I got knocked on my butt today in sparring...

I got dropped legit for the first time today.I been goin to the local boxing gym for a good 3 1/2 months now and been sparrin for about 2 1/2 months. All my sparrin has been with this one guy, he's a pro MMA fighter with a 1-1 record, he's got bout a year of boxing expierence on me. Lately we've been pretty competitive with him outboxing me by a little or more each time and me gettin my big shots in. Plus he had let himself get outta shape recently, so I had been gettin the better of the sparring to some degree. He has a great, hard jab, but really no right hand or left hook to speak of. I mean they are there, but they are not near as hard as that jab. Well like an idiot I came in to spar him this morning, and this other MMA fighter, and I didn't have any respect for his power. Right in the first round I came in bombing with my chin up and BOOM! I got nailed with a hard straight right hand that put me on my back, I rolled back, jumped up and continued fighting. It caught me just right, but didn't hurt me really.

They asked if I was okay and I said "Yeah, lets go". So now I'm pissed, which is a mistake. And so for the next 30 second to a minute(we are going 2 minute rounds), I am swinging for the fences, trying to drop him. Then I leap in with a left hook and kind of fall into a punch and go down again. This time it was really more of a case of me falling down and slippin while being tagged with a b1tch punch. But I went down again, I got up again and finished the round. It was disapointing, but it was bound to happen eventually.

Anyway after that, I went on to spar the other guy twice, dropping him in a similiar fashion to my second knockdown and catchin him with stiff hard jabs, and my original sparring partner again, and I did not get knocked down anymore. Still it was a bit embarassing, but a good lesson. I MUST keep my chin tucked as my trainer says, and I definately should respect EVERYONE who steps in the ring with me. Believe it or not for the round I got dropped in, we were using freakin 18 oz gloves AND headgear too. Still I walked right into it and it put me on the seat of my pants. ;D :-\

thats great, its a good experience for you...Learn from it and come back better 8)

Ive been on my Butt that many times Ive got a Cauliflower Arse.

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Ive been on my Butt that many times Ive got a Cauliflower a***.

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LOL Scrap

get it drained scrap....maybe just maybe that will help... ;D

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thats great, its a good experience for you...Learn from it and come back better 8)

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Thank you, I will.

What kinda sparring is taht?
Sparring is meant to be a part of training, a learning instrument to help one's boxing...How's knocking each other down and potentially injuring each other going to help your boxing?

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What kinda sparring is taht?
Sparring is meant to be a part of training, a learning instrument to help one's boxing...How's knocking each other down and potentially injuring each other going to help your boxing?

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I'm sure you've sparred before. So you know that sometimes sparring gets heated, and you get into a good scrap. Somtimes you get dropped. This was the first time out of 8 sparring sessions anyone has been dropped. And I've improved a lot since the first couple, so I think they have been productive. The point is like you say to work on what you've learned, not to drop or hurt one another , but its boxing, sometimes things like that will happen.

Sparring is never heated for me

I am very laid back, But i go to war in sparring with the best pro's in the gym.. and they hit me hard so i hit them hard.. But its nothing petsonal.. i dont go round trying to knock them out if i get knocked down

Its a part of sparring,sometimes you get caught.. If anything you showed weakness by getting out of your gameplan and loosing focus bro

Not having a go just saying :)

Peace

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Sparring is never heated for me

I am very laid back, But i go to war in sparring with the best pro's in the gym.. and they hit me hard so i hit them hard.. But its nothing petsonal.. i dont go round trying to knock them out if i get knocked down

Its a part of sparring,sometimes you get caught.. If anything you showed weakness by getting out of your gameplan and loosing focus bro

Not having a go just saying :)

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Yeah, duely noted. ;)

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What kinda sparring is taht?
Sparring is meant to be a part of training, a learning instrument to help one's boxing...How's knocking each other down and potentially injuring each other going to help your boxing?

