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FIGHTHYPE \\ FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.: "IT'S OBVIOUS I GOT TO THIS POINT DOING SOMETHING RIGHT"
Trying not to read too much into it, but I would have thought he would have been one and done with Shane. Unless he feels it will be another ricky hatton easy 20million..
Floyd says of himself that he is "an entertainer period". Absolutely, the Baldomir fight was the finest example of boxing entertainment ever. That one had me really on my toes. Playing it safe and toying with a blown up Marquez had me ready to explode with wonder and delight too. I respect Floyd a lot as a fighter, but is he heck an entertainer. Arturro Gatti was what I call an entertainer. Someone who let it all hang out in the ring and even if he lost he gave you your money's worth. Floyd does just enough and with his defensive style is never going to be an entertainer in the way a boxer should be. As much as I respect Floyd, I actually find him quite boring to watch, especially when he's in fights that are poorly matched like Marquez and Baldomir.
Sorry for the little rant, but that comment just bugged me a little.
I did find that odd Mayweather talking about giving Mosley a rematch. Mayweather should win but Mosley is no walkover. I like watching boxing for the science of it and Mayweather is the epitome of boxing. Hit and not be hit. And even though Mayweather is tough to like personally he is right that he is doing something right. He does receive the best paydays and produce the most PPVs. But if he wasn't so talented he would probably be looked at as another Tarver. Having more talent in the mouth than in the body.
I agree with Miles - Floyd is not in the boxing business to entertain, he is in the boxing business to make money.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I love everything about floyd. Especially when he's pissing people off.
He's the pound for pound best and no one will beat him.
I hate gays as much as the next guy but this is to much! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
He is NOT P4P the best the title belongs to MANNY PACQUIAO......Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
Guess he will have to lose some of that dignity and chance Manny being on a roid rage in a fight to claim that title...
UNLESS
Being P4P means nothing to him as long as he is entertaining:D
i'm comfortable with my sexuality so I can say I love floyd.
Manny WAS pound for pound best. Her got the title by default when floyd retired. Floyd's back now so time to give it back.
Also look at the now. Floyd is fighting Shane Mosely, Manny opted to fight Josh Clottey. Nuff said.
Floyd is the man.
After Manny beat up Cotto don't forget. That was a risk fight, vs Mosley isn't as he knows his style will win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
Cotto who was damaged goods after margarito had taken every bit of man hood from him..... Not to mention the 25 million dollar drug test....Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0After Manny beat up Cotto don't forget. That was a risk fight, vs Mosley isn't as he knows his style will win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
No Mosely's not a risk fight at all, that's why a shit load of people are backing Shane to win... :rolleyes:
Even Mosley knows he's going to lose!
It's a risk fight by Floyds standards, certainly better than him fighting Matthew Hatton!
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Originally Posted by 0james0
Even fighting manny pacquiao on or off roids wouldn't be a risk for floyd! Theres no one that can touch the guy at welter.
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Originally Posted by Hornfinger
As airtight an argument as I'VE ever heard.
:rolleyes:
If floyd hadn't retired would the mythical title have changed hands? no. Simple.
Talking up a rematch with Shane is Floyd talking out of the side his mouth. It's like a code done through the media for a message directed at Pacquiao. its the equivalent of "Drop the suit.. Take the tests, Lose the roids...If not I have options...F_ck you... What are you gonna do, fight Clottey again?"
Mayweather style is very entertaining, he does things nobody else can do. I would rather watch that a million times than watch two limited guys bang away at eachother. Sure if PAcquiao and Cotto fight its a different story, but for the most part he is way more exciting than most fighters out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Mayweather is a defensive guru, but look at a guy like MArgarito who throws over a thousand ugly punches every fight, I think it looks horrible.
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Originally Posted by Hornfinger
And if cows had wings, they'd be able to fly. Floyd DID retire... and you don't hang on to a mythical title (or any other title) when you're off Dancing With the Stars or fighting Big Show. Now that he's back gracing us with his presence, he can earn the damn title back, just like anybody else would have to do. Even MORE simple.
;)
Exactly, fight with floyd fell through so pacman fought clottey.... wow what a hero!Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputed
After he couldn't get manny in the ring floyd chose the next best fighter he could, shane mosely.
