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Is there anyone out there to give Mayweather a good boxing match
There are a lot of guys who will give Mayweather a good FIGHT Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Oscar II, Mosley, but is there anyone who will actually try to box with him out there? Robinson never had that great boxer to go against, and I wish he had, I think MAyweather is in the same boat, except he doesn't have the power, and he isn't great against southpaws, and Spinks is the only person who I could see being able to box him. I love Leonard-Hearns, Leonard-Benitez because it showed boxer against boxer, and I liked Roy JOnes jr-Hopkins as premature as they were. I hope that Mosley would box Mayweather, but I think he would resort to trying to overwhelm Mayweather with punches. Maybe I am being silly, but it seems like every fight from Hatton to Cotto to Margarito will look the same because they all fight the same.
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Right now I think Paul Williams comes to mind as far as boxing. Maybe Cintron or Berto if they ever got a shot at Floyd, though I think Berto would probably end up trying to maul Floyd after a few rounds.
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IMO if Winky stayed at 154 it would have been a great boxing match...Not for the fans of KO's but a great fight for purist...
I will get SC'd for this but IMO Spinks has a great chance of beating him if he came in top shape.....
At worst he would give Floyd fits
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Honestly...I have to say no.
Floyd's output is what I think everyone will have issues with.
The only person that I think could give Floyd severe issues is the person that I think will defeat Cotto in November...& that's the only person that's fighting him:
SUGAR SHANE MOSLEY!!
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The one fighter who would of gave Mayweather a great fight was Joel Casamayor at 130. It's a shame that fight never happened.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
The one fighter who would of gave Mayweather a great fight was Joel Casamayor at 130. It's a shame that fight never happened.
Hell yeah that would have been a great fight....Floyd would also not be undefeated right now if it did come off
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Vernon Forrest and Shane Mosley spring to mind. Judah did pretty well too at times. Spinks is a fair shout, but I think Mayweather's speed would pose huge problems.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
The one fighter who would of gave Mayweather a great fight was Joel Casamayor at 130. It's a shame that fight never happened.
I just don't feel it.
Maybe if it was a match of elbows & headbutts...but that'd be the only way Casa would come out on top.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
The one fighter who would of gave Mayweather a great fight was Joel Casamayor at 130. It's a shame that fight never happened.
I just don't feel it.
Maybe if it was a match of elbows & headbutts...but that'd be the only way Casa would come out on top.
Casamayor is very slick and crafty as a southpaw, but I tend to agree with Wack, imagine it was the ams I think he'd struggle with Floyd.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
The one fighter who would of gave Mayweather a great fight was Joel Casamayor at 130. It's a shame that fight never happened.
I just don't feel it.
Maybe if it was a match of elbows & headbutts...but that'd be the only way Casa would come out on top.
Casamayor is very slick and crafty as a southpaw, but I tend to agree with Wack, imagine it was the ams I think he'd struggle with Floyd.
:coolclick: Agreed. Then or now...I just don't see what everyone else does in Casa...& I sure as shat haven't seen anything that makes me believe REMOTELY that he could pose a threat to the #1 P4P fighter in the world...I mean...COME ON!!! ;D
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
IMO if Winky stayed at 154 it would have been a great boxing match...Not for the fans of KO's but a great fight for purist...
I will get SC'd for this but IMO Spinks has a great chance of beating him if he came in top shape.....
At worst he would give Floyd fits
No sc here..............
I've always aid that Spinks has a better chance than anybody out there IF he could keep it up for a full 12 rounds. Not to mention, that if Spinks could make it back down to 147... he might carry some deceptive power with him if he manages to baloon up to the high 150's the night of the fight.
The problem with that is that Spinks gets totally exhausted in the later rounds of almost every fight I've seen him in.
The way I see it happening is Spinks looks real impressive for the first 7 rounds of the fight (maybe losing a round or two in the process) but gets completely slaughtered for the remainder of the fight, en route to losing a UD.
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
The one fighter who would of gave Mayweather a great fight was Joel Casamayor at 130. It's a shame that fight never happened.
I just don't feel it.
Maybe if it was a match of elbows & headbutts...but that'd be the only way Casa would come out on top.
Casamayor is very slick and crafty as a southpaw, but I tend to agree with Wack, imagine it was the ams I think he'd struggle with Floyd.