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Donny,when I tried to come back,before I blew up my right hand.Before I rediscovered that place where I keep my anger,I went down in 2 of the 3 rounds,the first two times.Got right back,because screw you,I aint leaving. When I rediscovered it,I got not hit,walloped.I was bringing it after that, poor Talley was desperatly trying to figure out how to stop it since he was reffing.
Its really confusing when you arent used to going down,to find yourself down there,not even because your hurt,as much as,"This isnt supposed to be happening to me,it never has before"

I think when i spar i feel like theres a fine line between heart and determination and anger

Like when all else fails, or im just in the moment and i stop fighting smart, i dont mind trading, fighting ferociously and swinging.. and it get vicious..But its not angry, In fact its just plain fun sometimes

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I think when i spar i feel like theres a fine line between heart and determination and anger

Like when all else fails, or im just in the moment and i stop fighting smart, i dont mind trading, fighting ferociously and swinging.. and it get vicious..But its not angry, In fact its just plain fun sometimes

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Its a matter of learning how to point it in the right direction,and control it.
When I forgot that its part of the gig,you are hitting people after all,and being hit,that little spark that says,"Oh thats how you wanna play it?" wasnt there.
And I went down,it was really confusing,because I hadnt needed it for so long,I hadnt had to use it,and at first,I forgot about it.Put it on the shelf and forgot to dust it off.

Its crazy how much boxing is to do with confidence, Have one bad week and your next three might not be so good until you have a few nice rounds to get you back up, SOmetimes it sucks

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Its crazy how much boxing is to do with confidence, Have one bad week and your next three might not be so good until you have a few nice rounds to get you back up, SOmetimes it sucks

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No doubt at all,one week your down and trying to figure out how your going to get your mouthpiece back in,and the next week,you take the EXACT same shot,and all you think is,"Your going to pay for that"
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Backatyer Tm, Im gona hit the hay got med and training and theres still the remote possibility of bieng remotely fresh :P

Peace

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What kinda sparring is taht?
Sparring is meant to be a part of training, a learning instrument to help one's boxing...How's knocking each other down and potentially injuring each other going to help your boxing?

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I'm sure you've sparred before. So you know that sometimes sparring gets heated, and you get into a good scrap. Somtimes you get dropped. This was the first time out of 8 sparring sessions anyone has been dropped. And I've improved a lot since the first couple, so I think they have been productive. The point is like you say to work on what you've learned, not to drop or hurt one another , but its boxing, sometimes things like that will happen.

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Sparred....I've got 53 amateur fights.
For me i just find it more productive to use sparring as an element to improve and tweak skills, so if it's more controlled it's more productive as if a guy was sprinting at me i wouldn be able to practice new stuff, i'd just try bomb him; I realise that sometimes it gets hot in there, but i find thats mostly when sparring guys outside of my club...Generally i try to keep it cool. But i do accept that there are exceptional circumstances.

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What kinda sparring is taht?
Sparring is meant to be a part of training, a learning instrument to help one's boxing...How's knocking each other down and potentially injuring each other going to help your boxing?

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I'm sure you've sparred before. So you know that sometimes sparring gets heated, and you get into a good scrap. Somtimes you get dropped. This was the first time out of 8 sparring sessions anyone has been dropped. And I've improved a lot since the first couple, so I think they have been productive. The point is like you say to work on what you've learned, not to drop or hurt one another , but its boxing, sometimes things like that will happen.

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Sparred....I've got 53 amateur fights.
For me i just find it more productive to use sparring as an element to improve and tweak skills, so if it's more controlled it's more productive as if a guy was sprinting at me i wouldn be able to practice new stuff, i'd just try bomb him; I realise that sometimes it gets hot in there, but i find thats mostly when sparring guys outside of my club...Generally i try to keep it cool. But i do accept that there are exceptional circumstances.

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Not exclusively,its also a good way to learn how to take a shot.It sounds elemental,but believe you me,its important.

This is the one time that i actually support Brendan Ingles logic...Taking unnecessary punishment is foolishness.
It is necessary to take punishment in a fight, not in training. The body can only absorb so much punishment before it begins to fall apart. It will come across enough encouragement in fights, i just feel there is no need to accelerate this process with reckless sparring.