After floyd beats shane, I think Pacman will do a bit of negotiating then retire and the fight will never happen.
You talk pout of your ass...Fact is he retired...Fact is Manny fought everyone and anyone who wanted a fight...Manny has become P4P fighting men bigger then him or on the P4P list....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
You would make a fool of yourself comparing guys Floyd fought and at what stage of their career Vs Manny....And if anything the size differences he had overcome...
Give it up..
It has nothing to do with being a hater or lover of either man...Manny fighting WW fighters would be like Floyd fighting Middleweights....I can't say I would see Floyd signing to Fight Pavlik, or AA when he was there
Wow. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
Even fighting manny pacquiao on or off roids wouldn't be a risk for floyd! Theres no one that can touch the guy at welter.
I see where you are coming from, but Floyd is an aquired taste. I prefer to watch someone like Toney, who has slickness but will still take an opponent into the trenches. I also love to watch Joe Calzaghe, who isn't slick, but brings the fight, has great ouput and is very versatile. Those are two contrasting styles that I really enjoy. I agree that someone like Margarito is ugly, he has a high punch output which should appeal to me, but is so crude and limited, and that actually puts me off.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethMayweather style is very entertaining, he does things nobody else can do. I would rather watch that a million times than watch two limited guys bang away at eachother. Sure if PAcquiao and Cotto fight its a different story, but for the most part he is way more exciting than most fighters out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Mayweather is a defensive guru, but look at a guy like MArgarito who throws over a thousand ugly punches every fight, I think it looks horrible.
Calling Mayweather boring earlier i saw. What fight of those was boring?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI see where you are coming from, but Floyd is an aquired taste. I prefer to watch someone like Toney, who has slickness but will still take an opponent into the trenches. I also love to watch Joe Calzaghe, who isn't slick, but brings the fight, has great ouput and is very versatile. Those are two contrasting styles that I really enjoy. I agree that someone like Margarito is ugly, he has a high punch output which should appeal to me, but is so crude and limited, and that actually puts me off.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethMayweather style is very entertaining, he does things nobody else can do. I would rather watch that a million times than watch two limited guys bang away at eachother. Sure if PAcquiao and Cotto fight its a different story, but for the most part he is way more exciting than most fighters out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Mayweather is a defensive guru, but look at a guy like MArgarito who throws over a thousand ugly punches every fight, I think it looks horrible.
If we picked out his last fights which other one was boring besides Baldomir?
alright, Corley, Bruseles, Gatti, Judah, Baldomir(boring), De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez.
Which of those besides Baldomir was boring?
I pointed out Baldomir and Marquez, but would also add the DLH fight as nothing much was happening there besides potshotting. Even the Hatton fight is tedious. Good to watch the first time, but neither fighters are throwing punches. Not a fun fight to watch really. The other fights do have their moments; especially the Gatti one. If only Floyd would open up earlier against more opponents, but he plays it so safe. That does turn people off.
Dela Hoya and Marquez were dull, albeit impressive, fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyCalling Mayweather boring earlier i saw. What fight of those was boring?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI see where you are coming from, but Floyd is an aquired taste. I prefer to watch someone like Toney, who has slickness but will still take an opponent into the trenches. I also love to watch Joe Calzaghe, who isn't slick, but brings the fight, has great ouput and is very versatile. Those are two contrasting styles that I really enjoy. I agree that someone like Margarito is ugly, he has a high punch output which should appeal to me, but is so crude and limited, and that actually puts me off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
If we picked out his last fights which other one was boring besides Baldomir?
alright, Corley, Bruseles, Gatti, Judah, Baldomir(boring), De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez.
Which of those besides Baldomir was boring?
Reading you folks fall all over yourselves trying to hate on Floyd is very entertaining. He said he's an entertainer, that he has personality beyond his fighting skills. He didn't say that his identity as an entertainer was in his boxing style. You can't even respond to what he says, you have to twist it into something else, and then use it to hate on him.
Go ahead, hate on him all you want. just don't expect to be taken too seriously. You'll be hating on him after he beats Sugar shane and after he beats Manny. He'll do everything you have said he need to do to be considered and ATG and still you will find excuses to consider him less than he is.
Just understand that your credibility fades as you continue your anti-Floyd tea party.
