Has Any Fighter In Recent Memory Fought As Many Quality Fighters In A Row Than JMM ?

JMM's last 8 fights.

Victor Polo
Chris John
Terdsak Jandaeng
Jimrex Jaca
MAB
Rocky Juarez
Manny Pacquaio
Joel Casamayor

And now Juan Diaz from the top of my head, i can't think of a fighter. Who has fought that kind of level of opposition in a row. That truly is quite a list.

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

JMM's last 8 fights.

Victor Polo
Chris John
Terdsak Jandaeng
Jimrex Jaca
MAB
Rocky Juarez
Manny Pacquaio
Joel Casamayor

And now Juan Diaz from the top of my head, i can't think of a fighter. Who has fought that kind of level of opposition in a row. That truly is quite a list.

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Bernard Hopkins

last 8 fights
Kelly Pavlik
Joe Calzaghe
Winky Wright
Antonio Tarver
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
Howard Eastman
ODLH

Winky Wright:
Hopkins
Quartey
Taylor
Soliman(not the greatest)
Trinidad
Mosley
Mosley

Pacquiao has a pretty good list
I don't think Mayweather's is the worst.
Cotto has a good list.
Hopkins

Notice how these guys (JMM, Hopkins, Winky) are not UNBEATEN through that high class level of opposition.

If every fighter consistently fought world-class fighters everytime, doubt there would ever be an unbeaten fighter.

All about making the right fight at the right time ;)

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Notice how these guys (JMM, Hopkins, Winky) are not UNBEATEN through that high class level of opposition.

If every fighter consistently fought world-class fighters everytime, doubt there would ever be an unbeaten fighter.

All about making the right fight at the right time ;)

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I wish the top level guys would fight each other more, the alphabet mandatory shit and ODLH playing the payday that won't retire don't help.

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

JMM's last 8 fights.

Victor Polo
Chris John
Terdsak Jandaeng
Jimrex Jaca
MAB
Rocky Juarez
Manny Pacquaio
Joel Casamayor

And now Juan Diaz from the top of my head, i can't think of a fighter. Who has fought that kind of level of opposition in a row. That truly is quite a list.

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Bernard Hopkins

last 8 fights
Kelly Pavlik
Joe Calzaghe
Winky Wright
Antonio Tarver
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
Howard Eastman
ODLH

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I totally forgot about Bernard Hopkins i don't know why, but he's for certain up there so is Winky Wright.

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

JMM's last 8 fights.

Victor Polo
Chris John
Terdsak Jandaeng
Jimrex Jaca
MAB
Rocky Juarez
Manny Pacquaio
Joel Casamayor

And now Juan Diaz from the top of my head, i can't think of a fighter. Who has fought that kind of level of opposition in a row. That truly is quite a list.

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Bernard Hopkins

last 8 fights
Kelly Pavlik
Joe Calzaghe
Winky Wright
Antonio Tarver
Jermain Taylor
Jermain Taylor
Howard Eastman
ODLH

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I totally forgot about Bernard Hopkins i don't know why, but he's for certain up there so is Winky Wright.

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JMM definately has a great resume too.

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Cotto has a good list

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HHhhhhmmmmm I wish I could say I agree. Sure, Judah and Mosley are big names but, I would be more convinced if they were on their primes. I would have rather see Cotto face Mosley back when Mosley beat ODLH. When he had that speed, KO punch, fast legs, etc. Same thing with Judah. All the other guys in his list, well, what do you think about them?

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

JMM's last 8 fights.

Victor Polo
Chris John
Terdsak Jandaeng
Jimrex Jaca
MAB
Rocky Juarez
Manny Pacquaio
Joel Casamayor

And now Juan Diaz from the top of my head, i can't think of a fighter. Who has fought that kind of level of opposition in a row. That truly is quite a list.

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I actually think his resume is rather unremarkable considering his exalted standing in the p4p rankings.