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This is the one time that i actually support Brendan Ingles logic...Taking unnecessary punishment is foolishness.
It is necessary to take punishment in a fight, not in training. The body can only absorb so much punishment before it begins to fall apart. It will come across enough encouragement in fights, i just feel there is no need to accelerate this process with reckless sparring.

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Alot of it is learning to take it,now if you have the time to build a large amateur card,well you learn it in there.
If you dont have time for that,gotta learn it somewhere,Im willing to take on older fighters,so I can see both sides.
We got a girl in here recently,who wants to do MMA,I put her in with Feur,Feur was going so easy on her I had to yell at her to pick it up a bit,she dropped the girl twice.Now that girl will be a bit harder the next time,but now she knows it didnt kill her,it didnt even hurt her that bad,if youve allready felt the worse that could happen,well then,whats the worse that could happen?
I do see your point,but sometimes you dont have time to put together an amateur card,actually you have to be able to run both kinds of sparring sessions

That is true and i fully comprehend your logic, to some extent i agree, as iv been training a young girl who is a prodigy in shadow boxings, on the bag and hitting the pads, but when it came to her first fight she lost it all when she was hit. So from that perspective i see ur point,

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That is true and i fully comprehend your logic, to some extent i agree, as iv been training a young girl who is a prodigy in shadow boxings, on the bag and hitting the pads, but when it came to her first fight she lost it all when she was hit. So from that perspective i see ur point,

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Have a cc on me.
Youve got to figure out who you have out there. Getting dogmatic about it doesnt help your fighter,and if youve taken them on,they are YOUR fighter and YOUR responsibility,so youve got to change the rules,because theyre more important then you are,theyre the ones getting popped.There's a reason that even though flying is absolute unbelievable torture to me,Im trying to figure out how Ill work Feur's corner next time
Large amounts of beer will probably be involved in getting me on the damned plane,I really hate flying,no, extra special hate flying.
On the plus side,it should just be wearing off when we have to meet our driver,so Ill be all nice and professional coming off the plane

Thats a tricky problem.
Alcohol is probably the bet solution as irresponsibel as it sounds!

My fear is needles, and when i have to get any medicine i have to do somethin to take my mind off it, like putting a stone in my shoe but refusing to take it out, better discomfort than blind fear!

My gym is pretty famed for producing power punchers, i don't no why, thats why sparring is pretty technical and rarely gets heated, mind you when it does, the whole gym turns and watches!

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Thats a tricky problem.
Alcohol is probably the bet solution as irresponsibel as it sounds!

My fear is needles, and when i have to get any medicine i have to do somethin to take my mind off it, like putting a stone in my shoe but refusing to take it out, better discomfort than blind fear!

My gym is pretty famed for producing power punchers, i don't no why, thats why sparring is pretty technical and rarely gets heated, mind you when it does, the whole gym turns and watches!

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Well I did say beer,not scotch ;D ;D
I understand roping it in,I got a few fighters that can really wallop,and at that point if their just pounding away,its like
A)Your just showing off
B) Your not learning anything by doing it
Its a high wire,as a trainer youve got to learn to dance on it

I must have a pretty good chin and a hard noggin (or maybe I just refuse to go down) but I've been rocked HARD a few times by the experienced guys in my gym but I've never been down. I believe I've been momentarily out though, only coming to as I hit the ropes.

But that's how I was raised. My pop told me never let them know they got the better of you. So in hockey, if I was hurt by a check, I still got up no matter what. And in baseball, if I was hit by a pitch, I got up no matter how bad it hurt and I trotted to first base.

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I must have a pretty good chin and a hard noggin (or maybe I just refuse to go down) but I've been rocked HARD a few times by the experienced guys in my gym but I've never been down. I believe I've been momentarily out though, only coming to as I hit the ropes.

But that's how I was raised. My pop told me never let them know they got the better of you. So in hockey, if I was hurt by a check, I still got up no matter what. And in baseball, if I was hit by a pitch, I got up no matter how bad it hurt and I trotted to first base.