:coolclick: Agreed. Then or now...I just don't see what everyone else does in Casa...& I sure as shat haven't seen anything that makes me believe REMOTELY that he could pose a threat to the #1 P4P fighter in the world...I mean...COME ON!!! ;D
I'm not saying now. I'm saying when they were both at 130. At 130 Casamayor would of clearly gave him a better fight than Corrales did.
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gotta agree with casa would of gave floyd the best boxing match. casa a southpaw, very slick, can mix it up and can end a fight with one punch. besides koysta I always thought casa was the one to give floyd a lost, back down in the lower weights.
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There are plenty of guys. Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Margarito, Alcime, Simms, there are others too. Mayweather just wont fight them though. I really think he can be beaten decisively but it wont happen until he underestimates someone.
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Williams would give Mayweather all kinds of problem with that 82'' reach and his huge punch out put it would be a long night for Mayweather and i do not think he was the power to take Williams out so i think Williams would win this one on points by about 1 or 2 rounds
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I dunno about Williams im still unsure of how good he is. I know he beat Margarito but Williams leaves his chin exposed at times and he hasn't fought a top tier fighter yet. Id say in a pure boxing match if Winky can still make 154 and Mayweather moved to 154 then i think Floyd would have big problems in trying to figure out a way to hit Winky. For me that would be a dream fight as i love good tactical battles due to the amount of skill involved. Any boxer can get into a war but very few can pick their spots and and out fox their opponant.
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Theres plenty.
Lightweight Casamayor
Welterweight Oscar
Welterweight Mosley
Welterweight Benitez
Welterweight Hearns
Current
Mosley
Williams
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Re: Is there anyone out there to give Mayweather a good boxing match
I'd like to see the Williams fight just to see Floyd's tactical answer to the huge height/reach advantage. Given Williams' punch output, I think it would be interesting.
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Well Taeth,if you mean purely boxing,the Casamayor fight at 130 would have been good. Also,at 154,Spinks would try to box him,as would Simms and Alcine. In fact Simms I think would be awkward,h'e s big southpaw,with decent power. Also,and I may get slated for this but it's just a thought,Paulie Malignaggi would certainly try to outbox him down at 140(and he'll eventually move to 147)
Guys like Margarito,Cotto,Mosley and Williams would all try to outhustle him and outwork him.
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Well Taeth,if you mean purely boxing,the Casamayor fight at 130 would have been good. Also,at 154,Spinks would try to box him,as would Simms and Alcine. In fact Simms I think would be awkward,h'e s big southpaw,with decent power. Also,and I may get slated for this but it's just a thought,Paulie Malignaggi would certainly try to outbox him down at 140(and he'll eventually move to 147)
Guys like Margarito,Cotto,Mosley and Williams would all try to outhustle him and outwork him.
I said it before and will again IMO Corey Spinks on his A game has an excellent chance of Beating Floyd....
I agree about Malignaggi as well.....In another year or two I won't be suprised to see Paulie on the P4P list...Kis can't punch but he can box..and Take a shot as well
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
IMO if Winky stayed at 154 it would have been a great boxing match...Not for the fans of KO's but a great fight for purist...
I will get SC'd for this but IMO Spinks has a great chance of beating him if he came in top shape.....
At worst he would give Floyd fits
I'll CC for having the guts to say it. I don't think Spinks could win, but it would be a great BOXING match. They are both pure boxers, speedy, and skillful. It to most fans, watching it would be like watching paint dry, and even for myself, I would have to watch the fight during the day when I'm at all tired. This would be a fight for purest of the purists.
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The two who would give Mayweather the toughest tests would, without a doubt, have to be Paul "The Punisher" Williams and Miguel Angel Cotto. Williams' height, reach, and activity level would, without a doubt, make it impossible for Floyd to defeat him. Floyd has a better shot of winning against Cotto, but Cotto's pressure style and body attack would, without a doubt, be the stiffest physical test in Floyd's career.
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The two who would give Mayweather the toughest tests would, without a doubt, have to be Paul "The Punisher" Williams and Miguel Angel Cotto. Williams' height, reach, and activity level would, without a doubt, make it impossible for Floyd to defeat him. Floyd has a better shot of winning against Cotto, but Cotto's pressure style and body attack would, without a doubt, be the stiffest physical test in Floyd's career.
