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I just ready else where - no link was provided so hopefully its BS, but PBF wants 60-40 split after hearing about PAC accepting 14 day cut off...
I think it needs to be 14 day Drug Testing and 60-40 going to the winner or just 50/50
This worries me big time!
Shitty news if true. If they're both so insistent on getting the lion's share, why not do a 40/40 split with the winner getting the final 20%? I know it'll never happen, but still.
Whats even worse is that the MAY camp are comparing the numbers between PBF/SSM and PAC/CLOT -- Yea thats a fair assessment...Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
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Originally Posted by cnote111Whats even worse is that the MAY camp are comparing the numbers between PBF/SSM and PAC/CLOT -- Yea thats a fair assessment...Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
same could be said when people were bringing up the numbers from Mayweather/Marquez to the Pacquiao/Cotto fight, combine both their last two fights and Mayweather has more PPV buys than Pacquiao, not that complicated
I was saying what the PBF camp was saying not random people on forums that were arguing their position.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesQuote:
Originally Posted by cnote111Whats even worse is that the MAY camp are comparing the numbers between PBF/SSM and PAC/CLOT -- Yea thats a fair assessment...Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
same could be said when people were bringing up the numbers from Mayweather/Marquez to the Pacquiao/Cotto fight, combine both their last two fights and Mayweather has more PPV buys than Pacquiao, not that complicated
I personally don't care about PPV numbers once everything is boiled down, the scenarios are ever-changing, but BOTH FIGHTERS HAVE PAID THERE DUES AND HAVE EARNED THE TOP SPOT IN NEGOTIATIONS EQUALLY...
This fight needs to be 50/50
EL - You can't possibly think this fights needs to go 60-40 PBF do you???
I would say if anyone were to argue for a bigger share it would be Floyd. No doubt his last four fights combined have done far more PPV sales than Pac mans. Plus the fact that Floyd is undefeated. But I would just rather see a 60 to the winner/40 to the loser type deal.. but we all know that isn't gunna happen.
Where is the link to PBF's camp saying this? Where did you read this? If you can't find a link, at least say where so we can assess the credibility?Quote:
Originally Posted by cnote111I was saying what the PBF camp was saying not random people on forums that were arguing their position.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralessame could be said when people were bringing up the numbers from Mayweather/Marquez to the Pacquiao/Cotto fight, combine both their last two fights and Mayweather has more PPV buys than Pacquiao, not that complicatedQuote:
Originally Posted by cnote111Whats even worse is that the MAY camp are comparing the numbers between PBF/SSM and PAC/CLOT -- Yea thats a fair assessment...Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I personally don't care about PPV numbers once everything is boiled down, the scenarios are ever-changing, but BOTH FIGHTERS HAVE PAID THERE DUES AND HAVE EARNED THE TOP SPOT IN NEGOTIATIONS EQUALLY...
This fight needs to be 50/50
EL - You can't possibly think this fights needs to go 60-40 PBF do you???
no i don't think it should be 60-40 in favor of anyone, but Jaz basically is saying the same thing i was thinking, both of your posts are just hearsay you have no links nor evidence to back them up, anyone can just say, "i heard that Pacquiao isn't taking the fight unless Floyd agrees to take laxatives before the fight", if there isn't any truth to it who gives a shit?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinWhere is the link to PBF's camp saying this? Where did you read this? If you can't find a link, at least say where so we can assess the credibility?Quote:
Originally Posted by cnote111I was saying what the PBF camp was saying not random people on forums that were arguing their position.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralessame could be said when people were bringing up the numbers from Mayweather/Marquez to the Pacquiao/Cotto fight, combine both their last two fights and Mayweather has more PPV buys than Pacquiao, not that complicatedQuote:
Originally Posted by cnote111Whats even worse is that the MAY camp are comparing the numbers between PBF/SSM and PAC/CLOT -- Yea thats a fair assessment...Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I personally don't care about PPV numbers once everything is boiled down, the scenarios are ever-changing, but BOTH FIGHTERS HAVE PAID THERE DUES AND HAVE EARNED THE TOP SPOT IN NEGOTIATIONS EQUALLY...
This fight needs to be 50/50
EL - You can't possibly think this fights needs to go 60-40 PBF do you???
