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Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
Juan Diaz Deserves Your Respect
http://www.secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=23011
By Matt Wells: How many undefeated, championship-calibre fighters are there out there? Not many. How many fighters hold three major championship belts? Not many. How many fighters in boxing have ever accomplished so much at the age of 24? Not many. Yet despite all this, why is it that Juan Diaz, with a record of 33-0, and possessing the IBF, WBA, and WBO lightweight belts, is still not even close to being a boxing superstar?
Mind you, young Diaz did get a few heads turning in his direction with his utter destruction of rugged ring warrior Julio Diaz last weekend, which earned him his IBF stripe. Yet this bout received only a fraction of the attention that that was given to the big fight of the previous weekend between Manny Pacquiao and Marco Antonio Barrera. That fight was on pay-per-view; Diaz’s win was on regular HBO. Pacquiao and Barrera fought to a packed house; the Diaz and Diaz show attracted only a handful of spectators.
Many will claim, with some justification, that even to try to compare these two events is absurd. Barrera is something of a living legend, while Pacquiao is a nothing short of a marketing phenom. And their rematch had been highly-anticipated ever since their first match-up. Few fights could match the hype, and money, generated by that contest.
At the same time, it is still noteworthy how Juan and Julio’s bout felt so much like an afterthought after the previous weekend’s proceedings. Julio had squared off with some of the best fighters the lightweight division has had to offer, and never made a bad showing of himself, even when he lost. Juan already had a well-established reputation for full-bore action and excitement, and was carrying two belts into the ring with him. For all their accomplishments, in the days leading up to their duel, few fans and pundits seemed appeared particularly excited about it.
Juan came out the winner, of course, and, given his impressive performance, and the fact that he is a three-time major title champion, one would expect that he would begin to get the attention he deserves. But what is the big story from the weekend that everyone is talking about? Evander Holyfield’s loss to Sultan Ibragimov. A heavyweight that should have retired at least five years ago losing to another who once drew against the likes of Ray Austin. Huh?
Given all of this, two questions linger. One: does Juan Diaz deserve to be considered a potential (or current) boxing superstar? Two: if so, why does he not get the attention of other (many less-talented) fighters?
Juan is not without his faults. Lack of power is his most glaring. No matter how many times he whacks an opponent, he can never seem to score a KO blow. Fights end by stoppage only when his opponents quit on their stools. One wonders what would happen if he faced an opponent that could stand up to his blows and deliver more powerful shots in return. Pacquiao, called out by Juan and his camp following his latest win, could be just such an opponent.
Suffice it to say that Juan is likely not ready to face the likes of Pacquiao. But that’s not to say that he couldn’t give the Filipino sensation trouble somewhere down the road. Juan may not be able to end fights early, but given his incredible endurance, he may never really to do so. Juan often looks just at fresh in round 12 as he does in round 1. As he relentlessly pounds his opponents from wire to wire, they often can’t come close to matching his energy in the late going.
Juan is no mere wild swinger, however. His punches come quick, and they land more often than not. Even if his opponents block much of what is coming at them, as Julio was able to do, they can’t block everything, and the shots that do get in take their toll. Juan’s combinations are elaborate affairs, with lefts and rights coming in quick succession and in varied forms and patterns. Julio, about as tough a customer as they come, simply looked overwhelmed in the ring when Juan was at his best, and he lost control of the fight quickly after the opening bell.
Juan has other problems. His defence is often suspect. Julio was able to get his some good punches of his own, even with all the momentum of the fight going against him. Juan has also taken damage in some of his other high-profile fights.
He’s not perfect, but no fighter is, and many are a lot worse. More than that, however, Juan gives you plenty of bang for your buck: his style is purely offensive, even when he is facing return fire. His is a crowd pleaser all the way. That is, he is a crowd pleaser when the crowds actually show up to watch him.
Juan is not an obscure fighter by any means. But given his record, given his talent, and given his exciting style, it’s strange that he is not even close to being a marquee name in the sport. Why is Juan not as big a draw as he probably should be?
It’s hard to determine what makes a fighter popular, or what makes him unpopular. Certainly success and a pleasing style go into the mix. But, for many fans, there are likely other factors in play as well, factors that are harder to nail down in concrete terms.