Yes Manny Pacquaio and Chris John are top opponents but he lost to both them, whatever the circumstances. Rocky Juarez is a perrenial loser to top level opposition having been previously beaten by Barrera twice and Humberto Soto. Joel Casamayor was completely shot.

Jandaeng was a prospect nothing more, Guzman and Lueveno have both beaten him. Victor Polo was nothing special in elite terms having failed previously 4 times in world title bouts and Jimrex Jaca is a complete nobody who Marquez made one hell of a meal out of. He hasn't won any of his last 5 fights, an appalling opponent for a number 2 rated fighter imo.

It actually really annoys me that Marquez is rated at number 2 in the p4p ahead of Calzaghe whose last six opponents are leaps and bounds better and he won them all

Joes last six, Lacy, Bika, Manfredo, Kessler, Hopkins, Jones Jr.

And he won all six. His resume pisses all over Marquez's last six imo.

Jimrex Jaca doesn't even come up to the level of a Tocker Podwill.

You could also argue that B-Hop beat Calzaghe, and beat way better other opposition except Kessler, shouldn't he be ahead of Calzaghe, even if he lost a close fight to Calzaghe, since we have established that beating a guy doesn't ncessarily make you better than him, and I see Hopkins doing better against guys like Wright, Pavlik, Dawson, Glen Johnson than Calzaghe would

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

JMM's last 8 fights.

Victor Polo
Chris John
Terdsak Jandaeng
Jimrex Jaca
MAB
Rocky Juarez
Manny Pacquaio
Joel Casamayor

And now Juan Diaz from the top of my head, i can't think of a fighter. Who has fought that kind of level of opposition in a row. That truly is quite a list.

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I actually think his resume is rather unremarkable considering his exalted standing in the p4p rankings.

Yes Manny Pacquaio and Chris John are top opponents but he lost to both them, whatever the circumstances. Rocky Juarez is a perrenial loser to top level opposition having been previously beaten by Barrera twice and Humberto Soto. Joel Casamayor was completely shot.

Jandaeng was a prospect nothing more, Guzman and Lueveno have both beaten him. Victor Polo was nothing special in elite terms having failed previously 4 times in world title bouts and Jimrex Jaca is a complete nobody who Marquez made one hell of a meal out of. He hasn't won any of his last 5 fights, an appalling opponent for a number 2 rated fighter imo.

It actually really annoys me that Marquez is rated at number 2 in the p4p ahead of Calzaghe whose last six opponents are leaps and bounds better and he won them all

Joes last six, Lacy, Bika, Manfredo, Kessler, Hopkins, Jones Jr.

And he won all six. His resume pisses all over Marquez's last six imo.

Jimrex Jaca doesn't even come up to the level of a Tocker Podwill.

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Bilbo we could also easily do this with Joe Calzaghe's opposition.

Roy Jones = Completely shot much more so than Joel Casamayor, Roy Jones's last good performance was in 2002.

Peter Manfredo = Thats got to be a joke right ?

Jeff Lacy = Overhyped young champion who since his loss to Joe Calzaghe, has got 2 gift decisions against C class fighters, and was recently smacked around by Jermain Taylor.

Sakio Bika = Not a bad fighter but he did get a gift against Sam Soliman, and went life and death with Jaidon Codrington, who is a B class opponent at best. Sakio Bika hasn't done that much he also got whooped by Lucian Bute, Sakio Bika has not beaten 1 elite fighter yet.

The only ones i'll give you are Mikkel Kessler who you could also say, hadn't really beaten anyone when he fought Joe Calzaghe. And Bernard Hopkins was 43 but he is still top notch fighter so Joe Calzaghe does deserve credit, but i didn't think he even won the fight.

And had it been against a younger Bernard Hopkins who was KO'ing his opponents, instead of outboxing them to boring decisions, then i personally don't think Joe Calzaghe would of won, i don't think he even won against the 43 year old version.

DIdn't Jones fight Ruiz in 04? That was a pretty special fight. But I am argueing semantics, and Joe didn't look as impressive against Jones as I was expecting, hell he couldn't even stop him.