Remind me again why Pacquiao dumb ass didn't accept the 14 day cut off and the 50-50 split the first time?
I think it should be 50-50 and that this shouldn't even be broughten up until that fight comes to pass, but should anyone deserve the lions share its Floyd, he makes more money for the sport.
I think we probably need to accept that this fight will possibly never happen.
On the one side you have Pac with his "beliefs" about drug testing, and on the other you have PBF with an unbeaten record and a huge ego. Not really a match made in heaven.
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Originally Posted by FTMatty
if they can't compromise they have basically given us all the big v sign - am confident it will happen
and what are you doing out if bed a this unearthly hour ??
All i can say is proof would help this thread be more interesting, like some said ill believe it when i see a link to the source, otherwise to me its likely nothing more than just a rumour.
Sorry guys for the delay on the link....
I tend to believe it is a Half Truth, but none the less "IF" its true i think it sucks.
Mayweather eyes bigger purse than Pacman | The Philippine Star >> News >> Sports
Neither fighter deserves more then the other...Neither man will make as much against anyone else./...
The whole PPV buy numbers talk is a bunch of shit....PBF had more this fight Pac more that fight blah blah blah....
Shut the fuck up and fight....
Floyd wants the lions share fuck him and go fight someone else when the IRS is taking your shit don't fucking cry and contrary to popular belief he is not even in the top 20 P4P All time regardless of how many divisions he won titles in....
Pacquiao needs to either take the blood test or tell Floyd to fuck off and move on...Again he can cry later on how he did not get what he deserves....Or how it hurt his legacy.....
In fact this fight seems more important for Floyd to keep talking about then coming up with ways to complicate things more then Manny....Pacquiaos camp (Mostly Roach) replies to whatever Floyd puts out there....
I have lost interest in this shit and that is exactly what it has become SHIT!!!!!!
Both camps should be ashamed of the way this has all gone about and ashamed about how the whole back and fourth finger pointing...
Either fight or don't boys period!!!!
Floyd can care less about how clean boxing is FACT!!!!!!!
Manny can care less about the blood test FACT!!!!
Pacquiao is not from some jungle when he thinks mirrors steal his soul so the blood excuses are shit!!!!!
Floyd made his real intent on why he wants the test clear when he said "For a man to fight as many guys in as many divisions and move up in weight as fast as Pacquiao makeme think he is on something"
But if Floyd did it then he would just be telling the public how good he is.....
The two of them should find a new fucking career and leave the sport to guys who just want to fight!!!!!!
The only person who deserves blame for this bullshiit is clearly without a doubt Pacquiao. He wants a 14 day cut off. As well as a 50-50 split. Isn't that what was offered a couple of months ago? Why the fukk didn't he take it?
What ???!!!! No way !! A guy who's nickname is "money" is asking for more money than his opponet........is the sky still blue too ?? Mayweather has done this type of stuff since he's been born probably now all of the sudden the pac camp is surprised ?? Ok ok how bout we look at both guys 1rst, 12th, and 20th fights add up the numbers from those divide them by six, then do a coin flip, determine both guy's favorite color and decide it that way. Geeezuss of course floyd wants and will probably get more money, i agree with above he should have taken the 50/50 when it was offerred the first time.
Sky is green, homie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
A couple of 24/7's and i bet some people really could be convinced of that !! I blame both guys really, but c'mon pac buy the caddilac when it's on sale, don't bitch when the coupon expires and now all of the sudden you want one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseSky is green, homie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
Pacquiao is playing fukking games. Mayweather clearly stated before both there previous fights happened that he would demand a bigger slice if his PPV did better. His PPV did better. Why is Pac and his idiot groupies acting surprised? Why the fukk Pac all of a sudden want 50-50 and 14 days now when he didn't want it months ago? The answer is fukking obvious. He's cashing out. He's decided to take his beating from Floyd and 40 million plus and call it a career. Which is why he's decided to agree to the terms. He couldn't do it months ago cuz his system was polluted with all kinds of chemical enchancers. Now that months have gone by he's confident his system is clean and will past any drug and blood tests. The fear of giving blood has mysterious disapperared as well. How can people not see what is clearly clear as day, is beyond me? It was well thought out plan. To bad Mayweather has reminded him who's in charge. And has changed things. Pac needs to play ball. Take is 40% and make the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarA couple of 24/7's and i bet some people really could be convinced of that !! I blame both guys really, but c'mon pac buy the caddilac when it's on sale, don't bitch when the coupon expires and now all of the sudden you want one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseSky is green, homie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
They should get past their ego's and just get the fight made otherwise they will waste one of the most anticipated fights in history.