Juan doesn’t have the bravado of a Roy Jones Jr. or a Floyd Mayweather Jr. He doesn’t cut a mean figure like the best of the heavyweight greats. He doesn’t possess the scary intensity of Barrera and his rival Erik Morales. He doesn’t chomp on a cigar and make wisecracks like James Toney. Though he is from a working-class family, he doesn’t have the English working-class charm of a Ricky Hatton. Juan is a soft-spoken young man, and slightly soft around the edges to boot. He doesn’t scare or offend outside the ring. He calls boxing a pastime as he looks to law school and a possible career in politics.
In short, Juan does not behave like a boxer. But, unlike Jermain Taylor, who seems to lack focus both inside and outside the ring, Juan is a genuine boxer. So it’s a shame that his class and good manners are possible reasons why he is ignored. Not all fighters can turn themselves into a complete entertainment package in the manner of Jones Jr. But such showmanship should not distract the hard-core boxing fan from what really matters, and Juan delivers every time when it comes to his craft.
Juan has had some bad luck in his career, as well, which has cost him from a marketing standpoint. A highly-anticipated match-up with Ebo Elder, slated for an ESPN pay-per-view show a couple of years back, had to be cancelled when Juan suffered a serious cut near his eye. The cancelled fight dealt such a blow that his first fight back a few months later wasn’t even televised.
Juan bounced back and scored a big win over Jose Cotto in early 2006, but then spent much of the rest of the year waiting for mandatory challenger Kostya Tszyu to commit to a rematch. That never happened, and then Juan ran into promotional entanglements as he signed with Don King Productions after reports had him going to Golden Boy. Nothing serious in the way of litigation followed, but the movement to a new promoter necessarily caused further delays. It wasn’t until April of this year that Juan was once again matched up with a truly worthy opponent in Acelino Frietas, whom he dispatched with relative ease.
Now that Juan’s troubles seem to be behind him, however, it’s time for fans to step him and give him the accolades he deserves. He may not be a pound-for-pound great, but he is one of the most exciting attractions in the sport today. Here’s hoping his next fight is in front of a sell-out crowd, with a big television audience tuning in to watch him work his furious fists.
October 19, 2007
Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
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Re: Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
I've always had mad respect for him, one of my favourite fighters to watch.
I was amazed when people said they weren't looking forward to the Diaz vs Diaz fight :o
He's a superstar in the making and Pacquiao would do well to avoid him imo.
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Re: Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
Cuz he goes out of his way to duck Casamayor. The true Lightweight champion. He beats (hell if he even fights) Casamayor he'll have my respect
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
I've always had mad respect for him, one of my favourite fighters to watch.
I was amazed when people said they weren't looking forward to the Diaz vs Diaz fight :o
He's a superstar in the making and Pacquiao would do well to avoid him imo.
I've always thought that he was a hell of a boxer...but something just never really clicked with him for me. Not sure what it was either...seriously. I have seen a chunk of his fights & he was always inspiring...but again...something oddly never clicked.
Last weekend & the Lakva Sim fight sealed the deal for me.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Cuz he goes out of his way to duck Casamayor. The true Lightweight champion. He beats (hell if he even fights) Casamayor he'll have my respect
He'll breeze Casamayor making him look old & coRnfused then exposing him for the dirty fighter that he is.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Cuz he goes out of his way to duck Casamayor. The true Lightweight champion. He beats (hell if he even fights) Casamayor he'll have my respect
He'll breeze Casamayor making him look old & coRnfused then exposing him for the dirty fighter that he is.
RAGE!!!!! RRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
I've always had mad respect for him, one of my favourite fighters to watch.
I was amazed when people said they weren't looking forward to the Diaz vs Diaz fight :o
He's a superstar in the making and Pacquiao would do well to avoid him imo.
I've always thought that he was a hell of a boxer...but something just never really clicked with him for me. Not sure what it was either...seriously. I have seen a chunk of his fights & he was always inspiring...but again...something oddly never clicked.
Last weekend & the Lakva Sim fight sealed the deal for me.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Cuz he goes out of his way to duck Casamayor. The true Lightweight champion. He beats (hell if he even fights) Casamayor he'll have my respect
He'll breeze Casamayor making him look old & coRnfused then exposing him for the dirty fighter that he is.
It's obvious Diaz doesn't think so himself. It's no coincidence that Diaz called out fighters but fell to mention Casamayor's name. Diaz wants nothing of Joel.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
I've always had mad respect for him, one of my favourite fighters to watch.
I was amazed when people said they weren't looking forward to the Diaz vs Diaz fight :o
He's a superstar in the making and Pacquiao would do well to avoid him imo.