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Cotto has a good list

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HHhhhhmmmmm I wish I could say I agree. Sure, Judah and Mosley are big names but, I would be more convinced if they were on their primes. I would have rather see Cotto face Mosley back when Mosley beat ODLH. When he had that speed, KO punch, fast legs, etc. Same thing with Judah. All the other guys in his list, well, what do you think about them?

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He's had Quintana, Judah, Mosley, Margarito, Ricardo Torres, Paulie, Urkal. Its not the best, but it was decent.

I think Ricardo Torres has dynamite in his fists and is dangerous against anyone, Quintana is a really good boxer who showed it against P. Williams their first fight. Margarito is obviously MArgarito. Judah isn't the best fighter ever, but he looked a lot better against Clottey than he did against Cotto which is saying something about how good Cotto is. ALl in all your right he shouldn't be up there, but he has foughten some good guys.

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DIdn't Jones fight Ruiz in 04? That was a pretty special fight. But I am argueing semantics, and Joe didn't look as impressive against Jones as I was expecting, hell he couldn't even stop him.

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2003 i believe it was i totally forgot about that fight, i guess i was saying RJJ's last good performance at Light Heavyweight was in 2002 against Clinton Woods.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

DIdn't Jones fight Ruiz in 04? That was a pretty special fight. But I am argueing semantics, and Joe didn't look as impressive against Jones as I was expecting, hell he couldn't even stop him.

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2003 i believe it was i totally forgot about that fight, i guess i was saying RJJ's last good performance at Light Heavyweight was in 2002 against Clinton Woods.

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Wow that was 6 years ago, Wow good job Joe, way to take on the top opposition...

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

JMM's last 8 fights.

Victor Polo
Chris John
Terdsak Jandaeng
Jimrex Jaca
MAB
Rocky Juarez
Manny Pacquaio
Joel Casamayor

And now Juan Diaz from the top of my head, i can't think of a fighter. Who has fought that kind of level of opposition in a row. That truly is quite a list.

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I actually think his resume is rather unremarkable considering his exalted standing in the p4p rankings.

Yes Manny Pacquaio and Chris John are top opponents but he lost to both them, whatever the circumstances. Rocky Juarez is a perrenial loser to top level opposition having been previously beaten by Barrera twice and Humberto Soto. Joel Casamayor was completely shot.

Jandaeng was a prospect nothing more, Guzman and Lueveno have both beaten him. Victor Polo was nothing special in elite terms having failed previously 4 times in world title bouts and Jimrex Jaca is a complete nobody who Marquez made one hell of a meal out of. He hasn't won any of his last 5 fights, an appalling opponent for a number 2 rated fighter imo.

It actually really annoys me that Marquez is rated at number 2 in the p4p ahead of Calzaghe whose last six opponents are leaps and bounds better and he won them all

Joes last six, Lacy, Bika, Manfredo, Kessler, Hopkins, Jones Jr.

And he won all six. His resume pisses all over Marquez's last six imo.

Jimrex Jaca doesn't even come up to the level of a Tocker Podwill.

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Bilbo we could also easily do this with Joe Calzaghe's opposition.

Roy Jones = Completely shot much more so than Joel Casamayor, Roy Jones's last good performance was in 2002.

Peter Manfredo = Thats got to be a joke right ?

Jeff Lacy = Overhyped young champion who since his loss to Joe Calzaghe, has got 2 gift decisions against C class fighters, and was recently smacked around by Jermain Taylor.

Sakio Bika = Not a bad fighter but he did get a gift against Sam Soliman, and went life and death with Jaidon Codrington, who is a B class opponent at best. Sakio Bika hasn't done that much he also got whooped by Lucian Bute, Sakio Bika has not beaten 1 elite fighter yet.

The only ones i'll give you are Mikkel Kessler who you could also say, hadn't really beaten anyone when he fought Joe Calzaghe. And Bernard Hopkins was 43 but he is still top notch fighter so Joe Calzaghe does deserve credit, but i didn't think he even won the fight.