Problem for Pacquiao is more fear than ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Amen brothaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Excuses are for bitches i'd rather just watch the super six 6 tournament thats the only hope we have. I wonder who would be champ if welterweight did the same... Ha mayweather would have 1000 excuses why not 2 return. Great talent but thinks like a business man not a warrior screw floyd and pac it'll be so many good fights this year. People act like they are gods its more to the sport beside them 2
Pac won't fight for 60/40 that is for certain, nor should he. It's 50/50 and a 14 day cut off or no fight will occur. I still think PBF is trying everything he can to avoid this fight.
I would love to watch PBF put a beating on him (and he will), but I cannot believe that Manny Pacquiao is scared of Floyd Mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseProblem for Pacquiao is more fear than ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Why stop there? Why not just compare the career totals? It's just plain stupid! Neither man can do the big mythical numbers alone. I hope they let the promoters figure it out rather than letting the fans get all worked up about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralessame could be said when people were bringing up the numbers from Mayweather/Marquez to the Pacquiao/Cotto fight, combine both their last two fights and Mayweather has more PPV buys than Pacquiao, not that complicatedQuote:
Originally Posted by cnote111Whats even worse is that the MAY camp are comparing the numbers between PBF/SSM and PAC/CLOT -- Yea thats a fair assessment...Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Pacquiao is trying to play the "pick me cause this guy is a jerk" card. Trying to over exaggerate things that have happened in boxing forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemisePacquiao is playing fukking games. Mayweather clearly stated before both there previous fights happened that he would demand a bigger slice if his PPV did better. His PPV did better. Why is Pac and his idiot groupies acting surprised? Why the fukk Pac all of a sudden want 50-50 and 14 days now when he didn't want it months ago? The answer is fukking obvious. He's cashing out. He's decided to take his beating from Floyd and 40 million plus and call it a career. Which is why he's decided to agree to the terms. He couldn't do it months ago cuz his system was polluted with all kinds of chemical enchancers. Now that months have gone by he's confident his system is clean and will past any drug and blood tests. The fear of giving blood has mysterious disapperared as well. How can people not see what is clearly clear as day, is beyond me? It was well thought out plan. To bad Mayweather has reminded him who's in charge. And has changed things. Pac needs to play ball. Take is 40% and make the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarA couple of 24/7's and i bet some people really could be convinced of that !! I blame both guys really, but c'mon pac buy the caddilac when it's on sale, don't bitch when the coupon expires and now all of the sudden you want one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseSky is green, homie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
"OH MY GOD HE WANTS A BIGGER SHARE OF THE PURSE!?!? HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN! FANS LOVE ME IT SHOULD BE 50/50"
"OH MY GOD HE WANTS RANDOM DRUG TESTS!! I DONT WANT IT RANDOM!!"
See Pacquiao acts like he is the difference where everyone else says yes to.
Pacquiao is the only one preventing this fight from happening. Mayweather has put two things on the table. 60/40, and Random Drug Test.
If Pacquiao really wanted to fight Mayweather he'd say yes on both accounts. If the roles were reversed and Mayweather was saying no to a 60-40 split and random drug testing, they'd say Mayweather is ducking Pacquiao and potentially on steroids. But since its Mayweather asking and Pacquiao not wanting to comply, as always it will be Mayweather's fault if the fight doesn't happen.
When Oscar was the PPV main attraction Mayweather went up to his weight class, and took lesser pay, under his promotion, with his gloves, in his ring.
Mayweather at this point has earned the fight to ask for 60-40 and whether people like it or not he has been a bigger PPV draw then Pacquiao.
Tell pacquiao to stop trying to hide and make excuses and blame Mayweather for him not wanting to fight him, and just fight him!
You mean the way it was offered months ago and he refused, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
I think you got it reversedQuote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
It should be 50:50 and Pac should take the tests. Both Floyd and Manny are the biggest twats in boxing today. Be men and split it or do what CFH suggested and go 40:40 with the better man taking the rest.