No, I'm not a Floyd NuthaHugga and yes he is sometimes abrasive and arrogant outside the ring. So get over it. Watch him box. All that matters.
Yes and now he's back. pound for pound champ again. Glad we agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
And if cows had wings, they'd be able to fly. Floyd DID retire... and you don't hang on to a mythical title (or any other title) when you're off Dancing With the Stars or fighting Big Show. Now that he's back gracing us with his presence, he can earn the damn title back, just like anybody else would have to do. Even MORE simple.
;)
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Originally Posted by PacstraightleftWow. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
Even fighting manny pacquiao on or off roids wouldn't be a risk for floyd! Theres no one that can touch the guy at welter.
well who is there? Manny 'I refuse a 25 mil drug test and now may retire cuz I don't want to get in the ring with floyd mayweather' Pacquiao?
Glad we agree.
Because he sat smartly (business wise) by and let them all destroy each other, while he pretended retirement and fought smaller guys. Won't do much for his legacy though...Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
Even fighting manny pacquiao on or off roids wouldn't be a risk for floyd! Theres no one that can touch the guy at welter.
Floyd's fighting smaller guys? like shane mosely? Beating mosely won't do anything for his legacy but beating Clottey would?Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherBecause he sat smartly (business wise) by and let them all destroy each other, while he pretended retirement and fought smaller guys. Won't do much for his legacy though...Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
Even fighting manny pacquiao on or off roids wouldn't be a risk for floyd! Theres no one that can touch the guy at welter.
And if he fought pacquiao he's picking on a smaller guy again right?
Hmmm interesting...
Try to keep up with tense..."fought" is past participle. "Sat by" also means a passage of time has occurred. And I didn't mention pacquiao once, but it seems your head is so far up floyd's ass that everything said about him means he's not getting credit so you go into your kevin Costner bodyguard role. Point is while there's isn't probably anyone that can right now other than mosley or pac that can at WW legitimately beat him. The division is no longer as appealing as it once was because they've defeated each other WHILE floyd was playing retired or fighting smaller men.. here you go in no particular order..Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerFloyd's fighting smaller guys? like shane mosely? Beating mosely won't do anything for his legacy but beating Clottey would?Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherBecause he sat smartly (business wise) by and let them all destroy each other, while he pretended retirement and fought smaller guys. Won't do much for his legacy though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
And if he fought pacquiao he's picking on a smaller guy again right?
Hmmm interesting...
SSM v Cotto
Cotto v Margo
Margo v SSM
SSm v collazo
Collazo v berto
Cotto v pacman
Clottey v cotto
Clottey v Pacman
Margo v clottey
Margo v cintron
Williams v quintana
Willams v Margo
all while floyd was doing this:
floyd v hatton (small man, that floyd only fought after collazo exposed him)
floyd v JMM (please, no explanation needed)
Floyd v Baldoblaster (not smaller but def didn't belong in the ring)
floyd v odlh (old out shape fading big name money fight, but certainly wasn't a real threat)
So yeah fighting shane is a great fight, but the fact is he is 38 years old and has been in wars, fighting floyd is win win for shane. Floyd however is in a bad situation because he could have easily fought Cotto, shane, margo, and clottey all before pac even moved up or before they tore each other to shreds. And there wouldn't be any reasonable doubt had floyd won those fights he'd be recognized as best since RJJ..
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Originally Posted by HornfingerYes and now he's back. pound for pound champ again. Glad we agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
And if cows had wings, they'd be able to fly. Floyd DID retire... and you don't hang on to a mythical title (or any other title) when you're off Dancing With the Stars or fighting Big Show. Now that he's back gracing us with his presence, he can earn the damn title back, just like anybody else would have to do. Even MORE simple.
;)
What part of "he can earn the damn title back" did you not understand? There's several degrees of fandom in boxing. There's the knowledgeable, objective fan... there's the obnoxious, somewhat less objective fan... and there's the blind nuthugger. By insisting Floyd can just waltz back into boxing and take something he gave up rights to a long time ago, guess what category YOU fit into?
