Was Paquiao/Mosley a success?

I am sure we are going to have that horrid, old Arum say "Well this fight did 200 billion PPV's and we are all very happy". He will then walk away whilst his trousers fall down from the weight of all the pieces of gold in his pocket.

Having said that though, we were all critical of this fight being made. Sure, most of us wanted Mosley to put Manny through his paces, but ultimately the fight was a massive stinkfest. There was little demand after Mosley's recent run of form, it was cynical matchmaking at its best.

So financially speaking it was probably a success, but in terms of Manny's rep and boxing enjoyment it was pile of crap.

What do you guys think, success or a manipulative bore?

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Originally Posted by miles

I am sure we are going to have that horrid, old Arum say "Well this fight did 200 billions PPV's and we are all very happy". He will then walk away whilst his trousers fall down from the weight of all the pieces of gold in his pocket.

Having said that though, we were all critical of this fight being made. Sure, most of us wanted Mosley to put Manny through his paces, but ultimately the fight was a massive stinkfest. There was little demand after Mosley's recent run of form, it was cynical matchmaking at its best.

So financially speaking it was probably a success, but in terms of Manny's rep and boxing enjoyment it was pile of crap.

What do you guys think, success or a manipulative bore?

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Come on Miles tell us how you really feel ! haha

Simply put, the fight sucked. It sucked just about as much as the Clottey fight, worse I think, since I had higher offensive hopes for Mosley than I did from Clottey.

Mosley basically got knocked down and hurt, got scared, and went into survival mode.

Pacquaio looked a little underwhelming tonight too. Not quite up to his usual tremendous self.

Abysmal fight really...

It was a boring success, but at least the paying fans got to see Arce Vs Vasquez, which was pretty entertaining for midget boxing. :p The crowd looked huge.

PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me;D

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Originally Posted by Pavlik

PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me;D

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For me his fights are typically a success (even if the result has upset me), but it needs Pac to show something great and/or his opponents to show something. At least against Clottey we got to see his combination punching, this was really much more akin to Barrera/Pac 2 which was his last truly stinky fight. And at least Clottey was coming in off a fairly decent showing against Cotto.

This was far more opportunistic and the fight itself quite abysmal.

[scratching head]

I'm not sure how this gets laid at Manny's feet at all. Floyd won't fight him, Shane was, ahem, a little shy, what's he to do?

I mean who else should he have fought? What could he really have done given the way Shane was trying to go the distance?

Now was it a great night for the sport? Hell the Vasquez-Arce fight was an excellent fight and the Pavlik fight was two competent if unexciting guys. So it was a decent card anyway I thought.

Certainly not a Don King card from the early 1990's, but waddya gonna do?

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Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

[scratching head]

I'm not sure how this gets laid at Manny's feet at all. Floyd won't fight him, Shane was, ahem, a little shy, what's he to do?

I mean who else should he have fought? What could he really have done given the way Shane was trying to go the distance?

Now was it a great night for the sport? Hell the Vasquez-Arce fight was an excellent fight and the Pavlik fight was two competent if unexciting guys. So it was a decent card anyway I thought.

Certainly not a Don King card from the early 1990's, but waddya gonna do?

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The only way for it to be a success was for the fight to be an entertaining one. Either Manny wins convincingly or else Mosley puts up a solid showing to counter it, either way it needs to be a fight where two guys are looking to try to win. On that count this was a big fail. I think Clottey might have hurt Manny more than Shane did tonight. :-\

It was just a very poor fight and when you put it into the context of the fight before....well it just looks even worse. Vasquez/Arce was awesome. The easy winner of the evening.

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Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

[scratching head]

I'm not sure how this gets laid at Manny's feet at all. Floyd won't fight him, Shane was, ahem, a little shy, what's he to do?

I mean who else should he have fought? What could he really have done given the way Shane was trying to go the distance?

Now was it a great night for the sport? Hell the Vasquez-Arce fight was an excellent fight and the Pavlik fight was two competent if unexciting guys. So it was a decent card anyway I thought.

Certainly not a Don King card from the early 1990's, but waddya gonna do?