I've always thought that he was a hell of a boxer...but something just never really clicked with him for me. Not sure what it was either...seriously. I have seen a chunk of his fights & he was always inspiring...but again...something oddly never clicked.
Last weekend & the Lakva Sim fight sealed the deal for me.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Cuz he goes out of his way to duck Casamayor. The true Lightweight champion. He beats (hell if he even fights) Casamayor he'll have my respect
He'll breeze Casamayor making him look old & coRnfused then exposing him for the dirty fighter that he is.
It's obvious Diaz doesn't think so himself. It's no coincidence that Diaz called out fighters but fell to mention Casamayor's name. Diaz wants nothing of Joel.
Can you blame him?
I mean...who wants to eat forehead & elbows all night long?
Not me.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
I've always had mad respect for him, one of my favourite fighters to watch.
I was amazed when people said they weren't looking forward to the Diaz vs Diaz fight :o
He's a superstar in the making and Pacquiao would do well to avoid him imo.
I've always thought that he was a hell of a boxer...but something just never really clicked with him for me. Not sure what it was either...seriously. I have seen a chunk of his fights & he was always inspiring...but again...something oddly never clicked.
Last weekend & the Lakva Sim fight sealed the deal for me.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Cuz he goes out of his way to duck Casamayor. The true Lightweight champion. He beats (hell if he even fights) Casamayor he'll have my respect
He'll breeze Casamayor making him look old & coRnfused then exposing him for the dirty fighter that he is.
It's obvious Diaz doesn't think so himself. It's no coincidence that Diaz called out fighters but fell to mention Casamayor's name. Diaz wants nothing of Joel.
Can you blame him?
I mean...who wants to eat forehead & elbows all night long?
Not me.
Obviously not a coward
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Casamayor is almost 40, fights once every couple years and doesn't even hold a belt.
If he's ignored it's his own fault, he could start by actually taking some fights and trying to show people he's still around.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
I've always had mad respect for him, one of my favourite fighters to watch.
I was amazed when people said they weren't looking forward to the Diaz vs Diaz fight :o
He's a superstar in the making and Pacquiao would do well to avoid him imo.
I've always thought that he was a hell of a boxer...but something just never really clicked with him for me. Not sure what it was either...seriously. I have seen a chunk of his fights & he was always inspiring...but again...something oddly never clicked.
Last weekend & the Lakva Sim fight sealed the deal for me.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Cuz he goes out of his way to duck Casamayor. The true Lightweight champion. He beats (hell if he even fights) Casamayor he'll have my respect
He'll breeze Casamayor making him look old & coRnfused then exposing him for the dirty fighter that he is.
It's obvious Diaz doesn't think so himself. It's no coincidence that Diaz called out fighters but fell to mention Casamayor's name. Diaz wants nothing of Joel.
Can you blame him?
I mean...who wants to eat forehead & elbows all night long?
Not me.
Obviously not a coward
Damn skrate! ;D
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Casamayor is almost 40, fights once every couple years and doesn't even hold a belt.
If he's ignored it's his own fault, he could start by actually taking some fights and trying to show people he's still around.
:coolclick: Very well stated...but I thought that he was the WBC champ?
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Casamayor is almost 40, fights once every couple years and doesn't even hold a belt.
If he's ignored it's his own fault, he could start by actually taking some fights and trying to show people he's still around.
:coolclick: Very well stated...but I thought that he was the WBC champ?
He got stripped, David Diaz holds it now I think, cc returned,
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Casamayor is almost 40, fights once every couple years and doesn't even hold a belt.
If he's ignored it's his own fault, he could start by actually taking some fights and trying to show people he's still around.
:coolclick: Very well stated...but I thought that he was the WBC champ?
He got stripped, David Diaz holds it now I think, cc returned,
Really? Hmmmmm...I thought that that was off due to Diaz Morales.
Sanctioning bodies & politics are worse than snakes & grass. It amazes me that these fighters fight for minimal dollars, respect, & their lives while these fat cats & promoters just get paid off of their hard work.
Douche bags.
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Well the Lightweight division is not very big at the moment and the thing with Diaz not getting credit well when i watch him i just do not care for him i mean he is a pressure guy with no power and that turns me off of him i not sure why other people do not like him but he is facing Katidas next i hear he is good and everyone saying it is going to be good so maybe i might be wrong about him i just going to keep watching him he might grow on me
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Casamayor is almost 40, fights once every couple years and doesn't even hold a belt.
If he's ignored it's his own fault, he could start by actually taking some fights and trying to show people he's still around.