And had it been against a younger Bernard Hopkins who was KO'ing his opponents, instead of outboxing them to boring decisions, then i personally don't think Joe Calzaghe would of won, i don't think he even won against the 43 year old version.

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Jones is one of the greatest fighters of all time, he was past his best but no more so against Joe than Casa was against Marquez, and less than Oscar was against Manny.

Lacy and Kessler were both arguably p4p stars when Calzaghe beat them, if they wern't in the Ring top 10 then neither was outside the top 12 certainly much better opposition than Casamayor, Jaca, Polo and Jandaeng.

Chris John is only really heralded becuase he got a win over Marquez, aside from that result he's done nothing of real significance.

Marquez's best opponent was Manny and he lost, just he did to Chris John.

Sure you can argue that in your opinion he should of won but it doesn't change the fact that he lost them both wheras Calzaghe has beaten everybody in his last 6 fights.

Nobody can convince me that wins over Jaca, Jandaeng, Casamayor and Polo along with defeats to John and Pacquaio is a better resume than going 6-0 against Lacy, Manfredo, Bika, Kessler, Hopkins and Jones Jr.

Aside from Manfredo all 5 of the rest represent tough opposition. If you really think Jandaeng, Polo and Jaca top that lot, none of whom have even won an alphabet strap let alone been considered one of the champs in the division or a p4p star then you are just blinded by your Calzaghe hatred.

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I actually think his resume is rather unremarkable considering his exalted standing in the p4p rankings.

Yes Manny Pacquaio and Chris John are top opponents but he lost to both them, whatever the circumstances. Rocky Juarez is a perrenial loser to top level opposition having been previously beaten by Barrera twice and Humberto Soto. Joel Casamayor was completely shot.

Jandaeng was a prospect nothing more, Guzman and Lueveno have both beaten him. Victor Polo was nothing special in elite terms having failed previously 4 times in world title bouts and Jimrex Jaca is a complete nobody who Marquez made one hell of a meal out of. He hasn't won any of his last 5 fights, an appalling opponent for a number 2 rated fighter imo.

It actually really annoys me that Marquez is rated at number 2 in the p4p ahead of Calzaghe whose last six opponents are leaps and bounds better and he won them all

Joes last six, Lacy, Bika, Manfredo, Kessler, Hopkins, Jones Jr.

And he won all six. His resume pisses all over Marquez's last six imo.

Jimrex Jaca doesn't even come up to the level of a Tocker Podwill.

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Bilbo we could also easily do this with Joe Calzaghe's opposition.

Roy Jones = Completely shot much more so than Joel Casamayor, Roy Jones's last good performance was in 2002.

Peter Manfredo = Thats got to be a joke right ?

Jeff Lacy = Overhyped young champion who since his loss to Joe Calzaghe, has got 2 gift decisions against C class fighters, and was recently smacked around by Jermain Taylor.

Sakio Bika = Not a bad fighter but he did get a gift against Sam Soliman, and went life and death with Jaidon Codrington, who is a B class opponent at best. Sakio Bika hasn't done that much he also got whooped by Lucian Bute, Sakio Bika has not beaten 1 elite fighter yet.

The only ones i'll give you are Mikkel Kessler who you could also say, hadn't really beaten anyone when he fought Joe Calzaghe. And Bernard Hopkins was 43 but he is still top notch fighter so Joe Calzaghe does deserve credit, but i didn't think he even won the fight.

And had it been against a younger Bernard Hopkins who was KO'ing his opponents, instead of outboxing them to boring decisions, then i personally don't think Joe Calzaghe would of won, i don't think he even won against the 43 year old version.

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Jones is one of the greatest fighters of all time, he was past his best but no more so against Joe than Casa was against Marquez, and less than Oscar was against Manny.

Lacy and Kessler were both arguably p4p stars when Calzaghe beat them, if they wern't in the Ring top 10 then neither was outside the top 12 certainly much better opposition than Casamayor, Jaca, Polo and Jandaeng.