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Likewise, iv never been down.

Uv not been round the boxing forums much Von, have you deserted us completely for MMa :'(

Never. Just crazy busy with school and the little guy. 8)

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I must have a pretty good chin and a hard noggin (or maybe I just refuse to go down) but I've been rocked HARD a few times by the experienced guys in my gym but I've never been down. I believe I've been momentarily out though, only coming to as I hit the ropes.

But that's how I was raised. My pop told me never let them know they got the better of you. So in hockey, if I was hurt by a check, I still got up no matter what. And in baseball, if I was hit by a pitch, I got up no matter how bad it hurt and I trotted to first base.

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Big difference between down,and out
Only times Ive ever been out were when I was 8,and I stepped in to a punch from my trainer when he trying to show how fast you could be.I was being a cocky little bugger and stepped in to show how fast I could be.Turns out I wasnt that fast
The other time the guy outweighed by at least 100 pounds,probably still wouldnt have gone out if the back of my head hadnt hit the steel shutters behind me.

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Never. Just crazy busy with school and the little guy. 8)

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Glad to hear it!
I tryna get as many posts in as i can before my lil one arrives! I've got a feeling Saddo's will be neglected!!!

I've been knocked down more while working the pads than while actually boxing, and usually be 13 year olds that forget which is their left and which is their right. Oddly, I've always stayed up when a punch really hurt, be that pride or instinct or stupidity. I've been knocked down when I get clipped and get dizzy: go down, get up, go on.
I hope the most important lesson was learned. In the ring you never lose your temper, never get mad. It gets you hit and getting hit hurts. Most boxers start out with a temper. Few finish with one.

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Never. Just crazy busy with school and the little guy. 8)

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Glad to hear it!
I tryna get as many posts in as i can before my lil one arrives! I've got a feeling Saddo's will be neglected!!!

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Great to hear,CC for you try keepin it that way for ever.
So many people we know comming up school holiday time etc say to us ."Oh no the kids will be at home for a month or so we dread it!

Those fuckwits wanted them kids in the first place, what happenend???

We love having our kids with us we look forwards to them being at home with us anytime.
It all goes too fast.

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Never. Just crazy busy with school and the little guy. 8)

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Glad to hear it!
I tryna get as many posts in as i can before my lil one arrives! I've got a feeling Saddo's will be neglected!!!

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Great to hear,CC for you try keepin it that way for ever.
So many people we know comming up school holiday time etc say to us ."Oh no the kids will be at home for a month or so we dread it!

Those fuckwits wanted them kids in the first place, what happenend???

We love having our kids with us we look forwards to them being at home with us anytime.
It all goes too fast.

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I can't wait i really can't. Iv changed so much in the past 3 months it's gonna be amazing when the baby actually arrives...

Sleep deprevation ,patience under screaming stress.
You think the army tests u out!

There was some new book about the types of crying and what each one means.
I watched a show on it, I would definatley learn that lingo to make life easier for yoursleves.

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Sleep deprevation ,patience under screaming stress.
You think the army tests u out!

There was some new book about the types of crying and what each one means.
I watched a show on it, I would definatley learn that lingo to make life easier for yoursleves.

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Oh itl be alright....
As for the book, i think the "baby industry," is a highly commercial sector of business and im not buyin too many of the miracle products

The chick who wrote it was on ophra one day and had all these babies lined up and sure enough had em all under control fast by knowing exactly what was required, its in the pitch and you get to recognize wet /hungry/hug/stomache ache/tired/burp. I recon you could work it out for yourself if you thought about it.

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The chick who wrote it was on ophra one day and had all these babies lined up and sure enough had em all under control fast by knowing exactly what was required, its in the pitch and you get to recognize wet /hungry/hug/stomache ache/tired/burp. I recon you could work it out for yourself if you thought about it.

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It's intriguing so9 i might well give it a go!
U got kids urself Dre?

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Never. Just crazy busy with school and the little guy. 8)

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Glad to hear it!
I tryna get as many posts in as i can before my lil one arrives! I've got a feeling Saddo's will be neglected!!!