He said good boxing match Cotto would not give Mayweather good boxing match.
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
IMO if Winky stayed at 154 it would have been a great boxing match...Not for the fans of KO's but a great fight for purist...
I will get SC'd for this but IMO Spinks has a great chance of beating him if he came in top shape.....
At worst he would give Floyd fits
I'll CC for having the guts to say it. I don't think Spinks could win, but it would be a great BOXING match. They are both pure boxers, speedy, and skillful. It to most fans, watching it would be like watching paint dry, and even for myself, I would have to watch the fight during the day when I'm at all tired. This would be a fight for purest of the purists.
CC back to ya...yes it would not be that exciting or maybe it would?...Floyd would definatly feel like he was the stronger man and be forced to be the agressor...it might bring out a whole new side of Mayweather we have yet to see..
If not then you are right it would be for the purist one of which I am so I would enjoy it
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
The one fighter who would of gave Mayweather a great fight was Joel Casamayor at 130. It's a shame that fight never happened.
I just don't feel it.
Maybe if it was a match of elbows & headbutts...but that'd be the only way Casa would come out on top.
Casamayor is very slick and crafty as a southpaw, but I tend to agree with Wack, imagine it was the ams I think he'd struggle with Floyd.
:coolclick: Agreed. Then or now...I just don't see what everyone else does in Casa...& I sure as shat haven't seen anything that makes me believe REMOTELY that he could pose a threat to the #1 P4P fighter in the world...I mean...COME ON!!! ;D
I'm not saying now. I'm saying when they were both at 130. At 130 Casamayor would of clearly gave him a better fight than Corrales did.
:coolclick: Gotcha. My mistake. I thought that we were talking about here & now.
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Out of everyone
This is the man to beat Pretty Boy Floyd !
http://www.sugarshanemosley.com/imag...sugarshane.jpg
Shane has always been the fighter I thought PBF should avoid . Ofcourse it depends on the outcomes of their next fights but if they both win which I think they probably will then all attention in boxing will shift to Floyd vs Mosley. Shane has quicker hands and better power . Floyd overcame that vs Judah but here he fights a guy less fragile and more experienced . I think Shane has a very good chance of beating Floyd
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
The one fighter who would of gave Mayweather a great fight was Joel Casamayor at 130. It's a shame that fight never happened.
Hell yeah that would have been a great fight....Floyd would also not be undefeated right now if it did come off
LOL, he would have beat Casamayor... he was way too fast for Joel as good as he is.
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People don't see to be listening. Fight a southpaw isn't a pure boxing match, because first of all Mayweather isn't as good against southpaws, and second he doesn't really box them, he comes straight forward. That takes out all southpaws. Also I am talking present tense.
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Out of everyone
This is the man to beat Pretty Boy Floyd !
http://www.sugarshanemosley.com/imag...sugarshane.jpg
Shane has always been the fighter I thought PBF should avoid . Ofcourse it depends on the outcomes of their next fights but if they both win which I think they probably will then all attention in boxing will shift to Floyd vs Mosley. Shane has quicker hands and better power . Floyd overcame that vs Judah but here he fights a guy less fragile and more experienced . I think Shane has a very good chance of beating Floyd
At this point there is no way Shane has quicker hands, feet, or reflexes than Floyd, also Shane has never really been a true boxer as is evident when he fought Oscar the second time, Vernon Forest, and Winky Wright. Shane has no footwork. I think he just outpunched Collazo, and outsped him, but Collazo was way to hesitant in a sitting duck kind of way. I am not saying Shane doesn't have a chance, but it should be a good fight. However to say he is faster now is wrong. Judah wasn't faster than Mayweather either, it was just Mayweather throwing target finders all night and not really getting snap behind his punches.
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If we were to coompare how shane disposed of a younger and faster OLDH versus Mayweather's win over a "rusty" OLDH, Shane could be just the man to give Mayweather his first defeat.
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If we were to coompare how shane disposed of a younger and faster OLDH versus Mayweather's win over a "rusty" OLDH, Shane could be just the man to give Mayweather his first defeat.
ODLH didn't look anymore "rusty," against Ricardo Mayorga (who he thoroughly trashed when they fought)than he did against Floyd Mayweather Jr.