Chris John is only really heralded becuase he got a win over Marquez, aside from that result he's done nothing of real significance.

Marquez's best opponent was Manny and he lost, just he did to Chris John.

Sure you can argue that in your opinion he should of won but it doesn't change the fact that he lost them both wheras Calzaghe has beaten everybody in his last 6 fights.

Nobody can convince me that wins over Jaca, Jandaeng, Casamayor and Polo along with defeats to John and Pacquaio is a better resume than going 6-0 against Lacy, Manfredo, Bika, Kessler, Hopkins and Jones Jr.

Aside from Manfredo all 5 of the rest represent tough opposition. If you really think Jandaeng, Polo and Jaca top that lot, none of whom have even won an alphabet strap let alone been considered one of the champs in the division or a p4p star then you are just blinded by your Calzaghe hatred.

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Sorry but please Bilbo do not even compare Joel Casamayor/Roy Jones, Joel Casamayor wern't at his best granted. But he still fought very good against JMM. And was pretty even with him until he got KO'ed in the 11th round.

Joel Casamayor had never been KO'ed and was the ring champion, what had RJJ done since 2003 ? his record since the John Ruiz fight is 3-4 he went life and death with a mediocre opponent like Anthony Hanshaw, KO'ed twice by Glen Johnson/Antonio Tarver. And lost 4 rounds to a blown up Welterweight who had been retired since 2005.

If you honestly think Joel Casamayor/Roy Jones are in the same class regarding, how shot they were then im speechless i really am. And sorry i don't think Jeff Lacy/Sakio Bika/Shot RJJ/Peter Manfredo are in Chris John's class.

Chris John is 42-0 and has made 9 title defenses, granted some of his opponents are questionable. But he is still a very good fighter, and JMM did deserve a win against him. I don't think you've seen that fight Bilbo, theres no question JMM deserved that win.

By atleast 3 rounds it was a hometown decision and anyone who saw it, knows JMM won that fight no question. It wasn't like the 2 Manny Pacquiao fights which could of gone either way.

Im not trying to say fighters like Victor Polo are world class operator's. But there still goodish opponents, and mixed in with guys like MAB, Manny Pacquiao, Rocky Juarez, Joel Casamayor, all in a row non stop and considering in all those 8 fights.

4 of them were at Featherweight, 3 at Super Featherweight. And 1 at Lightweight adds to the challenge does it not ? which makes it even more impressive.

Oscar De La Hoya

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

JMM's last 8 fights.

Victor Polo
Chris John
Terdsak Jandaeng
Jimrex Jaca
MAB
Rocky Juarez
Manny Pacquaio
Joel Casamayor

And now Juan Diaz from the top of my head, i can't think of a fighter. Who has fought that kind of level of opposition in a row. That truly is quite a list.

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I actually think his resume is rather unremarkable considering his exalted standing in the p4p rankings.

Yes Manny Pacquaio and Chris John are top opponents but he lost to both them, whatever the circumstances. Rocky Juarez is a perrenial loser to top level opposition having been previously beaten by Barrera twice and Humberto Soto. Joel Casamayor was completely shot.

Jandaeng was a prospect nothing more, Guzman and Lueveno have both beaten him. Victor Polo was nothing special in elite terms having failed previously 4 times in world title bouts and Jimrex Jaca is a complete nobody who Marquez made one hell of a meal out of. He hasn't won any of his last 5 fights, an appalling opponent for a number 2 rated fighter imo.

It actually really annoys me that Marquez is rated at number 2 in the p4p ahead of Calzaghe whose last six opponents are leaps and bounds better and he won them all

Joes last six, Lacy, Bika, Manfredo, Kessler, Hopkins, Jones Jr.

And he won all six. His resume pisses all over Marquez's last six imo.

Jimrex Jaca doesn't even come up to the level of a Tocker Podwill.

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:lolhaha: That name alone kills it all.

Chris John got the nod against Marquez. He sure as hell didn't beat him or win that fight. John got a hometown decision.