:cool:
Once again it has always been SHANE'S choice not to fight Mayweather. Not the other way around Shane being 38 when he fights Floyd is on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherTry to keep up with tense..."fought" is past participle. "Sat by" also means a passage of time has occurred. And I didn't mention pacquiao once, but it seems your head is so far up floyd's ass that everything said about him means he's not getting credit so you go into your kevin Costner bodyguard role. Point is while there's isn't probably anyone that can right now other than mosley or pac that can at WW legitimately beat him. The division is no longer as appealing as it once was because they've defeated each other WHILE floyd was playing retired or fighting smaller men.. here you go in no particular order..Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerFloyd's fighting smaller guys? like shane mosely? Beating mosely won't do anything for his legacy but beating Clottey would?Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
And if he fought pacquiao he's picking on a smaller guy again right?
Hmmm interesting...
SSM v Cotto
Cotto v Margo
Margo v SSM
SSm v collazo
Collazo v berto
Cotto v pacman
Clottey v cotto
Clottey v Pacman
Margo v clottey
Margo v cintron
Williams v quintana
Willams v Margo
all while floyd was doing this:
floyd v hatton (small man, that floyd only fought after collazo exposed him)
floyd v JMM (please, no explanation needed)
Floyd v Baldoblaster (not smaller but def didn't belong in the ring)
floyd v odlh (old out shape fading big name money fight, but certainly wasn't a real threat)
So yeah fighting shane is a great fight, but the fact is he is 38 years old and has been in wars, fighting floyd is win win for shane. Floyd however is in a bad situation because he could have easily fought Cotto, shane, margo, and clottey all before pac even moved up or before they tore each other to shreds. And there wouldn't be any reasonable doubt had floyd won those fights he'd be recognized as best since RJJ..
And did you really just say Oscar was Out of Shape when he fought Mayweather?
Seriously?
Polly can have a cracker for that recycled nonsense....Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyOnce again it has always been SHANE'S choice not to fight Mayweather. Not the other way around Shane being 38 when he fights Floyd is on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherTry to keep up with tense..."fought" is past participle. "Sat by" also means a passage of time has occurred. And I didn't mention pacquiao once, but it seems your head is so far up floyd's ass that everything said about him means he's not getting credit so you go into your kevin Costner bodyguard role. Point is while there's isn't probably anyone that can right now other than mosley or pac that can at WW legitimately beat him. The division is no longer as appealing as it once was because they've defeated each other WHILE floyd was playing retired or fighting smaller men.. here you go in no particular order..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfinger
SSM v Cotto
Cotto v Margo
Margo v SSM
SSm v collazo
Collazo v berto
Cotto v pacman
Clottey v cotto
Clottey v Pacman
Margo v clottey
Margo v cintron
Williams v quintana
Willams v Margo
all while floyd was doing this:
floyd v hatton (small man, that floyd only fought after collazo exposed him)
floyd v JMM (please, no explanation needed)
Floyd v Baldoblaster (not smaller but def didn't belong in the ring)
floyd v odlh (old out shape fading big name money fight, but certainly wasn't a real threat)
So yeah fighting shane is a great fight, but the fact is he is 38 years old and has been in wars, fighting floyd is win win for shane. Floyd however is in a bad situation because he could have easily fought Cotto, shane, margo, and clottey all before pac even moved up or before they tore each other to shreds. And there wouldn't be any reasonable doubt had floyd won those fights he'd be recognized as best since RJJ..
And did you really just say Oscar was Out of Shape when he fought Mayweather?
Seriously?
and yeah oscar wasn't in shape..he was old and fading. his optimum weight was 147...so by the the time floyd got to him he was too old to be effective at 154 and too fat to get down to 147..
Floyd fanboys just don't get it. Many of us boxing fans are only too willing to give Floyd his just dues. I've gone on record many times as saying that Floyd was awesome at the lower weights. His fight with Diego Corrales is probably one of his most impressive showings of all time... his victory over Zab Judah was equally as impressive (not to mention that I was cheering like crazy for Floyd).
But no... the fanboys get their panties all ruffled when I and others DARE mention that Floyd might somewhat less deserving at welterweight. How DARE we speak against their god? The guy takes a self-imposed vacation from the sport, and when he does come back... he takes on the undersized Juan Manuel Marquez. And we're supposed to bow at his feet and give him his mythical p4p title back? I don't THINK SO.
So guys... get a grip. No one is bashing Floyd 'cause we hate him. But you guys are sure making a good case for the hate. I was cheering for Mosley already. Now I'm going to root for Shane like it was Mother Theresa kicking Saddam Hussein's ass.