:coolclick: Very well stated...but I thought that he was the WBC champ?
He got stripped, David Diaz holds it now I think, cc returned,
If I'm not mistaken Casamayor was given the belt back. So I guess there's 2 champions. Anyway who gives a fuck, it's just another example why the belts mean nothing.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Casamayor is almost 40, fights once every couple years and doesn't even hold a belt.
If he's ignored it's his own fault, he could start by actually taking some fights and trying to show people he's still around.
:coolclick: Very well stated...but I thought that he was the WBC champ?
He got stripped, David Diaz holds it now I think, cc returned,
Really? Hmmmmm...I thought that that was off due to Diaz Morales.
Sanctioning bodies & politics are worse than snakes & grass. It amazes me that these fighters fight for minimal dollars, respect, & their lives while these fat cats & promoters just get paid off of their hard work.
Douche bags.
I have no idea why they did it but when Freitas announced his unretirement, Casamayor said he wanted to fight him. The WBC wanted him to fight Diaz though and so they just stripped him of the title instead.
A nice honest and totally above board decision :Sarcasm:
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
Casamayor is almost 40, fights once every couple years and doesn't even hold a belt.
If he's ignored it's his own fault, he could start by actually taking some fights and trying to show people he's still around.
:coolclick: Very well stated...but I thought that he was the WBC champ?
He got stripped, David Diaz holds it now I think, cc returned,
Really? Hmmmmm...I thought that that was off due to Diaz Morales.
Sanctioning bodies & politics are worse than snakes & grass. It amazes me that these fighters fight for minimal dollars, respect, & their lives while these fat cats & promoters just get paid off of their hard work.
Douche bags.
I have no idea why they did it but when Freitas announced his unretirement, Casamayor said he wanted to fight him. The WBC wanted him to fight Diaz though and so they just stripped him of the title instead.
A nice honest and totally above board decision :Sarcasm:
:coolclick: for the info...& you may be right...but I swear that I thought I read that he had the title back somehow or maybe it was a Ring title...or some shit...maybe it's that I read that about him being stripped over Freitas...I just don't recall...I don't keep up with Casa much...& I aint offering excuses for not knowing...but I'm a bit fuzzy on all matters Casa.
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Re: Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
I think he's a boxing legend in the making. I've never said that about any other fighter but in Juan's case I will put that out there cause I really believe it. I think if people gave him a chance and actually watched him instead of listening to critics saying he has fought weak competition (which is not true), or he cant punch (which is also not true), he would be embraced more. His last two performances were not only dominant, but damn good fights. Hes not a one punch KO artist but he can put break someone down and stop him, which is even more punishing. I dont blame him for not fighting Casamayor right now because there is nothing to gain by fighting him. If he beat him people would say Casa was past it.
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Look boom i watched him fight and i would not say he is a legend in the making quite yet just a good fighter i mean the lightweight division not weak sure as shit ain't strong either lest see how he does when he moves up which i think going to happen in a year or so that lack of power going to be the end of him because if he can not back a guy up what is he going to do but who knows but keep it in mind
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Agreed mick. He is relentless in the ring and i enjoyed the diaz v diaz fight. I love the little sounds he makes when he throws punches.
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Juan Diaz is not a fan favourite for 1 main reason,and Larry Merchant mentioned it and the end of the Diaz-Diaz fight,where's the hype? This young,unbeaten strong fighter with an exciting style,with THREE belts and he's fighting in Chicago?! For what reason? Where was the hype for the fight?
Don King is not doing enough to make him a star,which he should be by now. Hopefully he'll get his chance soon,he deserves it. Also,with his style,you have to winder how long he is going to be around.
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If he trys to move up in weight i do not think he will last very long at all then go off and be a lawyer
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Re: Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
I would say probably just the lack of power, some people just can't get behind a guy that doesn't have a lot of power.
I don't know, he's one of my favorite fighters and I've liked him for a long time.
Casa might be lineal but Juan Diaz is the best fighter in the world at 135. Of course there going to try to get a fight with Pac, its more money, more exposure, its like Floyd fighting ODLH, that might not be who everybody wanted him to fight but its just the logical fight to make money wise, career wise. But I don't think there gonna get a Pac fight any time soon so hopefully he'll get a fight with Casa. He won't get any credit for winning that though, people will just say Casa's shot.