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The only way for it to be a success was for the fight to be an entertaining one. Either Manny wins convincingly or else Mosley puts up a solid showing to counter it, either way it needs to be a fight where two guys are looking to try to win. On that count this was a big fail. I think Clottey might have hurt Manny more than Shane did tonight. :-\

It was just a very poor fight and when you put it into the context of the fight before....well it just looks even worse. Vasquez/Arce was awesome. The easy winner of the evening.

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LOL. OUCH on the bold!

I find even the Manny we saw tonight entertaining. He wasn't anywhere close to the same vicinty as his best, but his passion was all there. My view is in part motivated by fear. This sport is the merest shell of the one I grew up with in terms of available talent. In 2-3 years who is there really? Amir Kahn? Andre Ward? Jose Benavidez? I'm afraid I am holding on to the last vestage...God do I hope I'm wrong.

Seriously, I think they could of taken mosley out of the fight in the 6th round, ran into the back and found Arce and he would of come out and made a better fight against pac.

It sucked in other words. But we all knew it would, it was just that last bit of hope that mosley had something left. Its why people keep paying to watch roy jones...just hoping to see 1 ounce of what he used to be.

All in all I think the thread is a no brainer. I guess I was just disheartened to see Mosley so timid and gunshy, but I guess we already knew that he had become like this after the last two fights. The Margarito showing really was the last hurrah. This fight was never intended to be anything more than what it was. Both fighters used their names and got a massive payday.

I don't begrudge Mosley a final payday, but just wish that he was able to go out on his shield a little more. In 12 rounds he barely opened up at all. I have never seen Mosley on his bicycle like that, round after round. I guess it shows how far he has slipped. He still has a good brain and was doing the right things to nullify Pac, but you expect that of an experienced fighter.

A Mosley at 32 against a Manny of 32 is a much better fight. As it stands Mosley at 39 against a Pac of 32 was never likely to be a success. Only the Arum and the fighters can be truly content with what we saw.

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All in all I think the thread is a no brainer. I guess I was just disheartened to see Mosley so timid and gunshy, but I guess we already knew that he had become like this after the last two fights. The Margarito showing really was the last hurrah. This fight was never intended to be anything more than what it was. Both fighters used their names and got a massive payday.

I don't begrudge Mosley a final payday, but just wish that he was able to go out on his shield a little more. In 12 rounds he barely opened up at all. I have never seen Mosley on his bicycle like that, round after round. I guess it shows how far he has slipped. He still has a good brain and was doing the right things to nullify Pac, but you expect that of an experienced fighter.

A Mosley at 32 against a Manny of 32 is a much better fight. As it stands Mosley at 39 against a Pac of 32 was never likely to be a success. Only the Arum and the fighters can be truly content with what we saw.

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Team Pac cant be wise after the event. They gave this opportunity to Shane knowing full well the old man couldnt fight anymore. He couldnt even beat a TV reality star in his last fight. They expect him to walk straight onto Mannys punches just to make the Flip look good? Nope Shane just came to pick up his paycheque and gave a massive farewell "up yours" to the gyus who gave him this opportunity that he didnt deserve.

Shane has 2 long decades of wars behind him and wasnt going to add further miles to his clock just to make it an exciting fight. The crowd were booing and even left the arena during the fight. The whole point of teh fight for Pac was to do summat Floyd couldnt do which was stop Shane. Pac didnt do that and even had to take a count himself so in that respect it was mission accomplished for Shane. His tactics didnt suggest he ever wanted to do anymore than that and it appeared he could make Pac miss effortlessly.

Floyd must be licking his lips at the prospect but must be hoping Marquez doesnt beat him to it.

It will certainly alter a lot of peoples thoughts on Floyd/Manny. My mind is definitely flip flopping. Pac didn't look particularly good against a man who fought pretty scared from the 3rd onwards. Now if Manny can't go after an old Mosley who is not known for fighting so cautiously, couldn't nail a Cotto who decided to stick and move, then how is he going to do it against Floyd? Floyd is the master of this kind of thing.

Pac/Cotto had me thinking he had all the tools, but what I have seen since has calmed me down somewhat. If there is anything to make Floyd sign the fight then it is this one. And I don't believe for a minute that Pac looked bad just to lure Floyd in and dazzle him when they meet. Manny might be losing a step himself.