Like Daxx, I am actually bored with this shit too. Let Manny go and become a sleazy politician and Floyd a bankrupt bore with a potty mouth for all I care. The fight would be nice, but there is far more to boxing than these two.
I've read several articles saying that pacman will even go farther than 14 days, just as long as they don't test him on the day of the fight, before the fight. Still will get tested afterwards. But I'm telling you right now. Floyd will not let this fight happen. This should be a 50/50 split. Mark my words...Floyd will find a way out of this. He's already saying, he wants testing done even on the day of the fight...even when the last test done for the Mosley fight was 18 days out. I'm not optimistic here. Pacman has taken the last hurdle down and now Floyd is putting more back up. I'm sure that even if Pacman agreed to everything else,
these are all rumors there is no official statements coming from Mayweather, so don't get why anyone is getting worked up over thisQuote:
Originally Posted by 15rounder
LOL Majesty you are un-fucking-real. I almost can't believe you're making the case that Pacquiao should just accept 60-40 no questions asked. WTF? Neither of these can fight without someone putting the other's name in the sentence, it's OBVIOUS that this fight is 50-50. That's why Floyd accepted it the first time.
But nope, JUST FIGHT HIM Majesty says. Fuck I understand the gripes over his refusal of testing, but you act as if he's lucky to even be offered 60-40 in the first place. I can't believe I still read your posts but at the same time I'm glad I do.
I think they should both fight and I hope they do but I wouldn't want to see Pacquiao get only 40% if Mayweather insists on that then it's not happening.
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
I understand why Floyd might be a little concerned over Pac having fought in as many divisions as he has. It's also the fact that Pac was stopped earlier in his career at a much lower weight than he has become accustomed to but now takes harder shots off much bigger fighters. I'm not ignorant though who knows what pacs natural weight is he could have been killing himself to boil down when he first started out. Will never know.
For me it's all about Floyds ego but i do believe the fight will happen fans all round the world are crying out for it. Genuine no1 and no2 P4P fighters facing each other. Alot of us might never see that again.
I pick Floyd to win Pac is better offensively but Floyd is a defensive master and he can attack when it suits him. Pac does sometime have a tendancy to charge in and Floyd can pick him off. I think it'll be a very tactical fight rather than an all out war but it'll be a huge even no doubt aout it. Could see Floyd caught and even go down but i think he'll regroup and manage to keep pac off him to take the win.
There's too much money to be made for each fighter regardless of the split for the fight not to happen.
I hope it's sorted soon so i can book my flight! :)
I wanna fight on the oval!
Nup! I wanna fight at the shops!
I wanna fight at lunch!
Nup! I wanna fight at recess!
Floyd does desserve more he is a bigger ppv star if not draw.
Considering Pacqauio has fought DLH, Cotto, Hatton and Clottey in succession i do not see him avoiding anyone. I see PBF taking a long lay off, fighting a 38 year old inactive champion and doing his best to have the negotiations go all his own way. It takes two to tango. Just make the fight and settle the ego issue in the ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyI think you got it reversedQuote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
What a stupid issue to haggle over!! That's one thing that ROYALLY pisses me off about boxing, and about Mayweather in particular (although by no means is he the first, or the last, to use percentages as an ego trip). What the fukk is the difference whether it's 60-40 or 50-50?? Is Floyd going to go bankrupt because he settles for 50% of the purse? And please... NONE of us here know what it's like to earn millions upon millions of dollars. So spare me your silly arguments about how Floyd really NEEDS the money. He doesn't. Listen, if the jackass wants to fight Pacquiao and settle the p4p issue once and for all... IN THE RING, the way it should be... then take the 50% and shut the fukk up.
Ok, Floyd fans... let the counter-arguments begin.
:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
- the dif between 60% and 50% in this fight could equal 5 million or more...thats dollars. i dont care how much money you got, that kinda cash is worth haggling for.
- your last sentence could easily be applied to pacman. Just replace the "then take the 50% and shut the fukk up" to "just take the 40% and shut the fukk up" or replace with "just take the blood test and shut the fukk up"
i mean honestly 5 months ago didnt manny turn down 14 day cutt off for testing and 50:50 split? now he wants the 14 days and 50 50. if true, this is getting annoying.