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Cotto has a good list

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HHhhhhmmmmm I wish I could say I agree. Sure, Judah and Mosley are big names but, I would be more convinced if they were on their primes. I would have rather see Cotto face Mosley back when Mosley beat ODLH. When he had that speed, KO punch, fast legs, etc. Same thing with Judah. All the other guys in his list, well, what do you think about them?

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He's had Quintana, Judah, Mosley, Margarito, Ricardo Torres, Paulie, Urkal. Its not the best, but it was decent.

I think Ricardo Torres has dynamite in his fists and is dangerous against anyone, Quintana is a really good boxer who showed it against P. Williams their first fight. Margarito is obviously MArgarito. Judah isn't the best fighter ever, but he looked a lot better against Clottey than he did against Cotto which is saying something about how good Cotto is. ALl in all your right he shouldn't be up there, but he has foughten some good guys.

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Sure. We can say Cotto's opponents have been "decent" but not really up there on the list. Something that doesn't convince me that much about past opponents is who they also faced in their careers. Let's say that Jennings had a KO punch and all but if we looked at his resume, who has he fought really? Yeah, those kind of things don't really impress me from Cotto's resume compared to others that have been mentioned in this thread and others. But as for style and all, sure, Cotto has it :cool:. Let's see how he does against the long list of top guys on their prime. Hopefully he'll do just fine and not be like Fernando Vargas who sadly lost against big names in their primes.

And I agree with you Chino :)

How recent?

Holy fought some badass names consecutively.
Buster Douglas, Foreman, Cooper, Holmes, Bowe, Stewart, Bowe, Moorer, Mercer, Bowe, Czyz, Tyson, Tyson, Moorer, Bean, Lennox, Lennox, Ruiz, Ruiz, Ruiz, Rahman, Byrd, Toney.

In that order I reaaaaaaly doubt any boxer will have that many top fighters with the exception of a couple.

Except for OScar De La Hoya, I think you would be hard pressed, but Dela Hoya except for at the very begining of his career has fought solid opponents every single time.

Even back in SRR days they didn't fight that many really good guys in a row, but they fought more bums inbetween. If you look at those guys records against the really talented opposition it measures up pretty comparably to nowadays.

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And I agree with you Chino :)

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And I agree with VD :)

I think it's cool how Mayorga fought.

Mosley
Vargas
Oscar
Picirillo
Trinidad

But yeah Hopkins was the first that pop into mind when i read the thread title.

Vasquez fought

Marquez
Marquez
Marquez
Gonzalez

that is 4 P4P quality fights back to back.. ;D

Pacquiao's 13 fights, the order is from the latest to oldest.

W- TKO 8 - Oscar de la Hoya
W – TKO 9 - David Diaz
W – SD - Juan Manuel Marquez
W – UD - Marco Antonio Barrera
W – KO 8 - Jorge Solis
W – KO 3 - Erik Morales
W – UD - Oscar Larios
W - TKO 10 - Erik Morales
W - KO – 6 Hector Velasquez
L – UD - Erik Morales
W - TKO – 4 Fahsan Por Thawatchai
D – SD - Juan Manuel Marquez
W – TKO 11 - Marco Antonio Barrera

Some list. Includes a few of the great ones!

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Pacquiao's 13 fights, the order is from the latest to oldest.

W- TKO 8 - Oscar de la Hoya
W – TKO 9 - David Diaz
W – SD - Juan Manuel Marquez
W – UD - Marco Antonio Barrera
W – KO 8 - Jorge Solis
W – KO 3 - Erik Morales
W – UD - Oscar Larios
W - TKO 10 - Erik Morales
W - KO – 6 Hector Velasquez
L – UD - Erik Morales
W - TKO – 4 Fahsan Por Thawatchai
D – SD - Juan Manuel Marquez
W – TKO 11 - Marco Antonio Barrera

Some list. Includes a few of the great ones!

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If you add Ricky Hatton and Floyd Mayweather to that list (hoping they happen), it would be one hell of a resume.

Oscar Larios should be in BOLD. He's was a champion before pac and now the current WBC 126lbs Champion.