That had to be one the the greatest examples of Gun Shy I've ever seen. Dreadful. Was really willing Manny to smoke him in the end. Movement takes away Manny's effectiveness almost altogether though and he just couldn't get off well enough.

This fight was a lot like the 2nd Barrera fight in that the guy infront of him was making an art form out of not engaging. I am starting t ponder the thought of a third Marquez fight, just so I can see that beautiful left-uppercut come into play. No one else uses it ???

Also, I'm more convinced now that Floyd would beat Manny if they fought.

Not the only flogging Mosley took today, hes also taking one twitter apparently. Everyone disappointed in his performance and saying he robbed them of their money...which I dont really disagree with. All we asked was that he try, he didnt even look like he wanted to win.

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Originally Posted by Snakey

Not the only flogging Mosley took today, hes also taking one twitter apparently. Everyone disappointed in his performance and saying he robbed them of their money...which I dont really disagree with. All we asked was that he try, he didnt even look like he wanted to win.

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Yeah, Mosley is to blame for not fighting. But at the same time Pac, Roach and Arum deserve to roast in the fiery cauldrons of hell for once again making a fight with someone who hasn't really earned it. The evidence was there for us all to see, but they made the fight regardless. Arum still regards this fight as a success, hopefully he will expire soon.

the fight was disgrace! moseley made me sick when he kept touching gloes with pac and hugging him at the end. he came to pick up a check and that was it..he should retire and manny should fight a decent opponent for once in his life. floyd and manny are as bad as each other for not fighting each other

Manny was dogshit!
Mayweather would of stoppedmanny

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Originally Posted by Pavlik

PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me;D

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Do you even watch the fight or do you just gaze into the eyes of your Pac cabbage patch doll and.....yha you know the rest.


All Pactards to is gauge everything in comparison to Floyd.....little insecure I take it or it wouldn't have been the first thing out of your mouth. Pac loses to Floyd accept it and be done and go back to Pac Land sites

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Originally Posted by miles

I am sure we are going to have that horrid, old Arum say "Well this fight did 200 billion PPV's and we are all very happy". He will then walk away whilst his trousers fall down from the weight of all the pieces of gold in his pocket.

Having said that though, we were all critical of this fight being made. Sure, most of us wanted Mosley to put Manny through his paces, but ultimately the fight was a massive stinkfest. There was little demand after Mosley's recent run of form, it was cynical matchmaking at its best.

So financially speaking it was probably a success, but in terms of Manny's rep and boxing enjoyment it was pile of crap.

What do you guys think, success or a manipulative bore?

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To be honest it's fight's like this which makes me wonder for the future of Boxing. Mosley was schooled by Mayweather, yet that performance was good enough to earn him at shot at Manny. They need to call time on the grandads farewell tour and Mayweather and Manny need to stop fighting each other opponents. I suppose Mayweather will fight Margarito or Cotto next.

I think it's time to give the younger guys a shot, maybe Vyacheslav Senchenko or Kell Brook, Amir Khan, Maidana, Tim Bradley maybe they will all get outclassed but in my opinion they will come to the ring more hungrier than Mosely and have more of chance of winning. I get the feeling that Mosley didn't even want to win.

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Originally Posted by Dropanuke

Manny was dogshit!
Mayweather would of stoppedmanny

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Ok Roger.....

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Originally Posted by Snakey

Not the only flogging Mosley took today, hes also taking one twitter apparently. Everyone disappointed in his performance and saying he robbed them of their money...which I dont really disagree with. All we asked was that he try, he didnt even look like he wanted to win.

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Yeah, Mosley is to blame for not fighting. But at the same time Pac, Roach and Arum deserve to roast in the fiery cauldrons of hell for once again making a fight with someone who hasn't really earned it. The evidence was there for us all to see, but they made the fight regardless. Arum still regards this fight as a success, hopefully he will expire soon.

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I disagree. He looked like he wanted to win before he go dropped, his head was clear but check out his legs. He was wary of that straight hand and fair enough, he could have done more but what he should stand there and look to get stopped because armchair warriors didn't see blood. Tough shit.

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Not the only flogging Mosley took today, hes also taking one twitter apparently. Everyone disappointed in his performance and saying he robbed them of their money...which I dont really disagree with. All we asked was that he try, he didnt even look like he wanted to win.