The only difference was that Oscar was up against a good fighter the first time, but up against an elite fighter the second time.
Hope this helps ;)
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Taeth-You could be right but I wasnt that impressed with Floyds speed vs Oscar TBH . Mosley isnt as quick as he was but hes quicker than Floyd from what I can see . Judah looked quicker too especially early on . Yeah i'd admit Floyd has better footwork . He was great against Baldy and Gatti . In those fights Floyd really looked the part but you would do against guys of that calibre . Technical ability id give Floyd the edge over Shane. We dont really know about who has teh better chin but my guess would be Shane .
I just feel Floyds never met a guy like Shane before and he amost dropped decisions to guys like Castillo and a washed up Oscar so I reckon Shane has a real chance here .
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If it were ever possible ..Even though time is nowhere close
For floyd to have met Roy Jones Or James Toney they both would have embarrassed him
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Originally Posted by Taeth
People don't see to be listening. Fight a southpaw isn't a pure boxing match, because first of all Mayweather isn't as good against southpaws, and second he doesn't really box them, he comes straight forward. That takes out all southpaws. Also I am talking present tense.
I disagree. It's just a different kind of boxing match. Plenty of southpaws are pure boxers. If Spinks was orthodox, with his skill set, he could give still Mayweather problems, though I'll repeat, Floyd would win any day.
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I think Paulie Mallinaggi. Look at both of their styles and they are very similar. If Im wanting a ko I would pick Cotto.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
People don't see to be listening. Fight a southpaw isn't a pure boxing match, because first of all Mayweather isn't as good against southpaws, and second he doesn't really box them, he comes straight forward. That takes out all southpaws. Also I am talking present tense.
I disagree. It's just a different kind of boxing match. Plenty of southpaws are pure boxers. If Spinks was orthodox, with his skill set, he could give still Mayweather problems, though I'll repeat, Floyd would win any day.
LOL,Taeth,just when I think you're starting to make some cool threads and posts and you come out with "Fight a southpaw isn't a pure boxing match"?! What the hell is that man! There are few purer boxers than Spinks and Paulie! ;D
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People don't see to be listening. Fight a southpaw isn't a pure boxing match, because first of all Mayweather isn't as good against southpaws, and second he doesn't really box them, he comes straight forward. That takes out all southpaws. Also I am talking present tense.
I disagree. It's just a different kind of boxing match. Plenty of southpaws are pure boxers. If Spinks was orthodox, with his skill set, he could give still Mayweather problems, though I'll repeat, Floyd would win any day.
LOL,Taeth,just when I think you're starting to make some cool threads and posts and you come out with "Fight a southpaw isn't a pure boxing match"?! What the hell is that man! There are few purer boxers than Spinks and Paulie! ;D
I wasn't going to mention it but since El G brought it up....WTF is fight a southpaw not pure boxing match mean anyway?.....because the guy is lefty he cant be considered a pure boxer?...or because they are opposite stances the fight between the two can not be pure boxing because they do not stand the same?....
I am just curious
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Originally Posted by Taeth
People don't see to be listening. Fight a southpaw isn't a pure boxing match, because first of all Mayweather isn't as good against southpaws, and second he doesn't really box them, he comes straight forward. That takes out all southpaws. Also I am talking present tense.
I disagree. It's just a different kind of boxing match. Plenty of southpaws are pure boxers. If Spinks was orthodox, with his skill set, he could give still Mayweather problems, though I'll repeat, Floyd would win any day.
LOL,Taeth,just when I think you're starting to make some cool threads and posts and you come out with "Fight a southpaw isn't a pure boxing match"?! What the hell is that man! There are few purer boxers than Spinks and Paulie! ;D
I wasn't going to mention it but since El G brought it up....WTF is fight a southpaw not pure boxing match mean anyway?.....because the guy is lefty he cant be considered a pure boxer?...or because they are opposite stances the fight between the two can not be pure boxing because they do not stand the same?....
I am just curious
Ditto DK,I want to know what Taeth was thinking too! ;D
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By the time the fight happen shane will be 37 and i think he is getting to old i mean to face the pound for pound when you are far off your prime is hard to pull out a win not every one is B hop 37 is old in the ring i do not think Shane can beat a prime PBF when his prime was gone a while ago
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Paul Williams (with his reach and high punch output) and Spinks are my best guesses