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherPolly can have a cracker for that recycled nonsense....Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyOnce again it has always been SHANE'S choice not to fight Mayweather. Not the other way around Shane being 38 when he fights Floyd is on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
And did you really just say Oscar was Out of Shape when he fought Mayweather?
Seriously?
and yeah oscar wasn't in shape..he was old and fading. his optimum weight was 147...so by the the time floyd got to him he was too old to be effective at 154 and too fat to get down to 147..
Oscar hadn't fought at 147 in around 5 years before he came up against Mayweather and was in great shape for that fight.
Oscar was the one whom picked the weight class, the gloves, the ring, it was his promotion.
If you think Oscar was out of shape and spent at 154 when he fought Mayweather then you're extremely reaching. Why would Oscar have been better prepared at 147 when he hadn't fought there in 5 years and had already shown he could fight at 154 effectively not to mention his last performance being a domination of Ricardo Mayorga where he dropped him violently in the first round.
Yes Oscar looked completely spent before the Mayweather fight?
Oscar only started looking bad when after that he tried to move back down to 147 and he looked absolutely crap against Steve Forbes and then fought Pacquiao who finished off what was left.
The last fight Oscar was live in was the Floyd fight where he had every advantage over Floyd like I said, ring, promotion, gloves, and weight class not to mention Oscar's title.
So if you think Oscar at 154 against Mayweather was just an out of shape shell you'll reaching greatly to take credit away from that victory.
People that don't give Mayweather enough credit are called 'haters' yet people that try to give him too much credit are called 'nuthuggers'.
In my opinion trying to insinuate that Oscar was spent and out of shape shell of himself in their 154 pound matchup is a 'hater' comment. He should get full credit for that win thats the last time we saw a live Oscar De La Hoya before he tried moving down and looked like crap. Up until that point the only time he looked bad was at 160 when he WAS out of shape against Sturm.
Talking about not giving credit and reaching...Oscar looked out of shape against Sturm because he was getting his ass whooped and underestimated a bigger "lesser" opponent. Nevertheless Oscar was still fighting too high and just trying to make money at that point. Same with the fights against Mayorga ( who hadn't fought in nearly a year and was ruined by Tito) everyone knows that was just a fight set up to promote oscar as being "legit" for floyd. Which also brings me to my next point. No one blames Floyd for fighting oscar, because anyone that could make weight against oscar would cash in, but oscar was basically 1-3, (2-2) if you count the bs decision he got over Sturm, before he faced floyd. The same with the fight against Forbes it was nothing more than a bs set up fight to promote oscar to the public as being "legit" for Pacquioa because the last time he fought he lost.Quote:
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherPolly can have a cracker for that recycled nonsense....Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
and yeah oscar wasn't in shape..he was old and fading. his optimum weight was 147...so by the the time floyd got to him he was too old to be effective at 154 and too fat to get down to 147..
Oscar hadn't fought at 147 in around 5 years before he came up against Mayweather and was in great shape for that fight.
Oscar was the one whom picked the weight class, the gloves, the ring, it was his promotion.
If you think Oscar was out of shape and spent at 154 when he fought Mayweather then you're extremely reaching. Why would Oscar have been better prepared at 147 when he hadn't fought there in 5 years and had already shown he could fight at 154 effectively not to mention his last performance being a domination of Ricardo Mayorga where he dropped him violently in the first round.
Yes Oscar looked completely spent before the Mayweather fight?
Oscar only started looking bad when after that he tried to move back down to 147 and he looked absolutely crap against Steve Forbes and then fought Pacquiao who finished off what was left.
The last fight Oscar was live in was the Floyd fight where he had every advantage over Floyd like I said, ring, promotion, gloves, and weight class not to mention Oscar's title.
So if you think Oscar at 154 against Mayweather was just an out of shape shell you'll reaching greatly to take credit away from that victory.
People that don't give Mayweather enough credit are called 'haters' yet people that try to give him too much credit are called 'nuthuggers'.
In my opinion trying to insinuate that Oscar was spent and out of shape shell of himself in their 154 pound matchup is a 'hater' comment. He should get full credit for that win thats the last time we saw a live Oscar De La Hoya before he tried moving down and looked like crap. Up until that point the only time he looked bad was at 160 when he WAS out of shape against Sturm.