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Yeah, Mosley is to blame for not fighting. But at the same time Pac, Roach and Arum deserve to roast in the fiery cauldrons of hell for once again making a fight with someone who hasn't really earned it. The evidence was there for us all to see, but they made the fight regardless. Arum still regards this fight as a success, hopefully he will expire soon.

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I disagree. He looked like he wanted to win before he go dropped, his head was clear but check out his legs. He was wary of that straight hand and fair enough, he could have done more but what he should stand there and look to get stopped because armchair warriors didn't see blood. Tough shit.

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Yeah I agree, he looked game until he got dropped. It hasnt happened in such a long time, mentally the fight finished for him as soon as he hit the canvas. I just would of liked him to throw more coz I honestly believe he could of done damage, he could of still done his moving just throw a left hook occasionally or a right hand.

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Not the only flogging Mosley took today, hes also taking one twitter apparently. Everyone disappointed in his performance and saying he robbed them of their money...which I dont really disagree with. All we asked was that he try, he didnt even look like he wanted to win.

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Yeah, Mosley is to blame for not fighting. But at the same time Pac, Roach and Arum deserve to roast in the fiery cauldrons of hell for once again making a fight with someone who hasn't really earned it. The evidence was there for us all to see, but they made the fight regardless. Arum still regards this fight as a success, hopefully he will expire soon.

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I disagree. He looked like he wanted to win before he go dropped, his head was clear but check out his legs. He was wary of that straight hand and fair enough, he could have done more but what he should stand there and look to get stopped because armchair warriors didn't see blood. Tough shit.

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Missy will doubtless be pleased to know that I agree with her. A lot of you are aounding like Romans talking about how you wanted more gorings and violent deaths.

If you can force a fighter of the caliber of Mosley into a defensive shell then you generally have to be one hell of a fighter.

The fact that nobody so far has been able or willing to engage with Manny since moving up to these higher weights demonstrates just what a force he is.

I do hope we will get to see the Mayweather fight, but so far Floyd has not looked like he wants it.

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Not the only flogging Mosley took today, hes also taking one twitter apparently. Everyone disappointed in his performance and saying he robbed them of their money...which I dont really disagree with. All we asked was that he try, he didnt even look like he wanted to win.

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Yeah, Mosley is to blame for not fighting. But at the same time Pac, Roach and Arum deserve to roast in the fiery cauldrons of hell for once again making a fight with someone who hasn't really earned it. The evidence was there for us all to see, but they made the fight regardless. Arum still regards this fight as a success, hopefully he will expire soon.

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I disagree. He looked like he wanted to win before he go dropped, his head was clear but check out his legs. He was wary of that straight hand and fair enough, he could have done more but what he should stand there and look to get stopped because armchair warriors didn't see blood. Tough shit.

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Missy will doubtless be pleased to know that I agree with her. A lot of you are aounding like Romans talking about how you wanted more gorings and violent deaths.

If you can force a fighter of the caliber of Mosley into a defensive shell then you generally have to be one hell of a fighter.

The fact that nobody so far has been able or willing to engage with Manny since moving up to these higher weights demonstrates just what a force he is.

I do hope we will get to see the Mayweather fight, but so far Floyd has not looked like he wants it.

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See one of my earlier posts. Manny Pac is without a doubt the new tyson, guys have already lost mentally before they get in the ring. I think PBF could be his Buster Douglas though.

First 4 rounds were great but I found myself getting bored for the rest of it.

mayweather already forced mosely into a defensive shell in his fight..manny just followed the blueprint like he did with hatton. when asked whether manny wants floyd..its the same answer time and time again "speak to bob arum"!
bottom line is that manny had the option to make some noise about floyd in postfight but yet again he knows he would be happy to finish his career without fighting a true slick fighter in their prime.

de la hoya - floyds leftovers, weight drained and past it
hatton - floyds leftovers and past it
cotto - catchweight, damaged goods after margocheato
clotty - picking up cheque
margarcheato - this guy cheated and should have been banned indefinatly, damaged goods.
mosely - floyds leftovers, and past it.