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Think he is going with the wbo mandatory Katidas or what ever his name is every one says it is going to be a good fight but i do not know the guy
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Look boom i watched him fight and i would not say he is a legend in the making quite yet just a good fighter i mean the lightweight division not weak sure as S*** ain't strong either lest see how he does when he moves up which i think going to happen in a year or so that lack of power going to be the end of him because if he can not back a guy up what is he going to do but who knows but keep it in mind
Im just going by his age, what hes already done, and what he can do. He has already had good career and is a vetran at 24 and fights like one. He could retire tommorow at 33-0 as champion but he has probably a decade lefty in the sport, maybe more. Hes not a "great" fighter yet but he will do what all great fighter do when faced with adversity, and win. There arent many guys who have accomplished as much as him at his age in the way that he did. Unless he cant handle a loss, I cant see his career doing anything but get better. If I was him id stay at lightweight as long as possible cause youre right he wont be as sucessful at higher weights.
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CC very well put Boom i am a bit harsh on Juan but he has accomplished a lot your right
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CC very well put Boom i am a bit harsh on Juan but he has accomplished a lot your right
who has he beaten ???
An overrated Julio and washed up Freitas ???
He is good but not great..IMO Casamayor schools this guy ;)
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Juan Diaz is not a fan favourite for 1 main reason,and Larry Merchant mentioned it and the end of the Diaz-Diaz fight,where's the hype? This young,unbeaten strong fighter with an exciting style,with THREE belts and he's fighting in Chicago?! For what reason? Where was the hype for the fight?
Don King is not doing enough to make him a star,which he should be by now. Hopefully he'll get his chance soon,he deserves it. Also,with his style,you have to winder how long he is going to be around.
Very well put. :coolclick:
For Don King to be the great promoter & marketing genius that he claims to be...he sure as shat aint done jack for Juan.
Personally...I think he'll do fine with his style...as long as he starts utilizing his defense more often.
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Think he is going with the wbo mandatory Katidas or what ever his name is every one says it is going to be a good fight but i do not know the guy
Katsidis is the shit...but he won't be able to hang with the output of Juan Diaz & he'll also get read like an open book.
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Look boom i watched him fight and i would not say he is a legend in the making quite yet just a good fighter i mean the lightweight division not weak sure as S*** ain't strong either lest see how he does when he moves up which i think going to happen in a year or so that lack of power going to be the end of him because if he can not back a guy up what is he going to do but who knows but keep it in mind
Im just going by his age, what hes already done, and what he can do. He has already had good career and is a vetran at 24 and fights like one. He could retire tommorow at 33-0 as champion but he has probably a decade lefty in the sport, maybe more. Hes not a "great" fighter yet but he will do what all great fighter do when faced with adversity, and win. There arent many guys who have accomplished as much as him at his age in the way that he did. Unless he cant handle a loss, I cant see his career doing anything but get better. If I was him id stay at lightweight as long as possible cause youre right he wont be as sucessful at higher weights.
:coolclick: Boom. Very well put.
He has done a shitload to be as young as he is...no way in hell can I see or picture him doing anything outside of improving. I agree that he needs to stay at lightweight for awhile. There are plenty of game contenders to beat...after that...even though I have my doubts...I want to believe that he could be effective at light welter...I guess we'll just have to wait & see.
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:coolclick: Boom. Very well put.
He has done a shitload to be as young as he is...no way in hell can I see or picture him doing anything outside of improving. I agree that he needs to stay at lightweight for awhile. There are plenty of game contenders to beat...after that...even though I have my doubts...I want to believe that he could be effective at light welter...I guess we'll just have to wait & see.
I also want to believe that ??? But he has to build a stronger foundation...BAby FAT will be beaten up so bad by the Welters IMO...He must tone those muscles.Maybe after 2 years the babyfat will already catch up to him and he will have to move up...I highly doubt it that he can dominate the higher weights with his style :-\
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CC very well put Boom i am a bit harsh on Juan but he has accomplished a lot your right
who has he beaten ???
An overrated Julio and washed up Freitas ???
He is good but not great..IMO Casamayor schools this guy ;)
He’s beaten Cotto, Freitas, Diaz, Sim, & Delgado to name but a few that I recall.
Those were pretty good names to best at lightweight & he’s held & defended his title 9 or 10 times now since 2004 I think.
That’s pretty impressive for a young contender/champion...but he does still have some growing & proving to do.