Lehlo Ledwabba was a serious TOP 15 fighter p4p and was considered the top dog @122


Jorge Julio - Is a former 2 time World Champion

Chatchai Sasakul - Is a linear Legendary Champion

Only Oscar Dela Hoya and BHOP rivals PAC's resume

Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez and Erik Morales in 16 Months starting Nov 2003 ???!!!!!!!!!!


Its like taking Joe Frazier, George Foreman and Muhammad Ali in 16 months

SRL, Marvin Hagler and Thomas hearns in 18 months??? :o


Haters cant decode this im sure :confused:

edwin valero?;D

Calzaghe :lolhaha:

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edwin valero?;D

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A list of "Tuk-tuks", HOF as Brad C would coin it! LOL!

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Oscar Larios should be in BOLD. He's was a champion before pac and now the current WBC 126lbs Champion.


Lehlo Ledwabba was a serious TOP 15 fighter p4p and was considered the top dog @122


Jorge Julio - Is a former 2 time World Champion

Chatchai Sasakul - Is a linear Legendary Champion

Only Oscar Dela Hoya and BHOP rivals PAC's resume

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Bolded names are of those Future Hall of Famers!

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Calzaghe :lolhaha:

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What's incredible about Joe's list would be the left side of it... showing only W's exclusively! Winningly discriminating of D's and L's, if you get the drift.

Barring the unjustifiable Manfredo fight, Calzaghe's last half-a-dozen are top draw.

What current other fighter between 160-175 would remain unbeaten through - Lacy, Keslser, Bika, Hopkins and Roy?

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Barring the unjustifiable Manfredo fight, Calzaghe's last half-a-dozen are top draw.

What current other fighter between 160-175 would remain unbeaten through - Lacy, Keslser, Bika, Hopkins and Roy?

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The hate for Joe is amazing. He's beaten a whose who of the best fighters in thos weight classes and still gets no respect.

His last six fights resume is way above Marquez imo who is 4-2 after all

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

JMM's last 8 fights.

Victor Polo
Chris John
Terdsak Jandaeng
Jimrex Jaca
MAB
Rocky Juarez
Manny Pacquaio
Joel Casamayor

And now Juan Diaz from the top of my head, i can't think of a fighter. Who has fought that kind of level of opposition in a row. That truly is quite a list.

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Juan Manuel Marquez is way over-rated. Don't get me wrong I think Marquez is a great fighter but he has yet prove he is the great champion he is given credit for being. People (his fans) keep mentioning him with the same breath as MAB and EM. This something he hasn't earned. When did he fight EM? Juan Manuel Marquez. He fought MAB on his way down, Marquez missed his chance to "Prove" he is the great champion he is given credit for. When he refused to fight Naseem Hamed. Juan Manuel Márquez - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia Marquez is riding on the coat tails of Manny Pacquiao. I wish Marquez would just fight with his fists and not with his mouth. But I think it's too late for this champion to do that because his on his way out. If he ever gets a rematch with Pacquiao in 2009, after Pacquiao/Hatton (depends on Mayweather. is his love for money greater than his love for being a braggart) Pacquiao will just make him look old. Take him out of the p4p top ten.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Barring the unjustifiable Manfredo fight, Calzaghe's last half-a-dozen are top draw.

What current other fighter between 160-175 would remain unbeaten through - Lacy, Keslser, Bika, Hopkins and Roy?

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The hate for Joe is amazing. He's beaten a whose who of the best fighters in thos weight classes and still gets no respect.

His last six fights resume is way above Marquez imo who is 4-2 after all

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Calzaghe is hated beyond measure. Marquez is really good, but Calzaghe has done more in recent years for me. And IMO Barrera beat Marquez too, so that shoots a nail in it. Calzaghe hands down, he doesnt lose fights.

And as for Taeth saying there is a case for Hopkins beating Calzaghe. Get real. Twit. :rolleyes:

JMM is not over rated he is unlucky and would have beat Naz before MAB did.