The only win that surprised me was cotto and manny did very well..at this catchweight. manny has great speed and great power but he knows what he needs to do to go down as a true legend.

floyd mayweather needs to grow some balls and make this fight happen in 2012 because being undefeated means nothing if you dont keep proving yourself.

I literally fell asleep. But was happy to know that shane didnt get his brains beat in. Glad I streamed it instead of buying it.

The fight went as expected, it was a shut out. Pacman either fights Floyd or retires IMO, all other match ups are a waste of time for fans.

complete crap of a fight, and proved nothing else, the stars of the show were Vazquez Jr and Arce, Arce being the one who really shined last night

Shane was prepared but was surprised by Manny's speed and power.

We can argue over who would win Paquiao/Mayweather. I love Pacquiao but understand it could go either way. One thing we can't argue over is why this fight hasn't happened. Look at the two fighters, their approach and their character, and try to make an argument that Floyd is not the problem. Even Mayweather's most ardent fans, some being my good friends, have to admit Mayweather is a spineless, gutless, egomaniac that hasn't fought in years and that he will only fight Manny if he sees enough flaws and slippage. Manny didn't look his best and we all know that is the only reason this fight could possibly be made.

Manny is better defensively than he once was, probably a result of Beltran, Khan, Porter, et al.

Mosley made boxing look bad....

...as Clottey had likewise did.

IMO, matching Pacquiao in his next fight, it will serve Bob Arum's best interest to get fighters who actually want to fight! Sadly we are given hint that even a Pac-PBF fight is not a guaranteed exciting fight. If you get somebody against Pac who is not willing to man up atop the ring, then surely boxing fans are sure to be in for a huge letdown.

......."makin' brothers look bad"-- Michael Irvin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjvQALKR_1w

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Originally Posted by Pavlik

PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me;D

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I agree. Shane nearly dropped Floyd. PAC drops Shane. Not too hard to connect the dots. Shane compete with Floyd. He turned and ran and grabbed and held and went into a defensive shell because he didn't want to get knocked out by PAC. Unfortunately, a PAC-Floyd fight would go pretty much the same way. Floyd tastes the canvas, then gets on his bicycle. Behind several rounds, he goes into survival mode, while PAC still throws leather. PAC gets frustrated because Floyd bends at the waist, tries to grab him around the legs, turns his back, hits on the break. Then, afterwards, when it's a unanimous decision, Floyd scowls as if he's been robbed. Then Floyd nut huggers can put down their testicular pacifiers.

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Originally Posted by Pavlik

PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me;D

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I agree. Shane nearly dropped Floyd. PAC drops Shane. Not too hard to connect the dots. Shane compete with Floyd. He turned and ran and grabbed and held and went into a defensive shell because he didn't want to get knocked out by PAC. Unfortunately, a PAC-Floyd fight would go pretty much the same way. Floyd tastes the canvas, then gets on his bicycle. Behind several rounds, he goes into survival mode, while PAC still throws leather. PAC gets frustrated because Floyd bends at the waist, tries to grab him around the legs, turns his back, hits on the break. Then, afterwards, when it's a unanimous decision, Floyd scowls as if he's been robbed. Then Floyd nut huggers can put down their testicular pacifiers.

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Floyd beat Mosley in Shane's first fight since he destroyed Tony, while Pacquiao picked him up after the loss to Mayweather and the lackluster draw against Sergio Mora :-X, i wonder who took the fight when Mosley's stock was higher...

it was a crap performance last night, and let's not try and change history both guys (Mayweather and Manny) probably could have stopped Shane but for whatever reason eased up on him in the last few rounds, Mayweather walked him down from the second half of the 2nd round onwards, neither guy outdid the other so stop trying to clutch at straws and give some fake edge to Manny who has now had two borefests in his last 3 fights

I don't know how anyone (outside of massive Pac nuthuggers) could call this a success.

It was a dumb fight to begin with, given Mosley's past two fights he had absolutely no reason to be in the ring with Pac, and the only way Pac could salvage some kind of moral victory would have been to completely destroy Mosley and be the first one to knock him out.

Awful fight.