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maybe becuase he promotes his college more so then his boxing. I guess fans don't take him seriously cause he said so himself that college is his main focus and boxing is just a hobby. He pretty much shoots himself on his toes, he shouldn't be bragging about his college and should be all boxing.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Juan Diaz is not a fan favourite for 1 main reason,and Larry Merchant mentioned it and the end of the Diaz-Diaz fight,where's the hype? This young,unbeaten strong fighter with an exciting style,with THREE belts and he's fighting in Chicago?! For what reason? Where was the hype for the fight?
Don King is not doing enough to make him a star,which he should be by now. Hopefully he'll get his chance soon,he deserves it. Also,with his style,you have to winder how long he is going to be around.
Very well put. :coolclick:
For Don King to be the great promoter & marketing genius that he claims to be...he sure as shat aint done jack for Juan.
Personally...I think he'll do fine with his style...as long as he starts utilizing his defense more often.
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Think he is going with the wbo mandatory Katidas or what ever his name is every one says it is going to be a good fight but i do not know the guy
Katsidis is the S***...but he won't be able to hang with the output of Juan Diaz & he'll also get read like an open book.
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Look boom i watched him fight and i would not say he is a legend in the making quite yet just a good fighter i mean the lightweight division not weak sure as S*** ain't strong either lest see how he does when he moves up which i think going to happen in a year or so that lack of power going to be the end of him because if he can not back a guy up what is he going to do but who knows but keep it in mind
Im just going by his age, what hes already done, and what he can do. He has already had good career and is a vetran at 24 and fights like one. He could retire tommorow at 33-0 as champion but he has probably a decade lefty in the sport, maybe more. Hes not a "great" fighter yet but he will do what all great fighter do when faced with adversity, and win. There arent many guys who have accomplished as much as him at his age in the way that he did. Unless he cant handle a loss, I cant see his career doing anything but get better. If I was him id stay at lightweight as long as possible cause youre right he wont be as sucessful at higher weights.
:coolclick: Boom. Very well put.
He has done a shitload to be as young as he is...no way in hell can I see or picture him doing anything outside of improving. I agree that he needs to stay at lightweight for awhile. There are plenty of game contenders to beat...after that...even though I have my doubts...I want to believe that he could be effective at light welter...I guess we'll just have to wait & see.
Thanks Wack cc. Im hoping he can be effective at higher weights too and he may be. First though he should continue his domination at lightweight for as long as his body is comfortable there and not weight jump for big paydays like so many guys are doing right now.
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Re: Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
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Originally Posted by Mr140
CC very well put Boom i am a bit harsh on Juan but he has accomplished a lot your right
cc Mr. Im harsh on a lot of fighters too.
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Re: Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
I don't think Diaz is ducking Casamayor at all. Diaz simply wants to get paid, and the only one at or near his weight class that can get him paid is the Pacman.
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Re: Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
well Juan can get the full respect if he goes up to lightwelter and welter and still win there. Pacquaio, Mayweather, Barrera, Morales had done it. That's why they are more respected than Juan.
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Re: Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
I had the privelage to see Diaz fight back in 2003. Hack it I think he lost that fight but it was close.
I wasn't a fan then and little by little hes proven me wrong time and time again.
Now I have no choice but to respect the kid for what hes done.
24 yrs. old, H.S. Grad, College student, dedicates time to charities loves his mom and is doing good for his family.
Fights like a mad bull. Whats not to like about the kid?
Hes won my respect and for that I :appl: him I'll tell you 1 thing from the Freitas fight and on hes gotten a lot of attention and hes gotten a lot of people to notive him now. Watch the next fight and see the turn out for him... ;)
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Re: Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
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Originally Posted by brucelee
well Juan can get the full respect if he goes up to lightwelter and welter and still win there. Pacquaio, Mayweather, Barrera, Morales had done it. That's why they are more respected than Juan.
that's exactly what he needs to do....go up in weight and challenge the bigger guys to earn more respect...No disrespect to JD but challenging PAC says a lot about his character really...He just wants to get paid :-\
If he wants PAC he should go down to 130 ;)
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Re: Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
He is a very good fighter and champion now. I tell you. If he had a bit more zip to his punches, he would be at the top of my P4P list on potential alone.
The way the punches just flow from him though is a complete pleasure to watch. He makes it all look so effortless.
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Re: Good read, good question : Why is Juan Diaz not respected or a fan favorite?
He is still young and he is just now making some noise. His last two wins were very convincing and exciting. With his style he will be a fan favorite soon enough. Trust me, by the end of next year Juan Diaz will have stepped into the ring with eather Casa or Manny or both. And I give him a good chance of still beeing undefeated afterwards.