatton fight someone of the calibre of SRL tho, who could frustrate you to the point of quitting.

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Originally Posted by Scrap

I remember an old out of condition Duran Sparring with a fit Nigel Benn whose orders from the management were to KO Duran who was drinking a bottle of whiskey a day at the time, and that backfired, he did things that made you smile. You were in the pressence of a master

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Please have CC # 212 - I have that footage in my collection.

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I remember an old out of condition Duran Sparring with a fit Nigel Benn whose orders from the management were to KO Duran who was drinking a bottle of whiskey a day at the time, and that backfired, he did things that made you smile. You were in the pressence of a master

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Please have CC # 212 - I have that footage in my collection.

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i would love to see Roberto Duran drunk beating up on Nigle Benn. .. can you post that footage mate?

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

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I remember an old out of condition Duran Sparring with a fit Nigel Benn whose orders from the management were to KO Duran who was drinking a bottle of whiskey a day at the time, and that backfired, he did things that made you smile. You were in the pressence of a master

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Please have CC # 212 - I have that footage in my collection.

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i would love to see Roberto Duran drunk beating up on Nigle Benn. .. can you post that footage mate?

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He wasn't drunk at the time, but he was very out of shape as he was drinking alot at the time, I'm not sure how to post it as I have it on VHS.

By the way - the whole quitting thing - I think we all have clarity on that now, Duran said " he doesn't want to fight with this clown" as leonard was more interesting in dancing rather than fighting and Duran said I gave him a rematch straight away so should he, but we all know that leonard and his team refused to give Duran a rematch - they waited 9 fooking years!

But I agree with BIG H Duran is in the TOP 5 greatest fighters EVER!

Roberto Duran is one of my Fav's of all time also !

Iwas in charge of the sparring Duran had already sparred before, it wasnt a clinic by any means but ben tried to dominate but it wasnt happening. To Duran it was another day at the office. Makes you wonder how good he could have been if Hed lived the life, beside the whiskey he was having3 bottles of champers a day fuckin incredible and to top it all was a great guy to be around very warm. and to think how long his career was incredible.

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Originally Posted by Scrap

Iwas in charge of the sparring Duran had already sparred before, it wasnt a clinic by any means but ben tried to dominate but it wasnt happening. To Duran it was another day at the office. Makes you wonder how good he could have been if Hed lived the life, beside the whiskey he was having3 bottles of champers a day fuckin incredible and to top it all was a great guy to be around very warm. and to think how long his career was incredible.

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Spot on ! ! I like him ! I liked his style... O0

Also there is nothing Hatton has done that would lead me to believe he would beat Duran. NOTHING!

I think style wise (read this carefully and notice I'm a huge JCC fan) Hatton would match up better style wise against JCC. Still I don't think he candle JCC either. :)

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Also there is nothing Hatton has done that would lead me to believe he would beat Duran. NOTHING!

I think style wise (read this carefully and notice I'm a huge JCC fan) Hatton would match up better style wise against JCC. Still I don't think he candle JCC either. :)

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;) I gotta tell yeah I love this Hatton kid, I really do .Rick is one smothering, non stop in your face fighter. reminds me of Wayne McCullough with power.. I like his chances against any of the brawler type jr welterweight or welterweights. his problems will come from a slick boxer in a big ass 27 foot ring. , O0

I love Duran and JJC also. both on my all time favorite list.. great fight that would be.. Hatton vs either guy.. thrill fest ;)

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Also there is nothing Hatton has done that would lead me to believe he would beat Duran. NOTHING!

I think style wise (read this carefully and notice I'm a huge JCC fan) Hatton would match up better style wise against JCC. Still I don't think he candle JCC either. :)

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;) I gotta tell yeah I love this Hatton kid, I really do .Rick is one smothering, non stop in your face fighter. reminds me of Wayne McCullough with power.. I like his chances against any of the brawler type jr welterweight or welterweights. his problems will come from a slick boxer in a big ass ring 27 foot ring. , O0

I love Duran and JJC also. bothon my all time favorite list.. great fight that would be.. Hatton vs either guy.. thrill fest ;)

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I like his fighting style too, but more then anything promotional problems, weight, lay-off time has gotten the best of his career. Mans got talent but IMO he spent the 1st part of his career in England and the 2nd sitting just wasting time. Right after Tszyu he should have jumped all ober the division kicking ass left and right. Instead it took him 5 months to decide on a opponent and not only that but by that time people were tired of hearing who was gonna fight next. It was ALL talk but NO action and that finally cut the last string that was left for me.

Once Hatton fights, win or lose against someone like PBF, ODLH, Mosley, you know one of the big american fighters that can't have holes picked into them then you can use that as a yardstick for any of these hypothetical match ups, you know, when Hatton beat Tszyu he went from being the most dominant and greatest junior lightweight champion of all time and a p4p top 3 (#1 for most let us not forget), and overnight became this old guy who was ring rusty and overated, so we still don't know how good Hatton is.
Personally I can't judge this one because i don't have a time machine, and haven't seen anyone better than duran at lightweight that has beaten hatton, or anyone at 140/135 who is definatly better than hatton at the minute.