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PAC dropping Shane and hurting him more than PBF is a success for me.
Anyways any PAC fight that PAC wins is a success for me;D

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I agree. Shane nearly dropped Floyd. PAC drops Shane. Not too hard to connect the dots. Shane compete with Floyd. He turned and ran and grabbed and held and went into a defensive shell because he didn't want to get knocked out by PAC. Unfortunately, a PAC-Floyd fight would go pretty much the same way. Floyd tastes the canvas, then gets on his bicycle. Behind several rounds, he goes into survival mode, while PAC still throws leather. PAC gets frustrated because Floyd bends at the waist, tries to grab him around the legs, turns his back, hits on the break. Then, afterwards, when it's a unanimous decision, Floyd scowls as if he's been robbed. Then Floyd nut huggers can put down their testicular pacifiers.

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Floyd beat Mosley in Shane's first fight since he destroyed Tony, while Pacquiao picked him up after the loss to Mayweather and the lackluster draw against Sergio Mora :-X, i wonder who took the fight when Mosley's stock was higher...

it was a crap performance last night, and let's not try and change history both guys (Mayweather and Manny) probably could have stopped Shane but for whatever reason eased up on him in the last few rounds, Mayweather walked him down from the second half of the 2nd round onwards, neither guy outdid the other so stop trying to clutch at straws and give some fake edge to Manny who has now had two borefests in his last 3 fights

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Crap performance in which Manny drops Shane and has Shane calling him the best pound for pound fighter with the context of having already fought Mayweather. If we talk about borefests, feather-fisted, grab and hold Mayweather is the pound-for-pound king. These "fake edges" that you refer to is why Mayweather is crapping in his pants, making excuses, and won't fight him. Once Manny knocks off the "O" from Mayweather's record, he has little else to cling to except his money and all of his previous boring fights.

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I don't know how anyone (outside of massive Pac nuthuggers) could call this a success.

It was a dumb fight to begin with, given Mosley's past two fights he had absolutely no reason to be in the ring with Pac, and the only way Pac could salvage some kind of moral victory would have been to completely destroy Mosley and be the first one to knock him out.

Awful fight.

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He completely destroyed Mosley, to the point that Mosley turned and ran like a scared little Mayweather and got knocked flat on his butt. After this, your boy Mayweather isn't going to fight Manny. He took a chance on the over-the-hill Mosley and nearly got knocked on his butt. He isn't going to take that risk against Manny.

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Originally Posted by Snakey

Seriously, I think they could of taken mosley out of the fight in the 6th round, ran into the back and found Arce and he would of come out and made a better fight against pac.

It sucked in other words. But we all knew it would, it was just that last bit of hope that mosley had something left. Its why people keep paying to watch roy jones...just hoping to see 1 ounce of what he used to be.

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Ain't that the goddamn truth, act least Arce wouldn't have been in there to play grabass. Mosley's "plan" seemed to be to make friends with Pacquiao, survive the 12 rounds, and pick up another big paycheck. Please just go away now Shane, you've worn out your welcome.

in my mind there is a couple tinges that i think made the fight suck

From Mosely

He suffers the same thing ll old fighters suffer from, the diminish more mentally then they do physically, he just could not pull the trigger

Plus i think the headbutt followed by the knockdown, brought bah demons form the forrest fight and he jumped onhis bicycle

From manny

he seemed to have an off night, most fighters have an off night because the guy there fighting makes it so, this was not the case, they said manny was superstitious (has to goin the same car, same people etc etc,) i think that fender messed him a lil if u ask me, he didn't look as relaxed as he normally is

Plus he mentioned his legs, dunno what thats about, hope he is not getting old, but he said he suffered the same problem during marquez. Maybe we were witnessing manny without juice? jk..

This is all sad really because i picked shane to win, and honestly i am very disappointed, i feel he should have fought for greatness, he fought for a check, now outta of spite i am gonna go sleep with his girl ;D

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I don't know how anyone (outside of massive Pac nuthuggers) could call this a success.

It was a dumb fight to begin with, given Mosley's past two fights he had absolutely no reason to be in the ring with Pac, and the only way Pac could salvage some kind of moral victory would have been to completely destroy Mosley and be the first one to knock him out.

Awful fight.

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Seriously, what did anyone really expect, Mosley looked like shit against Mayweather and Mora, so why would anyone believe he'd look any better against Pacquiao?