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Great to hear,CC for you try keepin it that way for ever.
So many people we know comming up school holiday time etc say to us ."Oh no the kids will be at home for a month or so we dread it!

Those fuckwits wanted them kids in the first place, what happenend???

We love having our kids with us we look forwards to them being at home with us anytime.
It all goes too fast.

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My 18 year old adopted daughter was down this weekend(not legally,but the guy who produced the sperm was a total shite,somebody had to take on the male role model role,so I did since she was 4)it was absolute hilarity watching my 7 year old son do all the things to her,that she used to do to me when she was 7 and Id visit.
Read me a book
Read a book to you
Try to wake you up
Demand absolute attention at all times
Show you toys
Ask a billion questions
The only thing he didnt do to her,that she used to do to me and Feur was the dive bomb move first thing in the morning,where a small,but very happy to see youve opened your eyes child can get serious air while aiming for your stomach.
Thank god we did all those crunches,or wed have ended up in hospital.

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The chick who wrote it was on ophra one day and had all these babies lined up and sure enough had em all under control fast by knowing exactly what was required, its in the pitch and you get to recognize wet /hungry/hug/stomache ache/tired/burp. I recon you could work it out for yourself if you thought about it.

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It's intriguing so9 i might well give it a go!
U got kids urself Dre?

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Yeah bro I got two teenage girls 15 and 17 (both great lookers too) fantastic kids ;we got a party here this friday night for the 17 year old.Im getting too old for what i think will happen with some of her male friends that night!.Im not stupid,the patry is registered locally with the cops and
I'll have some other serious back up ..wish me luck ;)

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Never. Just crazy busy with school and the little guy. 8)

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Glad to hear it!
I tryna get as many posts in as i can before my lil one arrives! I've got a feeling Saddo's will be neglected!!!

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Great to hear,CC for you try keepin it that way for ever.
So many people we know comming up school holiday time etc say to us ."Oh no the kids will be at home for a month or so we dread it!

Those fuckwits wanted them kids in the first place, what happenend???

We love having our kids with us we look forwards to them being at home with us anytime.
It all goes too fast.

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My 18 year old adopted daughter was down this weekend(not legally,but the guy who produced the sperm was a total shite,somebody had to take on the male role model role,so I did since she was 4)it was absolute hilarity watching my 7 year old son do all the things to her,that she used to do to me when she was 7 and Id visit.
Read me a book
Read a book to you
Try to wake you up
Demand absolute attention at all times
Show you toys
Ask a billion questions
The only thing he didnt do to her,that she used to do to me and Feur was the dive bomb move first thing in the morning,where a small,but very happy to see youve opened your eyes child can get serious air while aiming for your stomach.
Thank god we did all those crunches,or wed have ended up in hospital.

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Good on ya mate.cc

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Never. Just crazy busy with school and the little guy. 8)

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Glad to hear it!
I tryna get as many posts in as i can before my lil one arrives! I've got a feeling Saddo's will be neglected!!!

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Great to hear,CC for you try keepin it that way for ever.
So many people we know comming up school holiday time etc say to us ."Oh no the kids will be at home for a month or so we dread it!

Those fuckwits wanted them kids in the first place, what happenend???

We love having our kids with us we look forwards to them being at home with us anytime.
It all goes too fast.

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My 18 year old adopted daughter was down this weekend(not legally,but the guy who produced the sperm was a total shite,somebody had to take on the male role model role,so I did since she was 4)it was absolute hilarity watching my 7 year old son do all the things to her,that she used to do to me when she was 7 and Id visit.
Read me a book
Read a book to you
Try to wake you up
Demand absolute attention at all times
Show you toys
Ask a billion questions
The only thing he didnt do to her,that she used to do to me and Feur was the dive bomb move first thing in the morning,where a small,but very happy to see youve opened your eyes child can get serious air while aiming for your stomach.
Thank god we did all those crunches,or wed have ended up in hospital.

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Good on ya mate.cc

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Id CC ya back,but it would come up as a SC