Floyd gets all credit for being a very smart boxer/businessman. all credit since moving up against gatti, judah, mitchell, baldomir... but it leaves a lot of questions when there was cotto, margarito, williams, or mosley (then). Because there is no justification in fighting baldomir, and please with the he was lineal champ because according to floyd he doesn't fight for belts because they only collect dust...and that fight wasn't PPV whereas the other three surely would have been, so money certainly wasn't the reason. Isn't that clear that floyd handpicked the easiest opponent at WW that he could find?
Floyd Mayweather confidence is super duper high. If he wins then proceed to the fight what fans are waiting. Well, let them first settle it inside the ring with Mosley :D
Pac man can fight Marg, Foreman or anyone else from the Arum stable. Floyd could fight GBP stable but everyone wants to see them fight each other, should Floyd beat Shane of course.
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Originally Posted by HornfingerYes and now he's back. pound for pound champ again. Glad we agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
What part of "he can earn the damn title back" did you not understand? There's several degrees of fandom in boxing. There's the knowledgeable, objective fan... there's the obnoxious, somewhat less objective fan... and there's the blind nuthugger. By insisting Floyd can just waltz back into boxing and take something he gave up rights to a long time ago, guess what category YOU fit into?
:cool:
So fighting clottey makes you pound for pound but fighting shane mosely means jack shit?
Pac didn't earn it, he got it by default, so as far as I'm concerned mayweather is still the best in the sport.
Hold on.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherTry to keep up with tense..."fought" is past participle. "Sat by" also means a passage of time has occurred. And I didn't mention pacquiao once, but it seems your head is so far up floyd's ass that everything said about him means he's not getting credit so you go into your kevin Costner bodyguard role. Point is while there's isn't probably anyone that can right now other than mosley or pac that can at WW legitimately beat him. The division is no longer as appealing as it once was because they've defeated each other WHILE floyd was playing retired or fighting smaller men.. here you go in no particular order..Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerFloyd's fighting smaller guys? like shane mosely? Beating mosely won't do anything for his legacy but beating Clottey would?Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
And if he fought pacquiao he's picking on a smaller guy again right?
Hmmm interesting...
SSM v Cotto
Cotto v Margo
Margo v SSM
SSm v collazo
Collazo v berto
Cotto v pacman
Clottey v cotto
Clottey v Pacman
Margo v clottey
Margo v cintron
Williams v quintana
Willams v Margo
all while floyd was doing this:
floyd v hatton (small man, that floyd only fought after collazo exposed him)
floyd v JMM (please, no explanation needed)
Floyd v Baldoblaster (not smaller but def didn't belong in the ring)
floyd v odlh (old out shape fading big name money fight, but certainly wasn't a real threat)
So yeah fighting shane is a great fight, but the fact is he is 38 years old and has been in wars, fighting floyd is win win for shane. Floyd however is in a bad situation because he could have easily fought Cotto, shane, margo, and clottey all before pac even moved up or before they tore each other to shreds. And there wouldn't be any reasonable doubt had floyd won those fights he'd be recognized as best since RJJ..
Pac vs DLH are you telling me DLH was a worthy opponant that night? at least against floyd he threw some punches.
Pac vs hatton. Same as the above. Hatton was no where near what he was before the floyd fight.
Pac vs cotto Cotto has been shot scince the margarito fight
Pac vs clottey No explination needed. About as meaningful as floyd vs marquesz.
Baldomir didn't belong in the ring? despite beating judah and having the title?
No need for floyd to fight collazo, hatton beat him then floyd beat hatton and now floyd is fighting shane who also beat collazo
No need to fight margartio shane already beat him oooh and look who floyd's fighting next...
No need to fight clottey the guy is a league bellow, he's not even a contender..
Paul Williams has moved up a weight class (why ask the questions of mayweather? ask yourself why doesn't pac fight him?)
Floyd would be fighting pac but someone didn't want to take a drug test for one reason or another.
All the above in consideration Floyd is still the man.
I see what your saying about fighting those guys earlier, and of course bringing mosely's age into it. But personally I think there will always be something to knit pick at, and you can do that with any fighter or any fighters opponant.